Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Oxford United F.C. players/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 17:31, 29 October 2009.

List of Oxford United F.C. players

 * Nominator(s): Eddie6705 (talk) 13:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because i feel it is of the standard to be featured. A peer review in February was very helpful and all suggestions were implemented, (nothing much as changed since then). Any comments will be appreciated and hopefully rectified. Eddie6705 (talk) 13:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Why aren't all the Oxford United F.C. players on the list? This article should be named to List of Oxford United F.C. players with 100 or more appearances if you only include those players. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  01:02, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Per Colin's comments and Scorpion's closing comments at Featured list removal candidates/List of Arsenal F.C. players/archive1, I don't think there is a requirement for the title to explicitly reflect the inclusion criteria. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 07:35, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Agree with Struway, this is kind of like those "Tallest building" lists, where the level for inclusion is within the article. Though at the same time there are lists like the "MLB Players with 100 triples" where it's explicitly in the title. Staxringold talkcontribs 15:37, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure that's an apt comparison. You need to set a lower limit to 'tallest buildings' or you will end up with every building. If this were called List of Oxford United F.C. players with the most appearances it might compare. But the name suggests that the list should be all-inclusive. Geraldk (talk) 01:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * But what's the point of not adding all the players? --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  02:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oxford United were founded in 1893. If all of the players were added to the list (at least 800), the list would become way too big and unmanagable. Eddie6705 (talk) 12:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but you only start the list once the team becomes professional in 1949 anyway. How many players are there since 1949? A couple other minor comments:
 * In the intro to the table you say that the lists includes players with 100 appearances or an international cap. Dean Windass fits into neither of those categories.
 * Rectified
 * You have two sections titled 'footnotes'. the latter should probably be folded into the references section, which should be subdivided into general and specific references.
 * Done
 * Why are some of the players unlinked rather than red or blue linked?
 * Those that are red-linked are notable enough for an article. Those that are unlinked are not notable enough for their own articles as they only played in the Southern Football League, which isn't deemed a notable league in WP:ATHLETE for players to have an article.
 * You may want to scrub the second paragraph of the lead and see if there are any statements that need to be referenced with an in-line citation. I didn't catch any, but a second pair of eyes may help.
 * Found one which i added a citation to.
 * It may be interesting to add to the lead some additional trivia summarizing data from the table. Where do these players come from? How many are from Europe, how many from other parts of the world? etc.
 * Added a sentance about nationalities, may add more later.
 * Geraldk (talk) 12:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Changes made. As for the number of players since 1949, i am not sure of a specific numbe and will have to research that. My understanding from the Aresnal list Struway2 mentioned above and from other lists in the past was that although the title may be misrepresentitive, it dwould be too complex for all lists to state the requirements as part of the title. Eddie6705 (talk) 13:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That was impressively quick. I guess the best way to resolve this before you go do a ton of research is to ask what other similar lists do. What's the precedent? If the precedent is the 100 appearance mark, Im happy to go along. Geraldk (talk) 13:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * (Outdent) Of the 11 List of xxxx F.C. players that are FL, 7 use the 100 and more appearances. Two of the four that don't are Australian league teams who were formed in 2004 and such can easily incldse all players. Eddie6705 (talk) 13:45, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's good enough precedent for me. I won't worry about it then. Noticed though, that not all of the current player names are bolded. Geraldk (talk) 15:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed. They were added recently and i must have missed them.

Eddie6705 (talk) 15:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Support - all of my concerns are now addressed. Geraldk (talk) 16:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Please add images of the players at the side of the list. (not all just the best images of the best players we have)--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 09:41, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Diaa im working on that now. Eddie6705 (talk) 12:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Comment According to the link checker, there is one dead link. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:34, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have replaced the dead link. Eddie6705 (talk) 06:57, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment image of Big Ron has no alt text -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:41, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have added alt text, although as i am not really familiar with it, i hope it is alright. Are there are other points you need looking at? Eddie6705 (talk) 14:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll take a gander later. The alt text issue just happened to jump out at me..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:02, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Support – List appears to meet FL criteria now. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:25, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Query - you state that "Ron Atkinson made 560 appearances, including 125 matches in the Southern League while Oxford were playing as amateurs", yet his career started in 1959 and elsewhere you state that the club turned professional in 1949, so there is a contradiction there.......... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:53, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahh, i haven't explained it like i thought it in my head :S Basically i'm trying to get across that Shuker played his legue games in the league, whereas Atkinson played some in the southern league, although i'm struggling to put that into words. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddie6705 (talk 15:53, 19 October 2009
 * Now the article says that Oxford turned pro in both 1949 and 1962! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:30, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed Eddie6705 (talk) 23:35, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Support – My comments were all addressed and the list seems to meet FL standards now.  Giants2008  ( 17–14 ) 01:23, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Support - think everything looks OK now -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:03, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


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