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Ásatrúarfélagið

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 * A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style; it can be found on the automated peer review page for July 2009.

This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed my article about this neopagan group for peer review because I'd like to have feedback from people less close to the subject. I'm a member of the organization so a third party check for neutrality issues and navel-gazing would be most helpful. If you want any of the sources I used to write the article (some of them are in English or have English summaries) I may be able to help.

Thank you, Haukur (talk) 19:18, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Redtigerxyz's review
 * IMO, this article is very close to WP:GA status, certainly not a stub any more.
 * I see many references are non-English. Specify the language of the reference. I could not check the RS value of references, due to the language barrier
 * True enough. Still, four of the seven references in the bibliography are in English. One is in Icelandic, one is in German and one is in Swedish (with a summary in English). The minor sources are mostly newspaper articles in Icelandic. I'll see about identifying the language in each case. Haukur (talk) 11:27, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * In certain places, I see bare reference links like http://timarit.is/view_page_init.jsp?issId=189406&pageId=2477329&lang=en, http://www.asatru.is/PFD/vor_sidur_2tbl_2009.pdf : while others use cite web. I suggest use cite templates throughout for uniformity
 * Agreed, I need to tidy this up.
 * "Pétur Pétursson. 1985. "Island" in Religiös förändring i Norden 1930-1980. Pp. 111-153. Page 147." why is p. 147 listed separately?
 * Because the article as a whole is on pages 111-153 but the page with the relevant information is p. 147. What setup would you use?
 * Just state p. 147. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 12:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Is Ásatrúarfélagið part of the Church? : "collect a share of the church tax." The priest wears a cross-like thing???
 * Ah, glad you stumbled over that - some of this is so familiar to me that I forget to explain it. The cross-like pendant is a Mjöllnir symbol (actually, it's a copy of an old talisman the interpretation of which is not universally agreed upon - some think it actually was a Christian cross, others that it was a Thor's hammer, or perhaps that it was deliberately ambiguous). A better word for "church tax" might be "congregation tax", that corresponds more closely to the Icelandic word (sóknargjöld). Ásatrúarfélagið is not a part of the Church but you could regard it to a degree as a part of the state - there is a sort of integration of state and religion in Iceland.
 * "Ásatrúarfélagið (Icelandic The Ásatrú Association)": you mean to say that the literal translation of Ásatrúarfélagið is : "The Ásatrú Association", right? Instead I suggest: "Ásatrúarfélagið, (literally "The Ásatrú Association" in Icelandic), "
 * That is indeed what I mean to say, let me think about how best to represent that. I also mean to add a sound file with a reading of the word.
 * "The pagan organization was formed on the First Day of Summer 1972" Calender date?
 * Good point, I'll add it.
 * There is lot of jargon like allsherjargoði. To simplify that, I suggest: write the English of words in brackets: allsherjargoði (high priest). What is "Third Reic" ? "into goðorð, led by individual goðar"
 * Yeah, maybe I should just switch to using "high priest" for allsherjargoði throughout - and maybe priest for "goði" as well - the Icelandic words can be included in brackets on first mention. That ought to make the article more readable.
 * If allsherjargoði is an important term, it must be stated at least once to tackle opposition from an expert. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 12:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Quotes need references. Tagged a few.
 * I'll tidy up the references to those you tagged. I hope all others are adequately presented.
 * Too many blockquotes in "Beliefs and theology". Turn some into prose
 * Hmm, maybe. I'll think about it - but I'm wary of WP:SYNTH.
 * See Quotations too, When not to use quotations: the article (section) is beginning to look like Wikiquote. -- Redtigerxyz  Talk 12:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Any specific deities "Ásatrúarfélagið"s worship? like Thor, Odin, Loki etc.
 * Good point, another thing that seemed so obvious to me that I never mentioned it. Mostly Odin, Thor, Freyja, Freyr and the Earth. Not Loki. I should add a bit about this.
 * An image of a blot can be added in "Blót and other rituals"-- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm working on obtaining some images from earlier times that should make a nice fit there.
 * An image of a painting of an original Norse Blót, may work.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 12:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * That was a very helpful review in just the ways I was hoping for. Thank you very much indeed! Haukur (talk) 11:27, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I enjoyed reading the article, as I love to read about legend and religion. I have not checked the grammar as that is not my forte. Please ask someone else to check it. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 12:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)