Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of cricketers who have carried the bat in international cricket/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Crisco 1492 12:53, 26 March 2015.

List of cricketers who have carried the bat in international cricket

 * Nominator(s): &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 16:43, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

An interesting list. Given that we have only 10 cricketers performing this "feat" outside of Test cricket, I thought it's best to have all the three combined. Look forward to comments and suggestions. &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 16:43, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Support – Only two queries:
 * You might center the references in the table as they look much better than being on left.
 * I don't think that's a requirement. All the entries are aligned to the left and this one is no different. &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 07:02, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * How about using Tooltip for more clarification for Ref? -- FrankBoy (Buzz) 21:27, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Done &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 07:02, 25 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Initial quick comments from Harrias talk
 * "Lords Cricket Ground" should be "Lord's Cricket Ground".
 * I would prefer the "Name" column left aligned, but that is personal preference.
 * The fixed column widths seem wrong, South Africa is across two lines on my screen when the home team.
 * The runs column does not sort at all correctly for me, it needs a sortkey.
 * The date is wrong for Test #6.
 * Merge the last paragraph of the lead, which is only one sentence, into the previous paragraph. Harrias talk 17:58, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Fixed all &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:47, 4 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The first four sentences of the second paragraph are somewhat repetitive: "South African Bernard Tancred... when he made...", "England's Bobby Abel... when he made...", "Bill Woodfull of Australia... when he made...", "Australian Bill Brown... he made..."
 * Made some copy-edits &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:37, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * "Australia has performed this feat more than any other country.." I think this should be "Australian players have..."
 * Done as suggested &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:37, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * For some reason the column widths for the T20I table display differently than the two above, though it looks like they should all line up?
 * I don't have a clue here. What do you suggest? &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:37, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've had a bit of a play around with the column widths, and made the T20I table sortable (even though it only has one entry) and they now all line up fine on my screen. How does it look to you? Harrias talk 15:43, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Add "Inn." to the Key.
 * Done &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:37, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it would be worth adding a note for each instance of not all 10 wickets being taken as to why that was.
 * Done &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:37, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The South African flags need time correcting: prior to 31 May 1910, South Africa did not have a unified flag, so it probably isn't appropriate to use one at all. From 31 May 1928 you can use undefined, and from 27 April 1994 the current one. Harrias talk 16:24, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Done &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:37, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've tidied these up a little bit. Harrias talk 15:43, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Quick drive-by comment......
 * Is it worth putting something in to the effect that carrying the bat is far less likely to happen in ODIs and (especially) T20Is because it's much less likely that a team will lose all twn wickets.........? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:48, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I tried finding a source for this. But sadly couldn't find any. &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 10:11, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Support. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:15, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Comments
 * I think you should incorporate "after all 10 wickets have fallen" into the first sentence. Because a limited-overs innings does indeed "end" at the end of 20/50 overs.
 * Done &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:17, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you should mention that Bernard Tancred's 26* remains the lowest made while carrying the bat.
 * Added as a FN &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:17, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delink the cities under Venue; they aren't relevant here.
 * As long as they don't fall into WP:OLINK, I see no harm in linking them. &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:17, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * OLINK explicitly states "names of major geographic features and locations" are not usually linked, especially when "they are [not] particularly relevant to the topic of the article".—indopug (talk) 19:14, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it states only major locations. Since I've not added the names of the countries, it's worth linking the cities. &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:40, 25 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Make sure the widths of the columns of all three tables are the same so it looks orderly.
 * Made sure &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:17, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Have you found sources that illustrate the implications of what happens when a batsman carries his bat? For eg, it often means he is the lone knight standing while the rest of his team have performed poorly; this is borne out by the fact that in a majority of cases the team of the batsman carrying his bat loses. It'd be great if you could squeeze a couple of lines on this in the lead.—indopug (talk) 17:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Sadly I'm not able to find any online source that elaborates the topic beyond its basic definition. Think has a collection of Wisden publications, which am sure will contain a lot of information about this. &mdash; Vensatry  (ping) 19:17, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Support (once the cities are delinked, per above) A fine, well-sourced list.—indopug (talk) 19:14, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Support. Well-written and well-sourced list, it meets the criteria.--Carioca (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Guys, requesting you to re-visit the nomination. &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:47, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


 * — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:47, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


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