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Green Day
I was hoping that other editors might have some advice on how to approve this article for a possible future FA nom. In general I think it's a good article and any helpful advice would be appreciated. Jtkiefer T 19:52, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * The fair use images are missing their fair use rationales. More references might be nice since this is quite a long article. Generally quite good by the looks of it! — Wackymacs 20:50, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

It's good, but I've got the following suggestions: CTOAGN (talk) 20:54, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Lookouts: "The band were smokers since puberty and Billie Joe got his nickname, "Two Dollar Bill," from selling joints at that price ($2) at his high school. The song "Green Day", written by Billie Joe, is about his first experience using marijuana." - this really needs to have a source cited.
 * I'd like some more stuff on the Woodstock mudfight as it was pretty notable.
 * Nimrod: It would be better to quote some positive reviews instead of just saying that the reviews were positive.
 * Warning: "nearly everyone was coming to the conclusion that the band was losing relevance" - a quote giving an example would help, otherwise it looks a bit like original research.
 * "Billie Joe was "the band's Nazi" and a show-off bent on taking the limelight from the other band members" - again, a citation would be good here.
 * It seems strange that Bullet in a Bible has a full track listing while the other albums don't. I think it should be moved to Bullet in a Bible.
 * Having lists in the middle of an article doesn't look good, so I'd move the line up to after charity events or discography.
 * Maybe some of those things should be removed like the billie joe nazi comment and the but the $2 bill thing should probably be kept since it's informative assuming that it can be sourced. Jtkiefer T  22:20, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd rather not see any of those things removed apart from the track listing. A quick look on google has just turned up an article with the quote "the band's Nazi", so I'll put the citation in.  [[Image:Yemen flag large.png|24px]] CTOAGN (talk) 23:30, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Also, the Line-up section includes the backing musicians from recent tours but not earlier ones (they had people playing brass instruments on tour with them in '98 that aren't included). CTOAGN (talk) 23:50, 24 November 2005 (UTC)


 * The biggest problem for this article is the lack of sources, there are several instances where X was quoted in Y, without a follow up reference. The writing is also fannish in parts, It would be beneficial to ask someone not involved in writing the article for a copyedit.--nixie 03:04, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll ask around on IRC if anyone can possibly take a look at it. Jtkiefer T  03:37, 25 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm not entirely familiar with what the standard is for band articles but the writing style also seems to be a bit fragmented but I have no idea on how to rewrite it to fix that. Jtkiefer T  03:41, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

I've only read the lead so far, but IMO, it needs to be cleaned up a bit. Why do we care what the birth names and birthplaces of the members are? Anyone who cares to know can view the member's individual article. As it has been pointed out, the two images that are fair use need to be justified more thoroughly. -Greg Asche (talk) 00:14, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I took care of some of the band member info creep but I don't know where to begin on the images. I'd hate to see them have to go since they add a bit to the historical section of the article but will probably have to be removed if the images are unjustifiable.  Jtkiefer T  03:55, 27 November 2005 (UTC)