Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/A Map of Old El Paso

A Map of Old El Paso
Voting period ends on 13 Jan 2015  at 11:37:21 (UTC)
 * Reason:This is a highly detailed map of El Paso, TX, dated 1886, that shows the city as it appeared after the US civil war but before the turn of the century - in short, back when the west really was wild. In particular, the map shows the initial area of concentration for the settlement of El Paso, which has since grown to encompass the entire area shown in this map and then some. It is also interesting to note the name of the streets shown vis-a-vis the time period given: despite the fact that El Paso borders Mexico, all the street names reflect the Anglo-American settlers as opposed to the Southwestern and south of the border names now widely used in the city.
 * Articles in which this image appears:El Paso, Texas, El Paso–Juárez, History of El Paso, Texas
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Maps
 * Creator:Augustus Koch


 * Support as nominator – TomStar81 (Talk) 11:37, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose - There's a big yellow stain on this. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thats the mark of the Big Yellow Taxi (and out here they may as well charge the people $1.50 to the see the trees) :)) TomStar81 (Talk) 14:48, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Crisco 1492. The yellow tint covers much of the image. Definitely not FP quality -- mcshadypl T C  23:24, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * COMMENT: Aside from the stain, is there any other issue with the image? I'm only asking because I suspect that the image could be digitally cleaned up to remove the stain, but I don't want to put this back in circulation for FP consideration in there are going to be additional objections over unmentioned problems here and now, so please do point out any additional issues. TomStar81 (Talk) 01:46, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The crop seems tighter than it would have been originally, which has generally had a problem in the past... but yeah, the yellow stain is my biggest objection. It'd be a difficult clean up job, though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:31, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Frankly, I'd oppose it on crop alone. In its current state, it would be impossible to print it in such a way that it could be used in the same way the original map was, because the edges have been lost left, right, and top. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:02, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * May I ask how you can tell that it's cropped enough to be unusable? The evidence of a dark line signifying the edge of the picture along at least half of each virtical edge would indicate to me that it isn't cropped, at least not enough to say the map would be impossible that it could be used in same way as the original map... To me, it's missing maybe a millimetre or two off half the edges - I certainly wouldn't oppose for that reason... But I am interested in hearing other opinions... gaz hiley  14:58, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The layout of these sorts of maps is generally roughly similar to File:Thaddeus M. Fowler - New Kensington, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania 1896.jpg - A border all around, not perfectly even but more handdrawn. If you were printing a copy of this map, that's more or less what you'd be looking to reproduce - but that's impossible: Not only is the borders missing, but there's also not enough paper that matches the rest of the image.
 * You could make a postcard of this, but as a reproduction of the original, a print of this would be hideous. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation... I appreciate the reply... gaz hiley  09:25, 3 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose as per Crisco 1492 -DUCK404 a (talk) 00:50, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 13:34, 13 January 2015 (UTC)