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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:36, 12 April 2020 (UTC).

List of Cardiff City F.C. records and statistics

 * Nominator(s): Kosack (talk) 20:40, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

One of the Cardiff lists I haven't got around to until now finally being brought to FLC. I've based the format on the other promoted lists of club records and believe it's up to the same standard. I look forward to any comments. Kosack (talk) 20:40, 17 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:27, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * Maybe mention the number of Phil Dwyer's appearances in the second paragraph of the lead; the other two players have theirs included . - Done
 * I'd recommend applying an upright value to the lead image, possibly . - Done
 * "The club won its first trophy under the guise by winning the Bevan Shield in 1905." Shouldn't it be "...under the guise of winning..."? Otherwise it sounds like "guise" means "name".
 * The guise was meant to signify that the trophy was won under the name of the club's original name of Riverside. If that's not clear, I'm happy to amend. Kosack (talk) 07:30, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * "The last honour won by the club was the Championship title during the 2012–13 season." Maybe make it "The most recent honour..." since they haven't finished playing. (Optional suggestion) - Done
 * Under the "League titles" and "Cups" headings, each win or runners-up is followed by a colon and an en dash before the years (i.e. "Champions: – 1912–1913"). I don't think both punctuation marks are necessary; just a colon (i.e. "Champions: 1912–1913") would be my preference. - Done
 * Also, the first Southern Football League's championship years can be combined "1912–13" as are the subsequent two-year ranges. - Done
 * I'd link the first instance of "Cwmparc". Even though there seems to be no team article, the the unusual spelling stopped this American reader in his tracks wondering if the was a misspelling or an un-capitalized acronym. (Optional suggestion) - Done
 * There's a stray period at the end of "Most goals conceded in one season: 105, Third Division South, 1933–34." - Done
 * Standardize the use of either "vs." or "vs" as the use varies throughout. - Done
 * If this is a list of team records, I'm not sure the ground attendance set between the Wales and England national teams should be included.
 * This has crossed my mind, but the ground was owned by the club and is regularly listed on the club's official records pages so I did include it. Kosack (talk) 08:06, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The tables are missing row and column scope for accessibility. See MOS:DTAB. - Done
 * sould be used instead of  to indicate number in four tables. See: MOS:HASH. - Done
 * Under "Longest run of consecutive league appearances", I'd replace "position" with number as in my previous bullet point and change "Years" to "Dates" since months are also included. - Done
 * Under "All time leading goalscorers", adjust the column width of "Years" to keep it from wrapping the text.
 * I'm editing on mobile so the layout is a little different. I've adjusted the column size but it may need checking on a desktop. Kosack (talk) 08:06, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * In the "Transfers" tables, you'll need to apply sortkeys to each player and club; they currently sort by the name of the country in.
 * I've removed the player flags completely, I don't think they have any baring on the transfer records. Kosack (talk) 08:06, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The "Notes" column heading should probably be changed to "Reference" or - Done
 * References 10 and 36 are dead, but you can add the archived version (or the current correct location). - Done
 * All else looks fine. NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:53, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review, I've addressed all of the points above. Let me know what you think. Kosack (talk) 08:06, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Everything above looks fine, but I did notice a few more things:
 * The transfers tables still need sort keys on the clubs as they currently sort by the flag rather than club name.
 * Meant to take those out too for the same reason as above. They're gone now. Kosack (talk) 17:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Regarding my comment on resizing columns to avoid wrapping, it might be best to eliminate forced width altogether and go with their default sizes.
 * Nice idea, works much better now!. Kosack (talk) 17:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * There is some inconsistency with text alignment across tables—one has every column centered, while others mix centered and left aligned. Decide on a consistent style and apply to all tables.
 * I was basing that style off the other promoted records and statistics page, all of which have the names left aligned like List of Birmingham City F.C. records and statistics. Kosack (talk) 17:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It's looking nice. NatureBoyMD (talk) 16:20, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Added my comments above. Kosack (talk) 17:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Support That works for me. Well done. NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:14, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Comments from Harrias
Overall, a good solid piece of work, well done. Harrias talk 16:30, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Silly, nit-picky point, but the title is called "List of Cardiff City F.C. records and statistics", but the article starts "Cardiff City is a Welsh professional association football club.." Let's be consistent, and make that "Cardiff City F.C. is a Welsh professional association football club.."
 * What was/is "the Bevan Shield"; context needs to be given.
 * No need to capitalise "(First Tier)", "(Second Tier)" etc.
 * Why isn't the Longest run of consecutive league appearances table sortable?
 * The Progressive scoring record section needs the title to make it clear that refers to goals in a single season. Somehow.
 * In the Bibliography, "Grandin, Terry (2010)" has a warning: "Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFGrandin2010." If you are not using it in any inline citations, remove the "ref=harv" parameter.
 * "Lloyd, Grahame (1999)" and "Stead, Phil (2013)" use a different citation style to the other four, make sure you are using a consistent style.
 * Ref #40 italicises "BBC Sport"; the rest don't.
 * Ref #32 needs changing to a normal citation template to give the title, and full citation details.
 * Thanks for taking a look, I've addressed all of the points above. Let me know if there is anything else. Kosack (talk) 18:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Support I've made a couple of little tweaks, and am happy to support, nice work. Harrias  talk 19:34, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * And the mandatory note that I will claim WikiCup points for this review. Harrias  talk 19:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoted. -- Pres N  18:35, 11 April 2020 (UTC)


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