Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 May 27

= May 27 =

Adding an article
Hi

I just joined Wikipedia and i find that there is no article for the software called XOWA, can i just write it up? is it notable enough?

Timothy — Preceding unsigned comment added by TimothyBoland1 (talk • contribs) 01:55, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Possibly, google turns up a fair number of hits. I'd suggest working on the article in your sandbox, and adding references not made by the developers of the software themselves. Stuff like Tech Republic and Arstechnica is good. MaxBrowne (talk) 06:57, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @TimothyBoland1 - See Your first article for guidance on how to begin. Before you begin first collect your sources, such as magazine or news articles, so that you can add references to them as you proceed with the writing. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:33, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @MaxBrowne

Thank will do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.211.189.231 (talk) 01:58, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

What is this?
and is it edible to humans? Thanks. --Kísk Kisk (talk) 08:56, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Clicking on the image will bring up the File page, where you will discover that this is the eye of the Antarctic krill. So probably edible. It's also worth noting, entirely tangentially, that this Help desk is for questions relating to the use of Wikipedia, and frivolous or obviously foolish questions often result in a block being issued to the questioner. Yunshui 雲 水 09:08, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * This question is more suited for the Science Reference desk, maybe. At any rate, basically what Yunshui said. - Purplewowies (talk) 09:41, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Dutch "van" names
In the Dutch and Belgian phone books you'll find "van Dijk" under D, in the rest of the world you'll probably find it under V. When listing people from a variety of nationalities on the English wikipedia, should "van Dijk" be sorted under V or D? MaxBrowne (talk) 10:32, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Examination of for example Category:Dutch rowers shows that "van" names are not under V. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:43, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * See Dutch name and Tussenvoegsel which states "In the Netherlands, these tussenvoegsels are not included when sorting alphabetically" - Arjayay (talk) 11:02, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm thinking of List of chess grandmasters which includes players from all sorts of nationalities and naming conventions. Sorting them all alphabetically is a pain; it's not always clear whether you're dealing with a surname, a given name or a patronym and what the correct naming order is. So even for the familiar Dutch "van" names there's no clear answer as to how they should be sorted? MaxBrowne (talk) 11:35, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd agree that the different order of given and family names makes it difficult, especially as, when sorted, it doesn't "look" sorted. This came up recently with the new Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal on the Premier league article.  When I've dealt with this before, I used the default sort names hidden in the edit page of the individual's article - but many of the names in your list don't have articles.


 * I think the Dutch position is fairly clear, ignore the "van", but having re-read Tussenvoegsel it also says "In Belgium, surnames are collated with the full surname including tussenvoegsels", so a Dutch de Vries would be under V, whilst a Belgian one would be under d, making your alphabetical list look ridiculous. As this is the English Wikipedia, should we be following these conventions in any case? - Arjayay (talk) 12:04, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

my website
I like to help people using my website for web development and desktop application development.

My website is : coderefiner.com

http://coderefiner.com/Contacts.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.101.2.127 (talk) 12:37, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

password reset
It's been a couple of years since I logged in. I forgot my password and requested a reset yesterday but got no response. Today I tried again but received a message that only one password reset in 24 hours would be processed. I cannot log in. What can I do about it? Thanks, Tom C — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.40.180 (talk) 13:00, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Is the email account that you specified when you created the account still active? Have you checked its spam folder?  If you don't have the password in your inbox or in your spam folder, you may need to create a new account.  Robert McClenon (talk) 14:57, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

List of armed groups in the Syrian Civil War
I can't find anything in the FAQ, what to do if I want to report an article editor or changes and I'm too careful to try and do changes myself but someone deleted VERY important references in this article which cited some of the involvements of Al-Qaeda.

List of armed groups in the Syrian Civil War — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christian Shinja (talk • contribs) 13:01, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * By the sound of it, you have a content dispute with somebody. The page I have linked to tells you how to proceed, which begins with opening a polite discussion on the article's talk page, or the talk page of the person you disagree with. --ColinFine (talk) 16:22, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

How to mark quotations of uncertain authenticity?
Certain historical figures get quotations falsely attributed to them on a regular basis.

So for example History of central banking in the United States cites a page with a number of quotes by Benjamin Franklin and other founders of the U.S. which I can find widely reposted across the net. However, a sampling of the pages show they seem to be cut and pastes from some original source, all seem to have a certain ideological bent, and notably don't actually say when and where the quotes originated. The information may be in this book, but I don't have a copy to check.

I'm not sure it's wrong; the page on Currency Act describes it as being a significant issue at the time with more mainstream sources. But I don't trust the neutrality of the sources I have access too, either. I used Template:Better source with an explanatory note. This doesn't seem like a unique situation, however; is there a more specific template that would be better suited? Thank you!

71.41.210.146 (talk) 15:13, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * dubious or Disputed-inline maybe?--ukexpat (talk) 15:21, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Wrong information recorded - Muslim conquest of the Indian subcontinent - makes it to the top list of death toll ! What !?
This ridiculously high number and misinformation provided should be removed. It is obvious that the conquest didn't exist from the first place as it is mentioned in the article and these numbers would be impossible to exist in before 1000 years.

Please delete this article - Muslim conquest of the Indian subcontinent from death troll table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.65.122.59 (talk) 15:52, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * See (sic) above--ukexpat (talk) 16:14, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

cannot use "Talk"
I cannot use my own talk page nor an article's talk page. I have no idea how I write a message. I want to discuss the article "Makumira University College" which should have the heading "Tumaini University Makumira". However does this latter article exist already, but it is inferior. Actually some kind of fusion between the two would be the best. --Dr DagO (talk) 16:50, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You have already been editing article pages so you clearly know how to edit. Are you getting some kind of error message when you attempt to edit a talk page? Please ask a more specific question on that.  Spinning  Spark  17:18, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * You may merge the articles yourself by copying material from one page to the other. Please be sure to place a link in the edit summary indicating the article the material came from.  This is required for copyright reasons.  When you have finished, replace the contents of the article you don't want to keep with a redirect.  Spinning  Spark  17:23, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Ivo Andric article in English language
"Some claim that the works of Andrić, particularly his thesis The Development of Spiritual Life in Bosnia under the Influence of Turkish Rule have resurfaced as a source of anti-Muslim prejudice in Serbian cultural discourse.[23]"

Dear Sir/Madam

I have quoted this sentence from article about Ivo Andric in English language. Could you please reconsider putting this sentence as it claims that Ivo Andric is responsible for anti-Muslim prejudice among Serbians. The argument for that is not supported. Anybody can write "some claim" and write whatever they want after that.

I am myself Serbian and really love Andric`s literature but I in the same time don't have prejudice about any religion or nation. Andric's literature writes about the time while our countries were occupied by Ottoman Empire and negative attitude is preliminary desire for freedom not desire to hate anybody but rather to love our countries and all nations that live here.

So please reconsider this part as it hurts my feeling as human being and I believe lots of Serbians will feel the same way.

Faithfully yours Jelena Zujovic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.87.124.48 (talk) 16:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Actually, the claim is supported by a reference to Ammiel Alcalay, Memories of Our Future: Selected Essays 1982–1999 (City Lights Books, 1999: ISBN 0-87286-360-3). In my opinion "some claim" is weasel wording and the claim should instead be attributed just to Alcalay, if it is kept at all.  However, I have no access to that book so cannot even confirm that is what Alcalay said.  Spinning  Spark  17:40, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Bot notification question
How does one enroll an RfC into the bot notification system? I'd like to get this RfC placed with one. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 18:31, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * As I understand it, the recipients of the RFC notifications are chosen randomly by the bot based on the participants preferences. You are not able to influence it from the RfC end. 80.41.155.80 (talk) 18:46, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * No, not trying to influence the bot. Just trying to put it with the bot so it can notify editors at random. SW3 5DL (talk) 19:06, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, got it. SW3 5DL (talk) 19:20, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Category for attempted murders or spree killings
Does the English Wikipedia have a category for attempted murders or spree killings, which had undergone enough planning to be illegal in itself, but which never actually happened? J I P &#124; Talk 18:48, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The closest I can find: Category:Assassination attempts, Category:People convicted of attempted murder, Category:Failed terrorist attempts. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:05, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Wiki entry question
Hi-

I'm confused about why my article got declined. The message I got, "This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability."But, I have a full press section all tied to stories in the references section.

Is it just a matter or moving info from one section to another? Any direction is greatly appreciated.

Thanks! Stacey

IKravitz680 (talk) 22:47, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Just posting to let anyone else reading this know that the OP also asked this same question on the talk page for the editor, User:Chris1834, who declined the original submission. Dismas |(talk) 00:18, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflicted with Dismas)
 * From the reviewer's comments, I think they are looking for inline citations in the body of the article. This makes it easier to verify that the facts stated in the article are in the sources referenced.  The lack of inline citations are definitely a deficiency of the article, and could result in large sections of the article being deleted if it were to be put into mainspace as it now is, although your article should not be rejected for this alone.
 * The notability issue is that independent reliable sources discussing the subject in depth are required to establish notabiity. I haven't done a thorough review of the sources but I took a quick look and have some concerns.  The NYT is certainly a reliable source, but the piece only gives a passing mention to the company.  Most of the rest appear to be trade press.  Such articles are often based on company press releases or are company submitted and thus cannot be considered independent sources.  I don't know whether or not that is the case here, but maybe that was what the reviewer was thinking.  Also, many of the links are dead so I could not read the actual articles.  Those I did look at were mostly about the buildings rather than the company.  The only one that I looked at that is in-depth and on the right subject was the Architect Leaders Today article.  Perhaps the reviewer has independence concerns on that one.  You can discuss the issues directly with the reviewer—ah, I see you have already found their talk page.  Spinning  Spark  00:22, 28 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I see two issues. One is that the references should be cited in the body of the article, after the statements they support, rather than below the article. The other, more serious, issue is that the only reliable independent source cited, in the New York Times, does not mention the subject of the article. My advice is: if you are unable to find references better than any of those you have provided, the article will be rejected, and you are wasting your time working on it.Maproom (talk) 06:42, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Sanjay Jha
Hello,

My name is Jennifer Sterkel, and I am the Director, Corporate Communications at GLOBALFOUNDRIES. I have a number of edits I would like to make to the Wikipedia page for Dr. Sanjay K. Jha who is currently CEO of GLOBALFOUNDRIES. Because I work for this company, I am not sure if my updating the information is a conflict of interest.

I would welcome your guidance and assistance, if possible, to update his Wikipedia profile page. Sanjay Jha

Thank you, Jennifer Sterkel Director, Global Employee Communications GLOBALFOUNDRIES GF-CorpComm (talk) 23:11, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Jennifer, there are a couple issues here.
 * The first, as you mention, is the fact that you have a conflict of interest. You can find our conflict of interest policy at WP:COI.  We are building an encyclopedia and not trying to advertise for anyone or anything.  So, everything must remain neutral in our articles.  So, to make sure that we can keep the article neutral, we prefer that people unrelated with Dr. Jha be the ones who edit the article about him.  Therefore, it would be best if you were to provide information about Dr. Jha on the talk page for the article which can be found at Talk:Sanjay Jha.  When you provide that information, which may or may not be used in the article, please provide reliable sources for it.  Just like when you wrote papers for school and had to list your sources in a bibliography, we also must list where we get our information.  We can't just take people's words for it.
 * The second point I'd like to make is that your username is not allowed. See WP:USERNAME.  Usernames should not be names of companies or the like.  If you'd like to create another username under your real name or some other moniker that you'd like to go by, that would be fine.  Oh, and that account would be yours and yours alone.  It would not be for you and the rest of the employee communications department.  One person - One account.
 * Any questions, feel free to respond here and myself or another editor will be happy to help. Dismas |(talk) 00:09, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Any questions, feel free to respond here and myself or another editor will be happy to help. Dismas |(talk) 00:09, 28 May 2014 (UTC)