Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Liverpool F.C. players

List of Liverpool F.C. players
Bit of a self-nom, but this is a stable, accurate, thorough, tidy, well-defined and verifiable list with no redlinks. It is similar to the List of Arsenal F.C. players which is featured. ArtVandelay13 17:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment Rationales for the inclusion of those with less than 100 appearances would be useful. The early players are understandable since less matches were played then, and Gary McAllister was captain when the team won a cup treble, but I only know these things because I am an avid follower of English football. Even after reading their articles, it is unclear why say, Paul Ince or Ernie Blenkinsop are included; neither won any honours with the club. Oldelpaso 19:22, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I included all club captains (of which these were two); this is now explained in the article. ArtVandelay13 12:06, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Not strictly relevant to the debate at hand, but Gary McAllister wasn't captain. KeithD 21:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Support Clear, concise, useful. Enough said. King fish erswift  11:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment - if there is a citable list of captains then it might be worth splitting off to a separate List of Liverpool F.C. captains. Also I do not see how Djibril Cisse, Luis Garcia or Xabi Alonso fit either the "100+ appearances" or the "club captain" criteria. Qwghlm 21:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I've added 'members of the current squad that are close to the total' to explain their inclusion. ArtVandelay13 13:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * In which case I will Object - adding a third, poorly defined (how close is "close"?) reason for inclusion is a fudge. I don't see any reason why current squad members should get special treatment, and in any case any reader looking for the current squad members is going to look at Liverpool_F.C. instead. Also, for players under 100 appearances but who were club captain, some sort of notation (bold, asterisk, I don't mind) should be made so it is clear to the reader why they have been included. Qwghlm 19:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, I've addressed these issues and removed a few players (Xabi Alonso, Djibril Cisse, Glen Hysén, Ernie Blenkinsop, Paul Ince and Stan Collymore). There may be a separate list of captains at a later date. ArtVandelay13 12:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, change to Support. Incidentally, I am not against including captains with less than 100 appearances, I just think all moved above the list, and a header added just above where the table is (titled "List of players" etc.). Otherwise, very nice! Daniel.Bryant 02:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Support. Criteria for inclusion is now clearer. Are there any free use pictures available for anyone in the list? Oldelpaso 10:17, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Comments - I was about to promote this, when I noticed the unusual use of Football player list end, Football player list player and {{{{tl|Football player list start}}. As far as I can see, they are only used in this list.  Why are they necessary?  Can't they just be "subst"ed?  The first column is specified as 20em, which seems far too wide - most of the box is empty anyway, and it pushes the dates onto separate lines on my screen, for example.  Secondly, might it not be a good idea to link the positions, rather than having the links in a separate key? -- ALoan (Talk) 10:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I've narrowed the column to 15 - there's still padding, but I think it's important in making the player names stand out more. It's difficult to link individual positions because not all have their own article and if, say, "IF" (Inside Forward) linked to Forward, it wouldn't clarify what IF stands for. I've linked the column header down to the key. ArtVandelay13 14:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Good catch. Superfluous use of templates should be discouraged. -- Run e Welsh | &tau;&alpha;&lambda;&kappa; 11:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, I have stripped out these templates. ArtVandelay13 14:09, 17 October 2006 (UTC)