Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/The Patriotic Song

The Patriotic Song
Voting period ends on 14 Jun 2010 at 12:29:40 (UTC)
 * Reason:It is relatively rare to have a freely licenced video of a performance of this former national anthem of Russia. It's presence in both articles in which it is currently present add significantly to the encyclopaedic value by showing usage of the national anthem.
 * Articles in which this image appears:Patrioticheskaya Pesnya, National anthem of Russia
 * FP category for this image:
 * Creator:Presidential Press and Information Office, extracted, edited and uploaded by User:Russavia


 * Support as nominator --Russavia I'm chanting as we speak 12:29, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: you said you edited the video, above. Could you just quickly specify what you did? Thanks,  Spencer T♦ Nominate! 17:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose I can not support a 320×240 pixel video. I'm not sure what minimum FP is for video, but imho it shouldn't be anything smaller then 480p. I'm also not sure about the copyright here on this image, it appears to be a violation. Maybe not a copyright violation, but the letter isn't explicitly releasing under the CC license as far as I can tell, just that they're "ok" with the license... Not sure what that means. — raeky ( talk 17:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I raised this issue years ago, with little response. Currently the criteria just say "Animations and video may be somewhat smaller." (i.e., than the 1000px of stills). --jjron (talk) 18:42, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 1000px might be a bit much for video... 720p is probably the best we can hope for, 1080p would be nice. I'd be highly in-favor of making the FP requirement for video 720p. Probably not the best place to discuss it. :P — raeky ( talk 22:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Not suggesting it should be the same as for stills, but the statement in the criterion is very vague. I'd even say 720p is probably too large for a requirement, but the 320 ones do seem a bit too small. Maybe worth raising at Talk as some point. --jjron (talk) 13:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * As I understand it, loading times are a major issue: They aren't actually thumbnailed, just shrunk, so a 720dpi video will be hell for anyone on anything but the fastest possible connection. There's also the upload limit, of course: This video is fairly short, but we can use it to estimate file size. Scaling up to 720 is a little over a 2x width, hence 22 = 4x area, and 1080 about 9x area. It's about a minute long, and is 5 megabytes. That means 720dpi is about 20 megabytes per minute - limiting videos to 5 minutes - and 1080 about 45 megabytes a minute, limiting them to two minutes. You can see that this is going to cause major troubles for any hard limits. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose I have to agree with Raeky, there definitely should be a flexibility for videos, especially older videos, but this is just way too small in my opinion. Cat-five - talk 22:53, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose; I can kind of see the EV here potentially, but the video itself is small, and, for the anthem itself, a much better video could be produced- focussing on the actual musicians. Would it be worth ripping the soundfile for a FS candidate? J Milburn (talk) 14:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Videos can actually be nominated to be featured sounds as well, and indeed this one is currently nominated: Featured sound candidates/The Patriotic Song.  Jujutacular  T · C 19:03, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per raeky Hive001   contact  08:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Don't mean to pile on but the quality just isn't there and its too small really. However the sound is excellent.  Fallschirmjäger   &#9993; 18:35, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

--Makeemlighter (talk) 16:08, 14 June 2010 (UTC)