Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 July 3



Template flags Southeast Asian Games

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Previous relisting generated no new commentary, so another one seems unproductive. Appears there are broader technical issues than can be resolved in one TfD of a subset of the affected templates. Opabinia regalis (talk) 01:43, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * FlagSEAGathlete
 * FlagSEAGteam
 * FlagSEAPathlete
 * FlagSEAPteam

These templates are no need and not used in the Southeast Asian Peninsular Games and Southeast Asian Games have merged to flag and name of a country of Southeast Asian Games (new) has been provided: flagSEAGF (new), flagSEAGFteam (new), flagSEAGFathlete (new), flagSEAGFmedalist (new). Thank you! Boyconga278 (talk) 21:07, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Why did you create a whole string of templates without discussion with others? You are aware how many articles are affected as a result of your unilateral decisions?Huaiwei (talk) 05:22, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Question: Why are we creating flag icon templates that are specific to the Southeast Asian Games -- are these not completely redundant/duplicative of generic flag icon templates that do exactly the same thing? I think we need to notify WikiProject Flag Template of this discussion.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:04, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem entirely redundant as they're designed to simplify linking to the "country at games" article set. The forebears Template:FlagIOCathlete/Template:FlagIOCmedalist don't provide that functionality for other games; see for example Template:FlagCGFmedalist for linking to Commonwealth Games team articles. Template:FlagIOC2medalist seems to allow a broader function which may overlap with the above ones
 * We need to balance desire for a combined functionality for each games while avoiding the need to pipe in the games edition 50+ times on the same page for the template. Given that the results pages that these are used on tend to have a common format (e.g. Swimming at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Men's 4 × 100 metre medley relay), I think we might be able to achieve decent results by string functions on the page title. If we remove the title elements preceding the "at the" and anything after "–" then we can automatically know the year and the games of the intended link, while still allowing manual input of those bits of data if given in a parameter. I've started a basic template to fulfil this function at FlagGamesMedalist. This could probably supersede some other templates too, like Template:FlagATHCHathlete. SFB 18:17, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought about doing something similar a little while ago, but another issue is with using the IOC code to produce an older flag or country name. Templates in the Country name IOC alias series expect the games to be part of the second positional parameter; we'd have to modify all 200-odd of those templates to extract the date and set up year ranges. The whole series needs to be Luafied - and the sooner, the better. Alakzi (talk) 18:32, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

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Template:Arab Winter

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The result of the discussion was delete. —  Earwig   talk 08:20, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Arab Winter

Violation of WP:OR. This is an attempt to bypass consensus at Arab Winter which was reached a few months ago and in which this was discussed via RFC. The RFC was conclusive, see Talk:Arab Winter -  Cwobeel   (talk)  17:26, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as nom. -  Cwobeel   (talk)  17:22, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep or rename - the information in the template doesn't belong to the Arab Spring topic, as it was almost unanimously concluded that Arab Spring is over. The Arab Winter (or another name) refers to post Arab Spring developments.GreyShark (dibra) 07:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Greyshark09: the RFC at the Arab Winter article was conclusive. You don' get to bypass consensus by creating a template with the same content... -  Cwobeel   (talk)  21:29, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * And your argument is exactly what WP:NOR tell us not to do. -  Cwobeel   (talk)  19:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Delete as an orphaned template. Whatever reasoning behind it, the template isn't being used and therefore is not needed. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:45, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ricky. Alakzi (talk) 00:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Principle CW-radar

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The result of the discussion was merge/delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:34, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Principle CW-radar

Only used in one article, info can be transcluded there The Banner talk 14:58, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete inappropriate use of templates96.52.0.249 (talk) 00:30, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep this is just a clunky way to make an annotated image. They're not intended to be widely used; they just provide searchable, legible text superposed on an image that can be reused in other language wikis. Opabinia regalis (talk) 04:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Meh, it has been merged, so redirect I suppose. It's not so obtrusive in the article that it's worth keeping separate. I reject the general principle that annotated images must have multiple transclusions, but I'm not going to link any counterexamples because WP:BEANS. Opabinia regalis (talk) 07:06, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * indifferent, I simplified the code to use annotated image, and to only use the features which are in use. I don't really have a strong opinion concerning merging it with the article. Frietjes (talk) 23:14, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The template should be deleted now. Per WP:TMP, it should include "Wiki markup to be included on several pages via transclusion".  It is no longer used on any page and is not likely to be used on any other page.96.52.0.249 (talk) 09:25, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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Template:BiowebUW
<div class="boilerplate tfd vfd tfd-closed" style="background-color: #e3f9df; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
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The result of the discussion was keep. —  Earwig   talk 08:22, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * BiowebUW

Since this template is transcluded to a number of articles, I declined speedy deletion. The target web page of this template no longer exists. If somebody can find a new location for this web page, please do. Otherwise, this template probably should be deleted. Safiel (talk) 20:16, 3 July 2015 (UTC)


 * This seems to be used for more than one website. For instance, on Body cavity, the markup is:



while on Trochlear notch it is:



The page at bioweb.uwlax.edu/APlab/ leads us to [bioweb.uwlax.edu/aplab/Lab-Unit-05/Lab-05-12.html]; while bioweb.uwlax.edu/zoolab/ tells us:


 * "Zoo Lab has moved. Please visit www.uwlax.edu/biology/zoo-lab". Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:49, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * @ may have an opinion on this (they have worked previously on fixing our anatomy template set). --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:43, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for raising problem and notification. I'll exmine this. --Was a bee (talk) 11:15, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I fixed links by archive.org. Although there are new URL for the site, some pages are reconstructed in style which is difficult to link. So simply replaced by archive's link. --Was a bee (talk) 02:29, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
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Template:2009 International League season by team
<div class="boilerplate tfd vfd tfd-closed" style="background-color: #e3f9df; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
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The result of the discussion was delete. —  Earwig   talk 08:26, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 2009 International League season by team

No team articles exist and the only links are all to the same article. ...William 14:11, 3 July 2015 (UTC) Also propose deleting similar templaes for the same reason-
 * 1990 International League season by team
 * 1991 International League season by team
 * 1992 International League season by team
 * 1993 International League season by team
 * 1994 International League season by team
 * 1995 International League season by team
 * 1996 International League season by team
 * 1997 International League season by team
 * 1998 International League season by team
 * 1990 International League season by team
 * 2000 International League season by team
 * 2001 International League season by team
 * 2002 International League season by team
 * 2003 International League season by team
 * 2004 International League season by team
 * 2005 International League season by team
 * 2006 International League season by team
 * 2007 International League season by team
 * 2008 International League season by team


 * Delete all. As noted below, longstanding consensus that minor league teams' seasons are not notable enough for articles, with rare exceptions. The league season articles are therefore the only article likely to be created, and therefore no navbox is needed. oknazevad (talk) 15:53, 3 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete all - Red-link-palooza. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 06:35, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
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Template:2009 Pacific Coast League season by team
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G6 by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 2009 Pacific Coast League season by team

Navbox with just one link and the one article is at AFD. Long-time consensus is that minor league season articles aren't notable. ...William 14:04, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - no articles to navigate between. Alakzi (talk) 00:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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