Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of international goals scored by Kelly Smith/archive1


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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 30 June 2023 (UTC).

List of international goals scored by Kelly Smith

 * Nominator(s): Idiosincrático (talk) 14:34, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi all, Kelly Smith is an English footballer with 20 years with the national team. She was the top-scorer for England before Ellen white took her place. It was a simple list but some match reports for older female games were harder to come by. Its a clean and straightforward list, includes archived refs and has a simple lead. Thank you all in advance for your reviews. Cheers. Idiosincrático (talk) 14:34, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Comments

 * "in a 13−0 away thrashing" - "thrashing" is not encyclopedic language
 * "it was the team's highest winning margin before England defeated Latvia 20−0 on 30 November 2021" - this should either be a standalone sentence or the comma should be a semi-colon, also replace "before" with "until"
 * "At the 2009 Women's Euro final," => "In the 2009 Women's Euro final,"
 * "the 2−6 loss to Germany" => "the 6−2 loss to Germany"
 * "Smith enjoyed a short career with Great Britain" - she didn't really have a "career" with Great Britain, a team that only plays very occasionally
 * "The team qualified for the 2012 Olympics as hosts, she featured" - again, comma should be a semi-colon
 * "games against Brazil, Cameroon and New Zealand, including a pre-tournament match against Sweden2" - you can't have a list of games and then say "including [one that wasn't on the list]"
 * "a match which Smith did not feature" => "a match in which Smith did not feature"
 * "Scores and results list her team's goal tally first, score column indicates score after each White goal" - copy+paste error there?
 * That's it :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:54, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * All addressed, thanks again legend. Every time I read your comments about my inability to write, I try and figure out why I am the most braindead human on Earth. :) Idiosincrático (talk) 11:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't be silly, the above are all very trivial points and overall the prose was very good. There's always going to be little grammar niggles that you don't spot when you look at your own writing..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:25, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:56, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support -- Phikia (talk) 02:22, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

 * Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g.  becomes , with each header on its own line. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
 * Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. -- Pres N  23:10, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Done for all tables, cheers. Idiosincrático (talk) 02:48, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Comments from N Oneemuss

 * The article for Smith says that she won 117 caps for England, so maybe double check that?
 * I don't know if you need to link London in the lede (you don't link it in the table)
 * The sentence starting "Smith managed 116 caps" needs a semicolon after "England", not a comma
 * "exclaiming praise" seems quite strong – maybe "praising her"?
 * Maybe add who her last goal was against (Scotland)?
 * I think you should briefly explain that the Great Britain team was only created for the 2012 Olympics
 * Maybe add to the last paragraph of the lede that she did not score for Great Britain?
 * If you like you could add an interlangauge link to Sepp-Doll Stadion in the table; up to you though
 * The caption starting "Smith scored five goals against The Netherlands" also needs a semicolon, not a comma

Otherwise everything looks good to me. N Oneemuss (talk to me · see my edits · email me) 17:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Cheers I think I've addressed everything, please let me know if its okay. On the first point, The Women's Football Archive incorrectly lists her England caps as 116, missing the Denmark game from August 2001, I've made a note in the article clarifying the error, I've also left a message with the website as it is clearly incorrect. Other than that, the reference is pretty solid, coverage on the Women's game is rather poor and this ref is gold. Thank You again, please let me know if I can make anything better. Idiosincrático (talk) 08:27, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Happy to support N Oneemuss (talk to me · see my edits · email me) 09:23, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoting. -- Pres N  00:02, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


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