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Template:Qualification for the 2018 Summer Youth Olympics Futsal tournament

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The result of the discussion was delete Without prejudice against future creation. It's too early to have such a template. (non-admin closure) Yashovardhan (talk) 04:09, 5 June 2017 (UTC) unnecessary template. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:22, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Qualification for the 2018 Summer Youth Olympics Futsal tournament
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Template:Jamel Simmons

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:06, 4 June 2017 (UTC) No directly related articles. WP:NENAN. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:55, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Jamel Simmons
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Template:Engvar

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The result of the discussion was Snow keep consensus is not going to change in one day (non-admin closure) P p p er y 19:02, 3 June 2017 (UTC) Near-universal disapproval of the underlying concept expressed at WP:Village pump (policy) Jc3s5h (talk) 17:22, 28 May 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 17:30, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Engvar
 * Speedy keep, misunderstanding of usage. The template is used to change infobox text depending on the language variant used in an article and has nothing to do with keeping multiple versions of articles. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
 * Keep. Serves established WP:ENGVAR. (Note: I am the creator of this template and its module. Was not notified btw ). -DePiep (talk) 20:20, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * THis is the difference:
 * The RfC is about having two articles (say in en-US and en-UK) simultaneously, for the reader to choose one local en language variant.
 * WP:ENGVAR is about having one article being in one en-variant language only (so, not mixing up en-US and en-UK spellings). This template supports this one-language-variant-only for templates (so that a template can follow the article's variant: using "colour" or "color" as the article does). -DePiep (talk) 19:36, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

to reply to me 04:50, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep, misunderstanding of usage. Double sharp (talk) 01:58, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep, this should be closed ASAP as this discussion is breaking the drug infoboxes. See modafinil for example. No longer breaking but definitely a useful template. Sizeofint (talk) 04:44, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I've noincluded the notice. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
 * Thanks. Sizeofint (talk) 04:56, 29 May 2017 (UTC)


 * speedy keep; per others this nomination seems not to understand what this template does. Brought here after seeing the notice in an article: for anyone else seeing the notice you might need to purge an article to clear it now it’s being noincluded.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 03:07, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Ccprobation

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:07, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Never used. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 16:44, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Ccprobation
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Template:Char

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The result of the discussion was move to userspace. feel free to tag it with db-user if you don't want it Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:13, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Only one transclusion in a user sandbox, should be userfied. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 16:35, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Char
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Template:H:lat
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The result of the discussion was move to userspace feel free to tag it with db-user if you don't want it Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:14, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Only 4 transclusions, none in article space. Should be userfied. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 16:35, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * I created this and the previous template, char, but I don't mind if they're deleted. — Eru·tuon 17:42, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Welcometestedit
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:14, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Largely a duplicate of Welcometest. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 16:32, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Substantialinfo
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Used on one user page. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 16:29, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:SRRFA
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Only used on one template, seems to be for a WikiProject that never really happened. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 16:16, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * SRRFA
 * I created this template and I support its deletion. Totally unused.  Part of an old defunct proposal. --<span style="display:inline-block;padding:0 .25em;border-bottom:2px solid #008;background: #f6f6f6;" title="aka halfak">EpochFail  (talk &bull; contribs) 15:30, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Orddate
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:21, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Only used in one article. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 16:13, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Fractional year
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:21, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Used on one page. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 16:13, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Evalp
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The result of the discussion was delete. redundant to #expr: Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:23, 4 June 2017 (UTC) No documentation, only three transclusions. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 16:09, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:CountryAbbr
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 5. (non-admin closure) Yashovardhan (talk) 04:12, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Country abbreviation
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Template:Noprotection
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Yashovardhan (talk) 04:13, 5 June 2017 (UTC) Only about 40 substitutions since 2006. This template seems very unnecessary since the information can be conveyed in the edit summary of a revert. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 15:53, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Vw
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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Uw-vandalism1. (non-admin closure) Yashovardhan (talk) 04:18, 5 June 2017 (UTC) Nonstandard user warning template, doesn't substitute correctly (leaves behind a parser function), mildly passive-aggressive language. Redirect to Uw-vandalism1. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 15:39, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Uw-npa1-sandbox
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:24, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Abandoned sandbox, correctly-named Uw-npa1/sandbox already exists. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 15:32, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:FIBA roster header1
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:05, 4 June 2017 (UTC) this is the same as. I have replaced it everywhere, so this wrapper is no longer need. Frietjes (talk) 15:20, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:SharedIP-LGL
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:27, 5 June 2017 (UTC) Only 3 transclusions. Replace with Shared IP edu. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 15:20, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * SharedIP-LGL
 * Delete and replace this with the standard EDU template on the three affected pages. I'm all for having separate templates if they serve an actual purpose, but this one does nothing that the standard EDU template doesn't. PCHS-NJROTC  (Messages)Have a blessed day. 19:47, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:SharedIPcolocation
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:26, 5 June 2017 (UTC) Only used on 4 user talk pages. Replace with Shared IP. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 15:17, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * SharedIPcolocation
 * Keep. Collocation providers are a distinct use-case; this was inspired by sharedIPEDU. KMF (talk) 16:27, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - This needs to be edited to include information about our open proxy policy, and it needs to be used more often. PCHS-NJROTC  (Messages)Have a blessed day. 20:15, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Declinedsd
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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn (non-admin closure) P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y 15:44, 28 May 2017 (UTC) Not in active use; transclusions of z2 show only 28 substitutions of this template since 2009. In addition, the substituted code contains a parser function without subst:, which is not mentioned in the documentation. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 15:08, 28 May 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 15:40, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Declinedsd
 * Keep. Regardless of usage up this point in time, this template serves a valuable purpose to lessen biting newcomers that has no equivalent. But as to usage, this has only recently been added to the completely overhauled NPP, at New pages patrol, so it may become more used. It is also not insignificant that we are in the midst a crisis right now, with NPP barely functioning, and the hole growing ever deeper. If this is addressed—our gatekeeper functions are rehabilitated in some manner and we get a new cadre of NPP'ers, who actually read the page and follow its suggestions—its use should ramp up. As to the substitution issue not mentioned in the documentation, I simply do not know what you are talking about. I have created a number of Wikipedia highest use templates (including the z template series used for tracking it you mention) but I am not a coding wizard. Under usage in the documentation, the substitution issue is addressed, as far as I can see. Please clarify. Regardless, across all of our deletion processes, we generally do not delete pages, nor is it a proper basis to request deletion, because of some easily fixable issue.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:28, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Withdrawing nomination, will fix the substitution issue. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
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Template:2014 Asian Games Chinese Taipei women's basketball team roster
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:25, 5 June 2017 (UTC) duplicates Basketball at the 2014 Asian Games – Women. any other uses can be merged with the parent article. Frietjes (talk) 15:00, 28 May 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:48, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * 2014 Asian Games Chinese Taipei women's basketball team roster
 * 2014 Asian Games India women's basketball team roster
 * Delete and substitute in parent article if necessary. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
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Template:2014 Asian Games China men's basketball team roster
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC) duplicates Basketball at the 2014 Asian Games – Men. any other uses can be merged with the parent article. Frietjes (talk) 14:56, 28 May 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:48, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * 2014 Asian Games China men's basketball team roster
 * 2014 Asian Games Kuwait men's basketball team roster
 * 2014 Asian Games Maldives men's basketball team roster
 * 2014 Asian Games Mongolia men's basketball team roster
 * 2014 Asian Games Philippines men's basketball team roster
 * 2014 Asian Games Qatar men's basketball team roster
 * 2014 Asian Games Saudi Arabia men's basketball team roster
 * Delete and substitute in parent article if necessary. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
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Template:Verror
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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Uw-error. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:33, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Redundant to newer uw-series templates such as Uw-error; templates don't substitute properly. Some of these are transcluded, for some reason. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 14:50, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Blank
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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Uw-delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:25, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Redundant to the newer series of user warning templates such as Uw-delete1. Additionally, some of these templates do not substitute correctly and leave behind a parser function without the parameter subst:, which is not mentioned in any of their documentation. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 14:38, 28 May 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 15:44, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Comment. These do have some historical value as the predecessors to the current uw-series of templates. Is there a way to archive them or mark them as historical? – Uanfala (talk) 15:24, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirecting them should preserve the page histories well enough. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
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Template:Israel EuroBasket record
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:04, 4 June 2017 (UTC) single-use template, should be merged with the main article. Frietjes (talk) 13:46, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Israel EuroBasket record
 * Merge per nom. P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y 13:47, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Seems pretty straightforward. Smartyllama (talk) 20:33, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Profile KI
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The result of the discussion was move to userspace. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:01, 4 June 2017 (UTC) Unused template of no clear purpose. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:10, 28 May 2017 (UTC) We are likely to start using this template within the next few weeks. Right now there is a shift in communications officers at KI that slows down the process, but there is a team of researchers willing to start editing Wikipedia using this template soon. Olle Terenius (UU) (talk) 13:56, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Profile KI
 * delete, or move to userspace. Frietjes (talk) 13:59, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * @Olle Terenius (UU): Then move it to userspace, so that it can be used if needed. But what is this template actually for? -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:06, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:LangSwitch
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:14, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * LangSwitch

This template, though it is implemented using lua instead of wikitext (causing to decline my G4), still has the same problems it has when it was deleted in 2010, that is that is dependent on a non-existent MediaWiki message, and would be pointless even if it worked, as the English Wikipedia is (obviously) monolingual. P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y 12:43, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * speedy delete, nothing has changed from the last time this was deleted. Frietjes (talk) 14:00, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I tried to speedy delete this earlier as G4, but it was declined by saying that Content is entirely different; are you suggesting that we had Lua coding in 2010  P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y 14:01, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Frietjes, did you even look at the deleted content? G4 is for reposts, and unless you can prove that the template deleted in 2010 used the content used here, it is not a repost.  Hint: it didn't use Lua.  It used lots of "switch" and "if" conditional expressions.  Nyttend (talk) 20:45, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * This is not about reusing same old code (which I can not check). Same functionality, so same template, more so since the old Delete arguments are equally valid. -DePiep (talk) 09:45, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Same functionality, so is a restauration. -DePiep (talk) 09:45, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. Prinsipe Ybarro  ( Talk to me ) 08:16, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
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