Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 May 7



Template:Anime conventions in North America

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was Keep. There is a clear guideline that categories, lists and navboxes are complementary to one another, not conflicting alternatives. While there is established precedent for deleting navboxes that are extremely large or so poorly defined that they could grow indefinitely, the scope of this template is within the boundaries of what is normally accepted. Therefore, I have given little weight to arguments that this template should be deleted in favor of a list or category, which is the primary deletion argument in the discussion. RL0919 (talk) 20:35, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Delete Far too many links to be useful; it comes ridiculously close to simply replicating List of anime conventions. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 07:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. — 「 ダイノ ガイ  千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 07:26, 7 May 2010 (UTC)


 * So ... what are you proposing? Splitting it up somehow? —Quasirandom (talk) 13:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * To delete it. Sorry, I've been inactive on WP for too long. =P — as 67.58.229.153 (talk) (what's this?) 19:41, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Definitely Keep. It really doesn't look all that big, (in fact, I think it's actually the optimum size for an average template), and part of the idea of having templates is so that you can put them directly into articles. You can't really do that with a full-fledged article. Either way, I've decided to link the title page to the stated List of anime conventions article, so that it would essentially become a supplement to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vgmddg (talk • contribs) 22:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what templates you usually look at, but the average size for animanga templates[Link fixed -- G.A.S talk |undefined] is nowhere near what's in this one, and even where they approach this size, the links are split up between different groups. This template simply provides the reader with a wall of text/blue. This template's function is better served by the list and the associated category. — as 67.58.229.153 (talk) (what's this?) 16:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, as navboxes go overall, this isn't overly large, and it should be quite useful for navigating between the conventions that it links. Navboxes make navigation more convenient than lists or categories can; I don't see how this is different from any other navbox.  Nyttend (talk) 01:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, but fix up, I like the idea of having diffrent sections of the united states put in to make it appear neater (Northeast, midwest ect...). Also per the reasoning above, rather than going back to one page to goto the other links it is just as easy to have a nav box for them all. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:17, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - per Dinoguy, plus it would be better as a category. In addition, other than being in North America and being about anime, those conventions, for the most part, have little in common. If that is the criteria for templates, we could have stuff like Template:Role-playing video games produced in the United States. 陣 内 Jinnai 02:33, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * How can making things more hard to navagate be good for wikipedia? I feel putting things into categories can just as easily be applied to the template. I disagree with your statement as well, anime conventions have video gaming rooms and cosplay in common as well as panels. I can also suggest an article be made: Anime Conventions In North America and put some history of anime conventions and how they got to North America. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:43, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.