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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 16:55, 6 April 2008.

The Orange Box
Self-nomination: The article passed through good article status recently, I put it through a quick automated peer review for last minute checks and I now believe its worth a shot at featured status. -- Sabre (talk) 20:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Restarted by Raul, old nom. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 03:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * 1st sentence is in present and past tense
 * "major characters move away from City 17" - wlink the city the first time you mention it, rather than here Fixed --Gazimoff (talk) 11:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * "Gabe Newell explained, "I think..." - you can just refer to him by surname
 * "the Xbox 360 version.[54] ↑" - random arrow lying around? Fixed --Gazimoff (talk) 11:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you move the soundtrack cover art up a bit so it doesn't overlap with the reflist?
 * Not really. however there is a show/hide toggle for the track listing. If the track listing is shown, the soundtrack cover doesn't collide with the reflist. --Gazimoff (talk) 11:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I added a float clear (-) at the end of the section - Ref section won't start until the picture is done, so this prevents the overlap.
 * Why is overlap a problem? It's one single picture. If there's one thing I hate its big white spaces, like that. It makes the presentation of the article absolutely horrible. -- Sabre (talk) 13:55, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * There's nothing stated in the style guideline, but if there was no clear there before the references, then when this is printed to standard paper form (as opposed to a widescreen monitor), the references would be all bunched up, making a ton more whitespace below the picture to the right of the reference list. Having whitespace before the references to allow the refs to be given as wide a space to print at minimal cost of white space in the preceeding section.  If we had something for "See Also" which would go before refs, that would help cut out some of that white space (the clear trick going after anything in See Also).  However, again, that's presently a matter of opinion, and trivial to add or remove relative to other issues). --M ASEM  14:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Overall, the prose is really good. Not much I could see, anyway. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 03:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Comment - Article appears to satisfy criteria 1b really well! Please add a little more wikilinking to terms such as Xbox 360, at least once every couple of paragraphs (but I was looking at the overview section particularly in making this note). I think prose is generally well written mostly, but some parts I think don't maintain the professional standard. I'm sure a better word can be used instead of 'tying'! Ncmvocalist (talk) 07:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose a few issues I mentioned in the previous nom have yet to be addressed.--Otterathome (talk) 11:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you bring through what you still see as outstanding? I know I replied to a few of your points requesting some clarification here and there, so it would be great to get your thoughts. --Gazimoff (talk) 11:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Steam forum source and clan site to start with. See previous nom for details.--Otterathome (talk) 11:30, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I have this link from IMDB about Kelly Bailey and this link from MobyGames about Mike Morasky. They've both been used as reliable sources before in other articles but these links are literally one line mentions. If you're happy, I'll include these, otherwise I'll suggest we just change it to Valve Employees (which is what the CD booklet says). What are your thoughts here? --Gazimoff (talk) 12:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have removed the composer details and replaced with "Valave employees", as this is what the CD inlay states. --Gazimoff (talk) 10:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as the note on Regional Differences (Team Fortress 2) citing a clan site, it doesn't look like any of the major game news outlets picked up on this, so I've removed the content for now. If we can find sources it can always be readded at a later date. --Gazimoff (talk) 12:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * http://www.tfportal.de/news_archive.php?showyear=2007&showmonth=9.--Otterathome (talk) 15:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Tfportal.de is a German Team Fortress fansite. I'd feel nervous about citing it as a reliable source in this case.--Gazimoff (talk) 23:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Sorry, why was this restarted? · AndonicO  Hail!  12:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - I believe all outstanding issues have now been dealt with as requested. Any more for any more? If not, I think we can wrap this one up. --Gazimoff (talk) 10:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
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