Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Old Panorama of Beirut

Old Panorama of Beirut

 * Reason:The picture emphasizes both the history of the city and the early use of panoramic photography.
 * Articles this image appears in:Panorama, Beirut.
 * Creator:Maison Bonfils


 * Support as nominator --Banzoo (talk) 19:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment This picture really needs some clean up. GerardM (talk) 04:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Apart stitching, I preserved the original quality, color, and exposure of the frames. One should note that the frames are albumen prints, and the photos have not been taken in the same moment, hence, with different lighting conditions (when examining shadows on different frames). That might explain the exposure differences. --Banzoo (talk) 16:31, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: I would support this original, but for encyclopaedic completeness I think it would be a good idea to have a second version of this in grayscale, with corrected white balance and adjusted levels. Obviously the heavy yellow cast and low contrast are an effect of the albumen print and I think it's right to preserve these, but it's also good to see in addition more of the detail in an enhanced version of the photo (which does not supersede this). —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 19:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Following your comments I added a grayscale version with adjusted levels. --Banzoo (talk) 23:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Support original, with prominent link on image page to this grayscale version. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 10:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Question Why the arabic name? Wouldn't an English transliteration be more suitable to this wiki? --Muhammad (talk) 12:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I uploaded it to Commons which has no specific language in preference, I originally used it (but not exclusively) in Arabic Wikipedia. But I don't believe the naming is a problem, since all Wikipedias share media with different languages than their original one. --Banzoo (talk) 15:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Not convinced that albumen print degradation is something inherently worth preserving.  See the difficult work reconstructing the costume at File:Gaucho1868b.jpg For panoramas, refer to File:Jerusalem panorama early twentieth century2.jpg or the stitching at File:Cheyenne dance4.jpg.  A good effort; needs a little more care to be FP-worthy.  Durova Charge! 06:32, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you suggesting the use of the grayscale version? To note that the Jerusalem panorama is not an albumen print and has been taken around 30 years later, the other Gaucho picture is grainy and blurred in full resolution (normal since it's an albumen print). The stitched dance picture is not an albumen print, the exposure and brightness are almost the same in both frames, which is not the case for this older photograph. What kind of changes do you suggest for this one?--Banzoo (talk) 12:51, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Grayscaling isn't a substitute for getting in at 200% resolution and clearing out dirt, etc. Durova Charge! 06:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

--Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 06:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC)