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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 25 August 2018 (UTC).

FIFA World Cup top goalscorers

 * Nominator(s): Nergaal (talk) 15:14, 21 May 2018 (UTC); -- Cheetah  (talk)  01:20, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

This list should be topical and it would be nice to have it polished up by the time the next tournament starts. I think it should be a fine FL but if you think otherwise feel free to leave any feedback or take a stab at the list. Thanks! Nergaal (talk) 15:14, 21 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The title should be List of FIFA World Cup top goalscorers like List of FIFA World Cup goalscorers and most other lists
 * I personally dislike having "List of X" if just "X" works fine. I prefer tighter titles. Nergaal (talk) 09:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd think most lists could work with "X", but we really ought to go with consistency and WP:LISTNAME; I'd guess most the plural form sounds odd to most since so few articles do it that way.
 * I personally prefer without "List of" simply because it works well without it. If other reviewers think otherwise I'd be fine with moving it. Nergaal (talk) 12:04, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Why does the table in the lead say >50, ≈100, etc? Shouldn't be too difficult to have an exact number.
 * There are exact numbers, but some sources imply there are say 55 footballers, other say 54. Since under 5 goals FIFA does not seem to have a good official record, it's not very clear which source is accurate.  For that, and since those numbers tend to change quite a bit every world cup, I thought it's an overly detailed number to give versus how reliable it is. Nergaal (talk) 09:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That's fine then, though is List of FIFA World Cup goalscorers validate one of those sources, at least for the 4 goals?
 * There is a single ref that seem to give the exact number for 4 and I think it's precise enough to be reliable. Initially the number for 4 was precise, but just for the sake of consistency with the other sub-5 (not listed in this table) I removed it. I'll plug it back in. Nergaal (talk) 12:04, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * "In total, 60 footballers came from UEFA (Europe), 26 from CONMEBOL (South America), and only 4 players came from elsewhere:" is not parallel.
 * Good catch
 * The second "came" should be removed to be fully parallel since it was left out in the second part.
 * Changed. Nergaal (talk) 12:09, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * "more goals at all the games played at the World Cup as Stábile" -> "thank Stabile"
 * fixed


 * "in 1970, and broke" no comma necessary.
 * fixed


 * "and 1970, and Jürgen", same, unless you put a comma before "with"
 * fixed


 * "A total of" is extraneous.
 * Agree, but I dislike starting sentences with numbers, seems weird to me. Any idea how not to start with a number and not use extraneous words? Nergaal (talk) 09:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it sounds perfectly fine just to spell the number out but you could do "Across the 20 tournaments, 29 different footballers..." Note 6 also uses it midsentence, especially unnecessary with "overall" right afterward. Note 7 says "Seven different players", but I don't think seven of the same players is possible. Reywas92Talk 18:21, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Switched it. Nergaal (talk) 12:09, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * "Except for 2010, all the top goalscorers won the Golden Boot." 2010 is a year, not a goalscorer. Reywas92Talk 18:22, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Changed it. Nergaal (talk) 09:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all the feedback. I fixed most of them and left some replies to the others; let me know what you think. Nergaal (talk) 09:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Article is getting updated significantly with the 64 matches occurring right now. I was hoping to have this done before, but since it didn't get much feedback, maybe suspend it? Nergaal (talk) 22:13, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support This list is great.--Lirim &#124; T 22:15, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - according to the description on the image file, the picture alleged to be of Stabile is not in fact him at all - can you clarify? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:38, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I removed that picture altogether now. It did look a bit too high res to me when I put it, so it being a reenactment makes sense. Nergaal (talk) 19:06, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


 * ^^ -- Pres N  17:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

has indicated that they have retired from the project, so unless this nomination is adopted within the next few days, I'll archive it. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:47, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note, Nergaal has now been indef blocked. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:37, 7 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Adopted I am taking over this nomination, so please, , and come and update your comments. Thanks!-- Cheetah   (talk)  01:20, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Not all of my comments were addressed so you'll need to go through those and fix them too. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:25, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I found one comment that was not addressed, but Nergaal fixed it, just did not mention it here. Cheetah  (talk)  16:30, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Support. List loooks great. TompaDompa (talk) 10:24, 14 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Support – All of my issues have been addressed and I'm confident the list meets FL standards. If it isn't promoted in the next couple of days, I'll do a source review as you requested. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 00:14, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I've become very busy lately and it looks unlikely that I'll be able to review the sources in detail. Perhaps Pres will be willing to do the honors. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 20:01, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

(No prose review carried out.) Harrias  talk 19:36, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comments from Harrias  talk
 * In the Top goalscorers for each tournament table, could we include the country name in the 'World Cup' column. Not everyone is familiar with every country by flag, and it contravenes MOS:FLAG.
 * All images need alt text.
 * Ref #1 uses "fifa.com and a DD Month YYYY retrieval date, unlike any other source; please change for consistency.
 * Author names also need to be made consistent. Ref #5 uses "Owsianski, Jaroslaw", #35 "Glanville, Brian", #122 "Smyth, Rob", #126 "Nihal Kolur", #127 "Danny Wittenberg". There might be others. Make them all the same, one way or the other.
 * Support Harrias  talk 06:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments. I've made the necessary changes.-- Cheetah  (talk)  20:49, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoting. -- Pres N  15:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)


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