Wikipedia:Featured article removal candidates/Windows XP

Windows XP

 * Previous nomination at Featured article removal candidates/Windows XP/archive1.


 * Article is still a Featured article.

This article is clearly very incomplete. Among the biggest issues discussed in developer circles is the new TCP/IP connection limit per application. This is mentioned no-where in the article. I want to know (1) what the limit is, (2) why the limit is there and why Windows 2000 doesn't have it, (3) what a user can do about it, including whether Windows Vista will have the limit, and (4) what its impact was, i.e. the main problems it caused in existing and future applications. &mdash; I'm sure there are other, perhaps even greater controversies that I don't know about; as long as these are missing from the article, it must not be featured. &mdash; Timwi 18:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment - It appears the article was nominated for removal before - Windows XP removal candidate discussion. Looking at the thread, I find a vast majority of remove votes, and yet the article was kept, supposedly for lack of consensus. That's odd and needs to be re-examined. &mdash; Timwi 18:38, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * A "vast majority"? I make it 7 for "remove" and 7 for "keep". -- ALoan (Talk) 21:43, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. I disagree that the article is "very incomplete" - the only omission you mention is "the new TCP/IP connection limit per application", and that seems neither very crucial to the article nor very difficult to add if you wanted. "I'm sure there are other, perhaps even greater controversies that I don't know about" - this is hardly a reason to criticize an article. "It appears the article was nominated for removal before" - and the decision was to keep the article, and the article has been improved since then. Your nomination to remove the FA status of this article seems somewhat groundless. - Brian Kendig 18:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I've resolved the only actionable part of the original complaint by adding this text to the article: In an effort to slow down the rate at which malicious programs can spread to uninfected computers, Service Pack 2 lowered the limit on outgoing TCP/IP connection attempts from 65,535 to 10. There can be no more than this many incomplete outgoing connections being attempted at any one time; additional connection attempts will be queued. This limit can adversely affect legitimate software such as peer-to-peer applications. The "tcpip.sys" system file can be edited to raise the limit to its former value.  - Brian Kendig 19:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment. The nominator should have given this article sufficient time to address the issues. From what I see, it was put up for FARC before the issue was raised on the talk page. The nominator also put out-dated link to the FARC. I will give my review once sufficent time has elapsed and the article has had sufficient time to correct itself as I find it premature to discuss it now. I would suggest the editors to address the concerns raised by the nominator ASAP. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 19:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Invalid nomination —No notice was given on the talk page. This nomination should be removed so that the prescribed process can be pursued. Tony 11:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Invalid nomination. The article definitely needs some touch-up work (Peer review could be a way to go here), but nominating an article for FA removal on the basis that it's missing an esoteric piece of information is in contravention of What is a featured article?'s fifth attribute: "... tightly focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail."  Warrens 21:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep I dislike Microsoft, & I only use Winders because my job requires it (I'm contracting at that well-known CPU manufacturer), but I find it hard to see just how this article could be improved upon -- unless Microsoft is willing to allow its developers to discuss operating system theory. Yes, the "TCP/IP connection limit" issue should be mentioned, but I honestly can't think of any other issues unique to this OS that has been omitted. (Although I have long suspected that it's called "XP" because extreme programming, aka XP, was a hot new fad at the time this version of Windows was begin developed -- & only later did someone outside of marketing actually to a hard look at what "XP" meant.) -- llywrch 01:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep This article is very good - I'd like to see the TCP/IP stack stuff as well but (It is in there now... awesome!) basically every general point about XP is covered very well in this article and subarticles. More importantly it is free of the POV and other issues that often plague these types of articles. It is as it always was T 09:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I am taking down this nomination as invalid: beyond the issue which has already been addressed, the nomination is not actionable (it is based on "perhaps even greater controversies that I don't know about") and the nominator did not allow a chance for the issues to be discussed on the article's Talk page before nominating this article. - Brian Kendig 17:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)