Wikipedia:Meetup/Adelaide/Meetup 2

To coincide with a visit to Adelaide by Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales, a breakfast with the GodKing himself has been organised.
 * Where: ZUMA caffe, 56 Gouger Street, Adelaide (Central Market)
 * When: Monday 23 April 2007.
 * Time: They open at 7am. Meetup proper from 7:30 till 9:00 or when you have to leave
 * Menu: $8.90 Full Breakfast, $3.00 Coffee.
 * Access: Excellent access via public transport. Onstreet bicycle parking. Central Market car park above.

Location
I suggest the criteria be: Some original research found:
 * Somewhere near to the Hilton Hotel so Jimbo can get to his conference easily
 * Somewhere cheap but edible so as many people (students etc) who want to go can..
 * A public wireless access point would be nice
 * Room enough for 20 people
 * Open by 7:30 am.
 * Not noisy
 * Zuma caffe, 56 Gouger Street. $8.90+$3 for full breakfast and coffee. Sniff of Internode wireless from accross the street. Has some atmosphere.
 * Cibo expresso, 41 Gouger Street. $3 coffeee. $6-$8 rolls, $7.50 museli. Internode wireless access point.
 * Ecco expresso bar, 1A Victoria Square (arcade next to Hilton), $14 full breakfast and coffee.
 * Baked on the Square, Victoria Square (corner with Grote St), $8.50 bacon & eggs with toast, $11.90 bacon & eggs with the lot. $2.60 coffee (my 2nd choice, go here when we outgrow Zuma caffe).
 * Market arcade - didn't check all these out, one near Ecco expresso bar had $8.50 for breakfast+drink but might be a bit of a squeeze.
 * Pick your favourite, give us a time and whammo! We could debate specifics for ages, but there is no need to. michael talk 22:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok Zuma Caffe it is as long as numbers not much more than 20 then may need to move. Alex Sims 22:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm. We have possibly 22 attendees now. Is this going to be OK with Zuma?--cj | talk 16:51, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, we're up to 27 potential attendees. What's ZUMA's capacity?--cj | talk 08:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll check with them next week. We'll be out the back (in the market area). Alex Sims 10:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 27 (or more) will be fine. I just need to confirm rough numbers the Friday before with Zuma. The area out the back is quite large. Alex Sims 04:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've confirmed the numbers/booked with Zuma so we're all set! Alex Sims 03:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Just in case anyone's confused (highly unlikely considering the central nature of the location, but still), here's a link to a map... Cheers! – Riana ऋ 14:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Publicity
Some publicity is required at least: Alex Sims 11:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) notify Adelaide Wikipedians via Talk Pages.
 * 2) Solicit invitations of geographically local Wikipedia users.
 * 3) Use other mediums outside of Wikipedia to advertise to non-Wikipedia users; like classifieds advertising and word of mouth.


 * I think we 'advise' of the meeting in that order, don't think numbers should be too much of a issue given the audience. If we invite non-Wikipedia users, i would suggest letting the open source software community know (LinuxSA, AUUG) and the BarCampAdelaide guys. Derek.munneke 01:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think we'll need to publicise externally. Considering the nature of the meetup, a smaller group is probably preferable.--cj | talk 06:55, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I've drawn up a potential spam list of users listed on WP:ADEL and in . See User:Cyberjunkie/User links/Spam list. We may want to trim that down to the most active users. Also, we need to draft an invite to post to each.--cj | talk 07:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * A message might be titled "Adelaide Breakfast Meetup on 23rd April 2007" and the text "Apologies if you're already aware of this, but the second Adelaide Meetup will take place on Monday 23rd of April at Zuma caffe, 56 Gouger St Adelaide. The meeting is at 7:30 am for breakfast and Jimbo Wales will be attending. Please indicate if you might attend.". I don't support trimming down to active users. If we got 100 (which I doubt) I'd be rapt (and we would need to change venue but another nearby venue could cope). CJ can you organise this message to go out? Alex Sims 10:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keeping within the constraints of the venue was my concern. But if everyone is fine with the possibility of having to find a larger venue, then I'm happy to deliver the invite to those on the spamlist.--cj | talk 12:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you send the 'invite' to the User:Cyberjunkie/User links/Spam list? If not, i think it should be done. Derek.munneke 18:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll get to it ;)--cj | talk 22:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ooo, There are a few sock puppets in that spam list... I would hate to see them get a hold of this link and see what they do to this page. Most of them have been blocked though. --An Apple a day keeps -The Doctor-  Away.. Or does it! (talk)(contribs) 13:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm just checking over the users on the list (removing the socks) and have noticed several have openly stated themselves to be minors; not only does this raise issues vis-á-vis our child protection policy, it also gives rise to the question of inviting minors to this event. Our friends in the West have already had a discussion regarding this, and resolved that minors may only attend if accompanied by a legal guardian. Seems fair?--cj | talk 01:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I would put the cutoff at sixteen, but it sounds fair. michael talk 01:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like I made the cut off by one day. Now I am as so called a 'minor' at the moment but unfortunately under my circumstances I am under GOM (Guardianship of the minister) thus not being able to have a guardian present at the time even though it should be ok as I will be sixteen at the time of the meeting. An Apple a day keeps -The Doctor-  Away.. Or does it! (talk)(contribs) 11:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Cyberjunkie, are you able to send the 'invite' to the User:Cyberjunkie/User links/Spam list this weekend? If not, someone else needs to do it as the meetup is only four weeks away and people will appreciate the notice. Alex Sims 10:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. Sorry about the delay.--cj | talk 14:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * A question about this age thing: Will I be needed to drag a parent along, since I will be turning 16 the day before this? -- Reploidof20xx (TALK)  03:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Anybody thought of posting to LinuxSA or Whirlpool? --Avochelm 14:12, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Organisation
To make things run smoothly we'll need (volunteers please):
 * Name Badges
 * If this involved writing up usernames + real names, I can do it. First name only? – Riana ঋ 11:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just bring along 40 sticky labels and a texta, in fact I've probably got 36 left over from last time :-) Alex Sims 04:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! :) – Riana ऋ 06:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Digital Camera
 * Yep, can do. Daniel (talk) 11:13, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If I get there, I'll have mine as well.--cj | talk 11:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * May be able to bring mine. An Apple a day keeps -The Doctor-  Away.. Or does it! (talk)(contribs) 02:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Will bring mine, for some golden shots of SA'n Wikipedians. michael talk 04:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Numbers attending (rough) so the Meetup and the Venue integrate properly. see below.

Likely attendance
Please sign here and give some indication of how likely you will actually turn up. Minors must be accompanied by legal guardian.

Definite: I am there!

 * 1) michael talk 03:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Alex Sims 03:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC) : Definitely
 * 3) Peripitus (Talk) 20:36, 15 March 2007 (UTC) : Definately
 * 4) Daniel (talk) 05:43, 16 March 2007 (UTC) : Maybe. 99% confident.
 * 5) Ramanpotential (talk | contribs) 05:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC) : Count me in.
 * 6) Derek.munneke 06:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC) : Definitely!
 * 7) Paul foord
 * 8) QueyJoh
 * 9) Izazael : I'll be there, bleary-eyed and useless.
 * 10) Jimbo Wales 12:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC) YAY!
 * 11) Adam Jenkins 14:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC) : Definitely
 * 12) Steven Clark 14:59, 27 March 2007 (CAST) : Definitely
 * 13) Pingku 07:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) lucychili with bells on. Thanks. Janet

Probable: All things being right, i'll be there

 * 1) cj | talk 06:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC) : Probably.
 * 2) -The Doctor- 12:52, 19 March 2007 (EST) : I should be able to make it. I will be able to make it, involves getting up around 6 though.  10% chance that I will sleep in though. Bringing a guest also, Because I can't drive. Doesn't know anything about Wikipedia but I'm teaching him. Hope everyone doesn't mind.
 * 3) Jogomo 06:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC) Hopefully.
 * 4) Oliyoung 12:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) – Riana ঋ - Ehhh, missing thermodynamics is rather tempting... I'll try my best.
 * 6) Natski-asnd8 09:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC) Unless something comes up I'll probably attend
 * 7) Wayne 16:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC) Barring unforseen circumstances I'm there.
 * 8) Donama 23:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC) highly likely
 * 9) Blnguyen  (bananabucket) 05:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) PabloZ 11:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC) on a Monday morning? Maybe.
 * 11) –Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 07:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC) ...long as my alarm does the trick

Maybe: I'll try, but don't let the bacon get cold

 * 1) Darkcraft 02:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC) : I really hope I can make this, I'm not exactly the most active Adelaide Project wikipedian *coughcough* but I would hate to miss a meeting with you guys and Jimbo. I hope to be there :)
 * 2)  Reploidof20xx  (TALK)  02:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC) I may be able to, but since it's the day after my birthday, I might not.
 * 3) The Chairman 04:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC) I'm keen, but whether I'm available... If you hit the number-threshold kind of thing, I'm really low on the priority list...
 * 4) Damo 14:11, 29 March 2007  Jimmy Wales will be there? Whoa
 * 5) CWC 17:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC) I'd like to be there, but it's not looking likely
 * 6) Longhair, If I arrive, it'll be a four hour drive for me. I'm going to try anyway. -- Longhair\talk 10:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Rocksong 04:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Unlikely. May drop in briefly on the way to work.
 * 8) DarkAxi0m 07:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Sisters Bday, ill see what happends
 * 9) Ben Kingshott 14:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC) I'm not a morning person, and I do live in the hills... but we shall see.
 * 10) Diceman 13:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC) Pity a more suitable time isn't available.
 * 11) GK1 00:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC) Normally I'd say no because of the time, but I'm not working that week. Just have to drag myself out of bed early!

Apologies: I wish I could

 * 1) Solander 15:40, 19th April 2007 (UTC) Not available, thanks for the invite
 * 2) Orderinchaos78 09:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC) One day, one day...
 * 3) Joseph Q Publique 09:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Once again, sadly not - am working. Maybe some other time.
 * 4) --Nitchell 22:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC) Oh well, perhaps some other time.
 * 5) hellboy 23:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC) Sounds great, but don't think I'll be able to make it with work commitments.
 * 6) --Gunny01 07:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC) Why am I always busy on these sort of days?
 * 7) Scott Davis Talk 04:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC) Not working in the city is a real pain for things like this.
 * 8) George 09:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC) Sorry, can't. I've got school.
 * 9) Ian Riley 13:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC) interstate, me thinks
 * 10) Mjhowie 04:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC) school's more important lol
 * 11) Nervousbreakdance 03:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC) Can't make it, I'm afraid : (
 * 12) Thor Malmjursson 03:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC) Wish I could, but can't get time off work. Sorry.
 * 13) Taylor 12:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC) Got confirmation today.   Sorry.  Wish I could meet the GodKing
 * 14) Mark Hurd 14:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC) : I'm not a morning person; would be getting up at 5:30 to ensure getting there :-(
 * 15) Mobile 01 talk14:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC) Sorry, got called to an early meeting.

Agenda
I guess we should set at least some goals for the meetup; it should be helpful to define the things we want to achieve or discuss. Suggestions?--cj | talk 05:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I can't really think of anything beyond Wikimania 08, Wikimedia Australia, that sort of thing... – Riana ऋ 15:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiCensus
I thought a WikiCensus of Wikipedians present might be fun as an icebreaker (and provide some insights into ourselves). I'll bring some sheets with questions and squares to collect dots on them and provide 10 sticky dots per person to put against alternatives (I recall the Australian Democrats doing this at the Royal Adelaide Show some time ago, it's quick, anonymous and collates the results instantly). Some questions I've thought of are Any comments? Alex Sims 04:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Age/Gender (10x10 year blocks x 2 boxes)= 20 alternatives
 * Are you non-editor/editor/admin/meta
 * Editing for days/months/years
 * Education Level school/uni/postgrad
 * Employment Status student/part time/full time/unemployed
 * Hours you spend editing each week
 * Hours you would like to spend editing each week
 * Sounds like fun! It had better be a pretty quick one, because we won't get more than about an hour and a half, right? But I like the idea as an icebreaker :) – Riana ऋ 12:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * sounds like a good thing to me Derek.munneke 22:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Made a minor typo above. Daniel (talk) 06:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Greets Alex. Was a nifty census thanks. Would be great to see some wiki folks at [SFD] on 15 September? [Adelaide SFD]Lucychili 11:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Results


The rest are in the PDF . All will get turned into SVG one day!Alex Sims 00:18, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Just a quick thanks to Alex for organising, and to everyone who was a pleasure to converse with. Cheers, and perhaps again sometime! michael talk 06:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. That's interesting -- pretty much what I'd have expected. Too bad I missed this. Donama 01:21, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Post meetup
So, all in all an ok gathering. Please help with the summary on Meetup/Adelaide if you can. Can anyone confirm who or many was in attendance? Also, has anyone any photos they might like to upload?--cj | talk 14:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Who took photos? I can't remember... – Riana ऋ 15:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I know Michael had one of himself, but I remember being snapped by someone – whom I unfortunately did not get to talk with – across the table from us.--cj | talk 15:40, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think Alex Sims took a few. However, I'd be unsurprised if they didn't turn out great - it was pretty dark. – Riana ऋ 15:50, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * This is where I come into it. I got a few that did not turn out great because of the lighting but I am editing them and should be ready soon. As you can see to the photo to the left that is not of good quality and if anyone would like to edit it for me to save me having to do it at school it would save me a bit of trouble.An Apple a day keeps -The Doctor-  Away.. Or does it! (talk)(contribs) 06:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a fairly decent shot, Doc! I wonder whose hair is glowing eerily just at the bottom of the frame. – Riana ऋ 18:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Needs to be cropped also, This is why I wisk I had Adobe Photoshot. :S An Apple a day keeps -The Doctor-  Away.. Or does it! (talk)(contribs) 04:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I now feel very guilty, but I suppose I just took my shot as Jimbo was leaving. Mr. Sims did take a few I believe. michael talk 01:07, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi folks there are mp3s of the Wales Seminar and now one for the Panel session

Panel in Adelaide Directory of media including Jimmy's talk There is a bunch of random stuff in the directory but there are a series of files which are JW or Panel recordings.