Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Check signed by Susan B. Anthony and other suffragists

Check signed by Susan B. Anthony and other suffragists
Voting period ends on 4 Nov 2013  at 19:29:13 (UTC)
 * Reason:High EV, High quality. One document (check) connects four U.S. suffragists.
 * Articles in which this image appears:National American Woman Suffrage Association
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/History/USA History
 * Creator:Harriet Taylor Upton, Susan B. Anthony, and Alice Stone Blackwell. Image by Godot13, courtesy of the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian Institution.


 * Support as nominator --Godot13 (talk) 19:29, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Support -- High encyclopedic value. It needs to be spelled "check" though as this is an American historical document. -- Dougie WII (talk) 08:46, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You are correct. I only used the English spelling because the American spelling led to a disambiguation page. I've changed it in the image text and the nomination text, but I don't know how to change it in the nomination title...-Godot13 (talk) 09:56, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment. Once again, with the black background I can only think "obituary notice" or "letter informing of a death". 86.171.42.234 (talk) 11:04, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * This is the third or fourth time you have made the very same comment, and I have explained the reasons each time. I get the point, you don't like the black background, despite the fact that it is standard convention. Can we be done now? Thanks-Godot13 (talk) 11:45, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Who says it is a "standard convention"? I have never seen it anywhere other than here. Also, no good reason has ever been advanced. Obviously the intention is to show the edges of the item, that is completely obvious. However, that is not a reason for it to be black. 86.171.42.234 (talk) 17:07, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure a FP nomination is the place to really get into this. Please see the American Numismatic Association and how they display their notes here, here, and here. There are also examples from the Smithsonian. Outside of archival scanning, there is also cataloging for auctions, in which most major companies tend to follow the standard convention, of a black background. It’s not a universal absolute (e.g., San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank Museum), but it’s fairly prevalent.-Godot13 (talk) 17:34, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment- I agree with 86.171.42.234 (talk).  Museums usually display notes, coins etc in a box-case with a black felt lining and black felt cover. The illustrations on your website example have used a black background in a similar manner.  However, a black background for a light-sensitive museum object is a very different thing to a black border. Because of the width of the black band here, it conjures up the black border used on funeral notices. It looks like a border. It doesn't look like a background. It needs removing and the image presented without the apparent border. It doesn't belong to the image (like the outer margin of an etching or book illustration).  Amandajm (talk) 02:21, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * People on here just keep on drifting further and further out to sea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.132.210 (talk) 05:25, 30 October 2013‎


 * Comment- The black border has been tightly cropped to reduce the funereal look of the check. Did it enhance the EV?-Godot13 (talk) 06:06, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment- No, it's still funereal. It doesn't read as background, it reads as border. It needs to go. Amandajm (talk) 09:59, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Support. I cannot imagine what all the fuss above is about. Anything with an uneven edge needs a border; otherwise it will be cropped within the edges of the original. Black is as good as any other color, and better than a non-contrasting color like white. Chick Bowen 00:52, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Support per Chick. On such a bright surface as this, any colour but black would not provide adequate contrast for detailed viewing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:17, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, even pure white would be fine in this case, showing the edges with all the clarity that could be desired. 86.160.82.199 (talk) 04:20, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:36, 2 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Support per others. J Kadavoor J e e 16:19, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 19:39, 4 November 2013 (UTC)