Wikipedia:Peer review/U.S. Città di Palermo/archive2

U.S. Città di Palermo
This is a second submission of this article for Peer Review. I did my best to follow all earlier suggestions and obtained this article to be accepted as Good Article. Now it's time for a step forward, i.e. reaching a Featured Article status for this article. Please look at it and let me know your opinions and suggestions to improve it.


 * Archive: Peer review/U.S. Città di Palermo/archive1

Thanks in advance, --Angelo 17:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Comments from The Rambling Man
Okay, off to a good start but FA you want, FA comments forthcoming!
 * Reduce width of infobox by breaking the original name.
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Link Palermo in the lead.
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Ensure references comply with WP:CITE, in short, don't have spaces between the [ref] and the text, and try to put the [ref] after punctuation (e.g. move ref [6] to the other side of the comma)
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Three images in first History section feels cluttered.
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 21:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * ...just after World War I; Palermo competed in..., not a semi-colon, perhaps a comma?
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * League graph is great but not where it is, probably belongs in records/stats section.
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * WP:DASH for seasons, so not 1934-35, instead use en-dash, so 1934–35.
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 21:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not quite, I can see a few more (e.g. in the "See also" under "Back in Serie A", and "1953-54" in "Post-war Palermo" section
 * You're right. Now it's [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] done. --Angelo 18:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * ...decent side... is a bit over familiar. Perhaps something like ...made Palermo a well-established side... or something...
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * About five whole sections in History without a single citation - this is a problem.
 * The image of the 1969–70 team, what's the significance?
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Removed. --Angelo 21:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Wikilink years to the relevant Italian football seasons.
 * What do you mean with "relevant"? --Angelo 21:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * By this I mean when you refer to, say, "2002–03", you can wikilink that as 2002–03
 * I am doing this for all seasons for which a Wikipedia article exists (I even created by myself a couple of them). --Angelo 18:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * History section needs to be sub-paged - see Arsenal F.C. for guidance - then in the main article perhaps six or seven large paragraphs can be used.
 * Squad needs update - it says "as of January 31, 2007", we're now June.
 * It's the same than January, actually. --Angelo 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Youth squad isn't particularly relevant.
 * Yeah, but this is subtly subjective, say this to the ones who created articles such as F.C. Internazionale Milano Primavera. --Angelo 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but can you find examples of featured articles where this information is in the main team page? I'd suggest that you make it a subpage.
 * Okay, I removed it. [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 18:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * What makes the selection of "notable players" notable?
 * In fact I opened a discussion in the WikiProject Football to discuss this issue for all teams. --Angelo 21:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea, it's always brought up at WP:FAC and, again, checking out featured articles such as Arsenal F.C. you'll find, again, that a both a subpage was created with a specified set of criteria applied for players inclusion.
 * A subpage already existed. In fact now the paragraph contains only a link to that one. --Angelo 18:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Stadium section has too many short paragraphs.
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 21:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Honours could be tablified and records should be made into prose.
 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|24px]] Done. --Angelo 21:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Hope this helps, let me know if there's anything I can help you with. The Rambling Man 19:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your suggestions. As you can see, the issues I already fixed have been marked with a tick. Some of your suggestions instead deserve to be discussed to find a common solution, and others will be fixed as soon as possible. --Angelo 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I made a number of massive edits in order to comply with your suggestions, including creating a history article. Let me know how the article looks now. --Angelo 04:47, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Structurally everything seems sound, and it looks like the Rambling Man has picked up most things. Before going to FAC it could do with a light copyedit from a native English speaker. I'll run through it when I get the chance, and bring up any further issues as I do so. Oldelpaso 22:15, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you wait for a couple of weeks? Just because I am supposed next week to go in Florence at the National Library to have a look at a few very reliable sources for the club foundation. --Angelo 22:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. Drop a note on my talk page when you're ready. Oldelpaso 22:34, 21 June 2007 (UTC)