Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment

= July 7 =

Tie-break methods in soccer
I just wondered because this method isn't mentioned anywhere on our vast Wikipedia... a common criticism of penalty shootouts is that teams will play defensively, hoping for a win at penalties.

Has this method even found a serious treatment? (Yes, I'm looking for references to extend some articles.)

Let there be two teams, Acorn and Beetroot.

Acorn scores 1:0 in the 21st minute. Beetroot equalizes to 1:1 in the 40th minute, and scores another goal in the 47th minute. Acorn equalizes to 2:2 in the 50th minute.

After the regular playing time of 90 minutes, Acorn led the score for 19 minutes, and Beetroot for 3.

Acorn would be given the victory because it led for a longer time.

This method would have a very obvious advantage: It rewards scoring goals, and it rewards scoring goals early. Paragem (talk) 10:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No, sorry but that's a terrible idea. The last-minute equaliser or winner to save or win the match is one of the most exciting moments in football. Just ask Jude Bellingham. --Viennese Waltz 11:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)


 * One obvious way to exploit this would be for one team to score early and then play simply to keep possession of the ball rather than score any more goals; it can be very difficult for the opposition to win the ball if no risks are being taken with it – see Running out the clock. This would be very boring for all concerned, and is very unpopular with spectators when employed as a tactic. In the past, the Laws of the Game have been amended several times to try to minimise time-wasting during play.
 * Hoping for a win in a penalty shootout (rather than by playing better over 90 or 120 minutes) is a very unreliable tactic, as even the best players can miss penalties. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.226.178 (talk) 15:15, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Indeed, Cristiano Ronaldo, "the top goalscorer of all time", failed to score in a penalty shootout the other night, resulting in Portugal's elimintation from the Euro 2024. Alansplodge (talk) 18:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Not quite, he failed to score on a penalty in regular time in the previous round against Slovenia, but Portugal still won on penalties. They then lost to France on penalties in the quarter finals, but Ronaldo was successful on his shot in that shootout - two of his teammates missed to give France the win. Xuxl (talk) 19:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, thanks. Alansplodge (talk)

Seton Academy: Join the Pack! & The Café Terrace and Its Goddesses English dub
Will there be any future plans to have both animes release in english dub? 172.13.193.84 (talk) 15:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)


 * See the responses to your previous query above. If currently there are plans for such future releases, it might be possible to find published references to them (and maybe a reader of this might want to go and look for them), but nobody can know now if someone in the future is going to make plans, which is what you've asked. See What Wikipedia is not.
 * Since both of these are Japanese properties, you might have more success asking at the Japanese-language Wikipedia, where everyone will be able to read Japanese sources – not many people who respond here at the English-language Wikipedia can do so. {The poster formerly known as 87/81.230.195} 151.227.226.178 (talk) 06:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 8 =

Reaction of Janis Joplin on Jimi Hendrix' death?
Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin were friends, and they died within 16 days. But is there any known reaction of Joplin on Hendrix' death? I don't find anything on the web, but I still hope that something may have been recorded. --KnightMove (talk) 07:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Presumably she was saddened by his death. What else might you expect as an answer? Shantavira|feed me 08:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I imagine he's expecting some referenced quotes from her on the matter, which seems like a reasonable question to me. --Viennese Waltz 08:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Indeed... or, as number-two choice, also third-person accounts reporting on her reaction. --KnightMove (talk) 09:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * A fairly thorough Google search found nothing useful. As she died shortly after Hendrix, it seems likely that nobody knows. Alansplodge (talk) 13:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 10 =

About the scene in Good Burger 2
In one scene of Good Burger 2, where Ed and Dexter found out that their old enemy, Kurt has a sister who wants revenge on them for ruining her family's legacy, Dexter should have said "Well your brother deserved it, because he's been adding dangerous, but illegal chemicals in the meat supply without knowing about the adverse side-effects it'll have on people." 172.13.193.84 (talk) 16:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * What's your question? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * And how would that have been funny? It is a comedy film (I gather). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.82.201 (talk) 15:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * There are more movies that could do with a script rewrite. In Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery, when Austin Powers finds out that Dr. Evil plans to to drill a nuclear warhead into the Earth's core and trigger volcanic eruptions worldwide, he should have told him, "Your plan is dangerous and unethical; people may get hurt." --Lambiam 21:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There is one practice of the analysis of artwork in which you would emphasize that the movie poster seems to be deliberately if technically blurring the word "Austin" into a possible "Austim", whatever the purpose of the trickery if there's one there must exist a theory explaining that unethical processes could not warned against in the course of the intrigue. --Askedonty (talk) 22:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 11 =

Don't Ever Talk to Clocks
I'm looking for information about the 1964 TV Movie titled Don't Ever Talk to Clocks because I'm wanting to creat a Wikipedia page for it but I can't find any sources that show this movie or any articles that show if the movie has survived. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 18:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * No sources -> no article. The great majority of TV movies aren't notable. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * so there's no information about this TV Play Matthew John Drummond (talk) 14:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It doesn't look like it. It's listed in the filmography of its main actor Peter Sallis, but no other information seems to be available. It may well be lost. --Viennese Waltz 14:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The IMDb has some info, but very little: . Since we don't recognize this as a reliable source, this is not immediately helpful. But perhaps it gives a handle on finding sources such as newspaper reviews. --Lambiam 20:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Here is one reliable source, found by using IMDb info as search terms. No in-depth coverage, but it is a start. Using "Don't Ever Talk to Clocks" as a search term on the RTÉ Photographic Archive you get more hits, such as one revealing that Peter Collinson wrote an article about this TV movie for the RTV Guide of 14 February 1964. It will not be easy to dig up a copy, but perhaps the RTÉ keeps archived copies of their guide. --Lambiam 20:18, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * When you say dig up a copy are you referring to an article about the tv play Matthew John Drummond (talk) 13:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I found just one reference in Newspapers.com (pay site), just a TV listing with no description. On Feb 18, 1964, on a channel called Eire Television, at 8:50 (presumably P.M.) Liverpool Daily Post (Merseyside ed.), p.3. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:48, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 12 =

Rock concert
Behind the band, in the film of Roger Waters' In the Flesh – Live concert, is the usual back-projection screen. During the bitterly sardonic song "The Bravery of Being Out of Range", the view through a periscope, with azimuth graticule clearly visible, is thrown on the screen. I expected the General Belgrano to hove into view, Waters having been an outspoken critic of Thatcher and the Falklands War, but instead it's a (presumably manned) oil rig, which promptly (and spectacularly) explodes. Did this represent a real event? Doug butler (talk) 00:04, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The actual clip from the concert film is here, but I don't see any back projections, just a still of some men sitting at a bar. --Viennese Waltz 07:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Could be a reference to the Piper Alpha explosion near Scotland, 1988. PiusImpavidus (talk) 07:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Isn't the submarine attack during Perfect Sense? DuncanHill (talk) 10:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You're right, of course. Doug butler, you got the song wrong.  That said, the clip from "Perfect Sense" is here (at about the 6'30" mark). An oil rig is shown, but it doesn't explode. --Viennese Waltz 10:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Mea culpa — jumping to conclusions based on faulty memory. Thanks for that. It was a mighty film though; have to drag it out again. Doug butler (talk) 11:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Aaarrggghhhh. Heave, blast ye. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Crying Down the Lane
I trying to find information about the 1962 TV Mini Series titled Crying Down the Lane. I'm also trying to find out weather if the tv show has survived or is now lost. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 14:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There is an entry for it on IMDb, here.
 * Note that for the purposes of creating a Wikipedia Article, Wikipedia does not consider IMDb to be a Reliable source because (like Wikipedia) its contents are user-generated. Obviously this does not apply if you're merely pursuing an interest. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.82.201 (talk) 07:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm also trying to find if the series is lost or has survived Matthew John Drummond (talk) 13:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 13 =

The Heir of Skipton
I'm locking for information to do with the 1954 TV Mini Series titled The Heir of Skipton. I'm also trying to find where if the show is now lost or has managed to of survived. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 14:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you think you could maybe make one post with a list of all the TV series and films you are looking for, rather than make individual posts for each one? Thank you. --Viennese Waltz 16:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It would also be useful to include links to the Drafts you have created, so that we don't waste time tracking down sources that you have already included in them. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.82.201 (talk) 17:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I've created a draft for The Heir of Skipton so can you try and find information about the show or if it has survived or is now lost Matthew John Drummond (talk) 14:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Has the tv show survived or is it now lost Matthew John Drummond (talk) 05:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Lars von Trier's "Lookeys"
An article in the 'Guardian' notes that Lars von Trier included a contest for viewers of his film The Boss of It All. The first person to spot all seven of what he called "lookeys" in the film would win a cash prize. Surprisingly, there is no mention of this contest in our article. My question, though, is: was the prize ever claimed? --Viennese Waltz 17:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The website for the contest (lookey.dk) did not report a winner according to the Wayback Machine archives. When the domain name expired in 2012, the site was reqplaced with what appears to be an advertisement for vacationing in Ireland. Lars did not appear to mention Lookeys in future films and the lookey website does not mention any other films. Further, the lookey website does not explain how to claim the prize. So, assuming that somebody did solve the puzzle, what next? Perhaps the solution to the puzzle was the method of claiming the prize. Checking multiple interviews through 2006 and 2007, Lars only mentioned lookeys in 2006 interviews. Every mention in 2007 was a reference to interviews in 2006. Then, it was forgotten. 75.136.148.8 (talk) 12:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Whenever I caught my maths teacher making a mistake, they'd say, "It did that to check if you're paying attention." My theory is that von Trier invented this notion of "lookeys" so that when someone spotted an error in the movie he could say, "It's not an error, it' a lookey!". --Lambiam 15:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Rattigan's Cause Célèbre
According to our article Cause Célèbre "is a 1975 radio play, and the final play by the English author Terence Rattigan. It was inspired by the trial of Alma Rattenbury and her teenage lover in 1935 for the murder of her third husband Francis Rattenbury and first broadcast by the BBC on 27 October 1975. Alma was played by Diana Dors." Do we know on which BBC radio station it was broadcast (Radio 4 seems to me to be most likely, but Radio 3 is of course possible), does a recording of the radio play survive, and if so where could one listen to it? Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 21:28, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * It was re-broadcast in 1981 on Radio 4, according to this. Mikenorton (talk) 22:24, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Available as part of a 13 play collection on Audible here. Mikenorton (talk) 22:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It was apparently on Radio 4 to quote from the BBC Year Book for 1977 (page 29), "The many other playwrights whose work was broadcast on Radio 4 include Ibsen, Chekhov, Noel Coward, Mustapha Matura, Bill Naughton and William Douglas - Home. One of the most interesting productions was Cause Célèbre, Sir Terence Rattigan's first play for radio, based on a Bournemouth murder case of the 1930s and with a cast headed by Diana Dors." Mikenorton (talk) 22:35, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 22:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 15 =

Parineti Hindi Tv
Angry 😡 How long Do We have To wait for Pari to Realise that Rajiv had Nothing to Do with her Atempted Murder etc?(117.213.239.81 (talk) 02:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC)).


 * As it clearly states at the top of this page We don't answer requests for opinions, predictions or debate. Shantavira|feed me 08:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We don't have access to the scripts of future episodes of Parineeti; for all we know they may even not yet have been written. Keeping the audience in suspense is a major trick in the scriptwriters' book for ensuring continued high ratings. I'm so sorry that the uncertainty makes you angry. May I recommend, for your peace of mind, that you switch to watching serials that do not involve murder plots. --Lambiam 09:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I am 😡 Because I am Unable to Sleep Peacefully because When is Dumb Director going to Tell Dumb Neeti to Remember that Dam DNA 🧬 Evidence can Prove that Pari & Parvati are Same etc? 49.205.118.129 (talk) 13:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Director does not tell Actors. Actors follow Script. Script is wriiten by Smart Scriptwriters. Smart Scriptwriters keep Dumb Audience in Suspense. Dumb Audience keeps watching. Smart Audience finds Something Better to do. --Lambiam 15:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * 1. 😡 You still did not answer my question about how I can sleep peacefully etc?
 * 2. I want director to apologise right now for dam delay etc? 49.205.118.129 (talk) 18:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The only question you asked was, "How long Do We have To wait". The Reference desk is not a forum for debate. Apparently, you do not understand the role of the director. You may as well demand an apology from your TV set. --Lambiam 20:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * 😡 I do Not care Etc.
 * I want Director to Apologise here Now if Director has Guts to Do it Ok etc?????(49.205.118.129 (talk) 06:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC)).
 * The director is not reading this. I suggest you write to the showrunner.  If it is affecting your sleep, try ignoring television for a month. —Tamfang (talk) 23:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * 😡 Its imposibl to ignore That Dumb Tv Program.
 * wher Can I contact Show-runner etc?(49.205.118.129 (talk) 04:30, 19 July 2024 (UTC)).

= July 16 =

Australian Rules Football Netball
I'm really confused about Eastern Football Netball League. What is meant by "netball" here? That article rather unhelpfully says they added "Netball" to the name "recognising netball as a key part of the league structure", but says nothing else at all about netball. Does "netball" just mean netball (the throwing-based court sport), or is "netball" a name for some variant of Australian rules football (that article says nothing about nets or netball)? If it's the former, I guess this means that the sports clubs operate both an aussie-rules team and a netball team (in a manner like a multi-sports club)? -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 10:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It is referring to the game of netball, very similar to basketball. On the EFNL website, you will find teams and schedules for football games and, separately, netball games. You will also find the current rulebooks for each. 12.116.29.106 (talk) 13:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * What has Australian football got to do with netball? It's like if the NFL and the WNBA were to merge. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It's long confused me, and I live where this crazy thing exists. -- Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  14:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Maybe the netball promoters couldn't afford to create their own league? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * A similar dichotomy exists in the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club, the two sports being only connected by a requirement for some level grass. Alansplodge (talk) 17:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The other connection being with the "idle rich". Speaking of dichotomies, I'm reminded of the Toronto Cricket, Skating and Curling Club. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The really rich had the space and staff for their own croquet lawns, the club was for well-to-do suburbanites. Alansplodge (talk) 10:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * There's a "Miscellaneous Sporting Club" in Botswana. -- Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  15:55, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * But The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society was an accident. -- Verbarson talkedits 21:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * In the 19th century, amateur Multi-sport clubs became popular in Britain, and thence spread to other countries, such as France. Some well-known professional single-sport teams began as part of such clubs, one example being the (currently-named) Racing 92 Rugby club, originally part of the still extant Racing Club de France, which also gestated Racing Club de France Football. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.67.235 (talk) 10:26, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Football Netball cubs exist in a lot of country towns in the parts of Australia where Australian football is popular. They are a pooling of resources to support both sports. The men play football. The ladies play netball. Lots of juniors play both sports too .it's a social club for the whole family. The final sentence of the OP's question has it pretty right. HiLo48 (talk) 11:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 17 =

Who is the female dancer in the video of New Order's "Tutti Frutti"?
In the video of New Order's "Tutti Frutti" there's a young woman playing a dancer who appears throughout the video and is a central character in it. She's obviously the main dancer. When there's dancing the camera is centered on her, although there's usually a few other female dancers around her. She has long brown hair. Despite her importance in the video I could find nothing about her at the usual places (Imdb, etc.) Various AI assistants I've asked return nothing. Do you know of other sources for information about this video? Or can you recognize the woman? For example she's at 1m08-1m13, 1m42-2m09, etc. 178.51.74.75 (talk) 00:36, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This site names one Katja Škofic. (Google Translate: The group New Order recorded the video for their single Tutti Frutti in the premises of TV Slovenija, in which, in addition to the Italian actor Ricky Tognazzi, the Slovenian dancer and actress Katja Škofic appears.)--Wrongfilter (talk) 15:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Billboard's charts
What are the links to Billboard's Digital Song Sales Chart and Billboard's Country Digital Song Sales Chart for the first week of October 2023? Thanks. Bob K31416 (talk) 15:50, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Digital songs for first week of October 2023 and Country songs. Billboard lets you pick the week you want to look at and is free access. Matt Deres (talk) 15:28, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Very helpful. I was looking for a cover of "I Won't Back Down". Using your links as a starting point, I found it for the week of Oct 14, 2023 for Digital Song Sales at #10  but not for Country Digital Song Sales (#6 was the supposed place). Bob K31416 (talk) 18:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * For country, I think I found what I was looking for. It looks like the country link in your message is for "Hot Country Songs", which apparently is different from "Country Digital Song Sales" (see p. 8). At the latter is the "I Won't Back Down" cover at #6. Bob K31416 (talk) 06:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 19 =

draft declined
I have drafted an article named Last drop that has been declined. Please help me. Pratap Keshari Das (talk) 18:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about Draft:Last Drop? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If you don't understand the explanation in the decline notice, you should click the "Ask us a question" blue link in the draft decline message, to ask at the AfC help desk. RudolfRed (talk) 01:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The implied question is, "Can you please help me find sources to establish the notability of this film"? (In particular, sources with significant coverage of the topic, not mere mentions, but per Notability (films) a major award would also do.) --Lambiam 10:18, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There are also various problems with the verbiage in the article. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As long as the text is understandable and does not violate policy, this should not an issue for reviewers deciding whether to accept or decline a submitted draft. But you're welcome to improve it as you see fit. --Lambiam 20:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * "...ingeniously uses a simple idea—a leaking tap – to deliver a profound message about water conservation. Through its minimalist approach." That sounds like it was lifted from a movie review somewhere. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Can you prove this? If not, it is skirting very close to calling the editor either incapable of writing a cohesive, comprehensible sentence or a flat-out plagiarist. Maineartists (talk) 12:25, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * "Last Drop" ingeniously uses a simple premise - a leaking tap - to deliver a profound message about water conservation. Reviews: Last Drop - IMDb Alansplodge (talk) 11:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 21 =

For the Sake of Appearance
Do any of you guys know any information about the 1973 tv series titled For the Sake of Appearance. I'm wanting to find information about the show because I'm creating a draft for it and I want to know if the show has survived so can any of you send me the links here. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 12:52, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Genome listing Nanonic (talk) 12:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)