Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 December 22

= December 22 =

Please move file to Commons
Namely File:Marcia_Arbuthnot.jpg ............. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  00:10, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, Commons:File:Marcia Arbuthnot.jpg; and I tagged the local enwiki copy for deletion which should happen in due course. Happy editing.  Chzz  ►

were is the ownership tag located on my hewlett packard laptop
were is the notebook ownership tag located on my hewlett packard laptop —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.187.78 (talk) 00:30, 22 December 2011‎ (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 01:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Google suggests that it might be in the BIOS, and you could press "F10" when booting up and see it in the "Security" menu. Maybe.
 * But as Ukexpat say, this q is outside the remit of our help desk.  Chzz  ► 02:51, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

How to restore a version of the page?
How do you restore the original version of a page, without having to press the undo button several times on various editors. For instance, I am trying to restore the Jerry Trainor page, to User:Confession07's last edit. References and info are currently missing. Is there a specific gadget to to this ? Tinton5 (talk) 01:15, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You would click on the time and date of that version. It will tell you at the top that you are viewing an old version of the article.  Click edit.  Save.  The old version will be the new.  Dismas |(talk) 01:25, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Marked 'resolved' as this seemed to work.  Chzz  ► 02:54, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

cant read the wikipedia pages
hi a couple of days ago i clicked onto a page of wikipedia and found i couldnt read it the writing is so tiny i have never had this problem before with wikipedia so i thought maybe there was some maintenece going on im not even sure im in the right department to send this as i cant see where it has gone but i think it is the help area if not can you please help me by passing it on i have checked everywhere on my web and i have not get this problem anywhere else just on this site As i cant read any answer you give me could you please email me at [removed email] thanks Corina — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.83.15 (talk) 01:58, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Press to reset size in many browsers . PrimeHunter (talk) 02:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I have emailed the below to the removed address.


 * We usually don't reply by email but I will make an exception.
 * Press Ctrl+0 to reset size in many browsers.
 * Press Ctrl and '+' or '-' to increase or decrease size.
 * Holding down Ctrl and scrolling the mouse wheel may do the same.
 * Perhaps you accidentally held down Ctrl and scrolled down to decrease the font size.
 * Your browser may remember the size you have "chosen" at a given website and use that next time you visit.
 * It is not controlled by Wikipedia.
 * PrimeHunter (talk) 02:50, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Page size script not working for me
Downloaded the script to my skin page (creating it). I get a button on the side. But when I push it, I don't get any info. Are like 4 little things at the top, but no info. seem to remember something that worked better...

TCO (talk) 03:48, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just tried User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js, first in vector and then in monobook, and it seems to work for me. I'm seeing a "Page size" link in the left toolbar, and this link adds a seven-line block at the top of the article, beginning "Document statistics". Can you describe the "4 little things" more fully? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:35, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I just get 4 bullet points at the top of the article, but no info after the bullets.

Document statistics: (See here for details.) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


 * Can you just give me the output (all) for "Fluorine"?


 * That's easy...


 * File size: 513 kB
 * Prose size (including all HTML code): 96 kB
 * References (including all HTML code): 29 kB
 * Wiki text: 123 kB
 * Prose size (text only): 46 kB (6944 words) "readable prose size"
 * References (text only): 1136 B
 * ...though I've no idea why it's not working for you. Someone who understands these things might want to know your browser name and version. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:58, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Just got the puter back from the shop. It is IE 9. (pretty common browser, no?) Maybe that is an issue or some setting (javascript?  Although pogo games with java works fine.)

Anyhoo, thanks for the response. 46kb is the key one and that is OK. Actually for a big element, I think I would get leeway anyhow.TCO (talk) 06:17, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, yes, I'm seeing the same thing with IE9. I've posted at User talk:Dr pda. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:41, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Name Jesus or Jeshua
Reasons "Jesus" is wrong 1) No letter "J" in the Greek. 2) "Iesus" in the Bible translations until, AD 1738, Roman Catholic Bishop of London, in  Editied "Rhiems New Testament." Not only 'Jesus' was new, but all New Testament names beginning with the letter "I" were changed "J" -- James John, Jude, etc." This was not enough for the bishop and so, all Hebrew names beginning with the letter "Y" were also chaznged to the letter "J." This was prophesied in AD 67, Revelation 13.6.

The Hebrew name for "JOshua" ";swhy" is the Hebrew name for "The Saviour" is translated, "He" (Y) The (H) [One] Saving ('sw); In Greek this is  translated,.Autos (H) The (O) Saving (Swthria) -- translated in English as, "He The [One} Saving.) This was first discovered by Sid Williams in August 2011. The Greek translation ("Blinded" - Isaiah 6.9-13; Matthew 13.14-15, Romans 11.20-23.) "Iesous" translated into English: I (tenth) E (feminie artice - [the); sos (of us).  And this has no meaning. NOTE: Most of the Jewish transating is "garbage" -- for Hebrew has no vowels, but the Jews flood everything with vowels.  Besides that, "The Jewish Superstition," named by Preface to ASV, 1901, reads, 1) The name of God is too holy to be pronounced, 2) When we come to it, WE CHANGE IT, SEE: JerusalemPerspective.com -- writer - DavidBiven.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.92.212.238 (talk) 04:10, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This page is for asking questions on how to use wikipedia, do you have a question? GB fan 04:15, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Editing protected Wikipedia entries
I found some small errors in a Wikipedia article, but when I tried to correct them (with a wording change) I was told that only authorized people could make changes.

I then searched the Wikipedia website, including frequently-asked questions, but could not find how to make such changes or how to bring the errors to the attention of someone who can make the changes.

I would appreciate learning how this can be done.

Howard41 (talk) 05:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Each article has a talk or discussion page linked on the top left where you can request such changes. - 194.60.106.17 (talk) 08:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * See Edit requests for more details. Since your account is well over four days old and has made over ten edits, the page must have been a fully protected page, and you should add an template to your request. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Double substitution
See Template:Nfa (current code), and the subpage it depends on, Template:Nfa/code (current code).

If you substitute the Nfa template, it works just excellent: typing  and saving results in , which shows as Brazil.

However, not substituting the Nfa template breaks it:  in the edit box yields Brazil  [sic] as readable text.

I realised this only after a few hours' struggle with Template:Nft (history) and the subpage I created, Template:Nft/code (history). My aim was to enable it to display properly both when substituted and when not. I was following Template:Nfa's model hoping to achieve that, until I discovered that Template:Nfa had that problem too. Neither of the templates can do without a subpage, for more information see this discussion caused by a clumsy effort of mine yesterday. And nft is transcluded on many pages now, so it would be a tough task to go through them all and place "subst:" in front of every "nft".

Is there a possible solution to the problem? --Theurgist (talk) 05:31, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * It looks like you just need to use safesubst instead of subst.--Patrick (talk) 22:08, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Brilliant! It works. Thank you so much! --Theurgist (talk) 01:57, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

The Berkeley Eagles baseball article.
Hi, I have been sent the link to the Berkeley Eagles baseball article which contains nothing but lies, derogitory information and obvious bias towards myself, Dom D'Antonio and my brother Ben. The article was obviously written by a Berkeley Eagles person to get sqaure at me for leaving the Club after 27 years of hard work and a much deserved life membership. To set the record straight, there has never been a rivalry between my brother and I or any clubs we played for. This article is full of BS and I want it deleted immediately or I will be taking legal action against who ever is responsible for this trash and wikipedea for printing it. See link below for article09:29, 22 December 2011 (UTC)~

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Eagles_(baseball)

Dom D'Antonio — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.71.45 (talk) 09:29, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * In the first place you must retract your legal threat; Wikipedia does not tollerate legal threats. In the second place please do not remove sourced content; I have partially reverted your deletion (omitting the part about the D'Antonio brothers, which is not supported by the source). —teb728 t c 10:11, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll leave someone else to answer your question about Berkeley Eagles (baseball), but first you need to read WP:NLT and WP:COI. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:11, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

about infobox writer
what is meanning of ‹ The template (Infobox writer) is being considered for merging. › — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lrtaher (talk • contribs) 09:59, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * What it says at the top of Template:Infobox writer is "The template Infobox writer is being considered for merging with Template:Infobox person." It then provides a link to the discussion at Templates for discussion. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:06, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

How to edit an article
I would like to know how to edit an article The article I would like to edit is to do with the city I live in. It is a topic I know a fair bit about. I have noticed some missing and some incomplete information in this particular article and I would like to know how I can add what I know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.149.36.192 (talk) 10:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If the city is Narrabri, New South Wales, it is not protected; so you should be able to edit it by clicking on an edit link in the article. But be sure you provide references to reliable published souces for any changes. Wikipedia does not accept content based on personal knowledge. —teb728 t c 10:28, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Untitled section: Vibe
I did not order Vibe NOR DO I WANT IT and I want it stopped now please, and I would like to know who ordered it? My name is Cary Farley (Redacted)  Thank you  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.229.117.98 (talk) 13:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. RJFJR (talk) 14:10, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Donation
Tried to make a donation on your site, and I received a message that the transaction did not process. I tried twice, but was unsuccessful. You may want to check this - could be preventing donations, such as mine. I am able to use the same Credit Card and other information on other websites without a problem. If you like, I can send you the error block - just let me know at [email removed for privacy]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.9.138.11 (talk) 15:35, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * We generally don't reply by email here. You can mail to problemsdonating@wikimedia.org. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:56, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_McConnell
This seems quite wrong:

Incumbent Assumed office January 3, 2007 Deputy	Trent Lott Jon Kyl President	Dick CheneyItalic text Joe Biden Preceded by	Harry Reid — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.234.122.138 (talk) 17:56, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems wrong to me, although I'm not too familiar with American politics, I don't think either was the president. Text reverted, thanks for bringing it to our attention.  Я ehevkor ✉  18:17, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * It was under the heading "Senate Minority Leader" in the infobox. "President" means who was President of the Senate at the time. This is automatically the Vice President of the United States. See United States Senate. It was Dick Cheney when Mitch McConnell asumed office January 3, 2007. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:18, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, shows how much I know :P  Я ehevkor ✉  18:20, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Someone changed it - Wrong Photo and Copy
The Interest page titled Cary Capparelli has been changed again.

It again has a photo of Congressman Mike Quigley. Although the title is Cary Capparelli the photo is not him.

The copy has also been changed again from bio information on Capparelli to a generic page of a congressional election won by Quigley.

Either change the photo and information back to Capparelli as it was originally or change the title to Mike Quigley.

Also disallow the changer from making changes. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.141.109.53 (talk) 18:20, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Can you provide a link to the page you refer to? The Wikipedia article Cary Capparelli has no photo. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * The Cary Capparelli article was replaced by a redirect to the election article on November 21, and then restored on December 15. I'm not sure why you are still seeing the pre-December 15 version. I have purged both pages again to shake up the Wikipedia servers, and I recommend that you bypass your browser cache - this is Control-F5 on many browsers.
 * As this is the "encyclopedia that anyone can edit", it is unlikely that the article will be protected from editing. One possible outcome is that the editors may decide that Capparelli does not meet the criteria at WP:POLITICIAN, in which case the article is likely to be replaced by the "redirect" to the election article once more. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:42, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The Cary Capparelli article was replaced by a redirect to the election article on November 21, and then restored on December 15. I'm not sure why you are still seeing the pre-December 15 version. I have purged both pages again to shake up the Wikipedia servers, and I recommend that you bypass your browser cache - this is Control-F5 on many browsers.
 * As this is the "encyclopedia that anyone can edit", it is unlikely that the article will be protected from editing. One possible outcome is that the editors may decide that Capparelli does not meet the criteria at WP:POLITICIAN, in which case the article is likely to be replaced by the "redirect" to the election article once more. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:42, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I answered the same question here, about a week ago.ref I'll copy my same answer;


 * On 21 November, "merged" the article on Mr. Capparelli into the election article, by changing it into a redirect, with this edit. That's fine (we encourage bold editing) but, because I cannot see any discussion about it, I have undone that, which has restored the article Cary Capparelli.


 * Please discuss it on Talk:Cary Capparelli. Thanks,  Chzz  ► 20:16, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Feedback Please!
Where can I get feedback for my article? It's been live for over a month now, I changed everything I was told to change (e.g. advertisement style writing). I would like my article to be reviewed. Help please! My article is: Model United Nations (MUN) Resolution 85.103.28.131 (talk) 19:59, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * It's up for AFD right now. Sorry, PROD and not AFD. (that's not an opinion, just pointing it out to others)
 * If you feel that the items have been addressed, you (or anyone else) can remove the PROD template. But the person who put the template there might disagree and bump it up a notch to WP:AFD.  Dismas |(talk) 22:14, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If you feel that the items have been addressed, you (or anyone else) can remove the PROD template. But the person who put the template there might disagree and bump it up a notch to WP:AFD.  Dismas |(talk) 22:14, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Forwarding an article.
Is there an easy way to link an article in Wikipedia to a friend?

I don't see a link.

Thank you,

Mary B. Goouch

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Royal Owl (talk • contribs) 20:10, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Any time you are reading a Wikipedia article, the URL for that article will be at the top of your browser window. Just copy that URL and paste it into an e-mail to your friend. (By the way: for your own protection, I've redacted your e-mail address to keep the spammers from harvesting it and bombarding you even more than before.) -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  20:16, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Sharebox is a script that reorders your toolbox. It adds new buttons that make it easier to mail, print or share an article on Facebook or another linksharing service. You must have an account to add Sharebox to the sidebar. See User:TheDJ/Sharebox for more information. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:31, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

research rose band muscogee creek
Am trying to reach and find out more about mekko victor t. Vasco. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.228.125.178 (talk) 22:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * If you need to find more information about that topic, then please search it in the Wikipedia Search Box. If there is not a article for that topic, then please research it on Google, or whichever search engine you want to use. If you would like, please make a article for that topic in Wikipedia. CPGirlAJ (talk) 22:24, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

How to Embed a Random Page from a Category?
Hi, I'm trying to learn how to write a PHP tag extension. If you want to embed a random page from a specific category, how might you go about doing so (would you use MySQL, the API, or what)? --Octify27 (talk) 23:14, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This has been answered at Village pump (technical). -- John of Reading (talk) 06:01, 23 December 2011 (UTC)