Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 January 1



Template:Quantity/sandbox

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 16:08, 8 January 2022 (UTC) Unused cleanup template; it is called "Quantity/sandbox" but was never the sandbox of anything, so does not count as WP:G8 I think. User:GKFXtalk 23:04, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Quantity/sandbox
 * I disagree with the previous decliner and think G8 does apply, as this is a subpage of the nonexistent Template:Quantity. Regardless, now that we're here, delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:13, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:04, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Dart score

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 16:08, 8 January 2022 (UTC) Serves no reasonable functionality when the option to bold is to merely type 3. Clogs up and slows down the page, see 2022 PDC World Darts Championship for example. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:10, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Dart score


 * Keep Clogs up and slows down the page? Sorry for probably throwing an unnecessary fit but YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOING ANY OF THE EDITING ON THE PAGE, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH YOU HAVE CLOGGED THE PAGE UP! Mikey'Da'Man, Archangel (talk) 23:28, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Mikey'Da'Man, Archangel I have noincluded the TfD notice, that should have sorted it. User:GKFXtalk 23:34, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, please refrain from shouting, thanks. And also, please kindly point out the functionality or your disagreement is now pointless. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:59, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note caps is a symbolism of urgent disgust, not loud talking you call shouting. Take the dart score template; very simple to look and input (not that you would as you don't actually contribute to it). Then if it is not the template, there will be up to 78 apostrophes for the final alone. Think about that. Mikey'Da'Man, Archangel (talk) 04:29, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I am thinking about 78 apostrophes, and thinking about how it wasn't a problem last year, the year before that, or the year before that. It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:47, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Before the template was made... Mikey'Da'Man, Archangel (talk) 21:21, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment – Per NewPP limit report, the page 2022 PDC World Darts Championship took 8.8 seconds to resolve, and Dart score took about 2% of that for 493 transclusions. (By contrast, Template:PDCFlag took 75% of the total time.) Expansion report follows:

Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 7695.970     1 -total 79.41% 6111.147   497 Template:PDCFlag 29.51% 2270.975     4 Template:24TeamBracket 5.55% 426.776      1 Template:Infobox_individual_darts_tournament 5.41% 416.447      1 Template:Infobox 4.61% 355.009      3 Template:Reflist 3.54% 272.442     42 Template:Cite_web 3.08% 237.342     13 Template:Navbox 2.70% 207.446     41 Template:Flagicon 2.33% 179.134    493 Template:Dart_score


 * Not sure about what's meant by "clogging up", but the report confirms that Dart_score accounts for less time than any other template on the page, and an insignificant proportion of the total time. There may be other reasons to delete, but "slowing down the page" is not one of them. Mathglot (talk) 00:22, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. No valid deletion rationale has been provided. Template achieves one of the standard goals of a template, which is to provide a consistent presentation of information, as many sport results tables on Wikipedia bold the winner, and without it it is likely that the dash lengths would get inconsistent. User:GKFXtalk 07:37, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * When have "inconsistent dash lengths" ever been a problem in the past? It's a solution to a problem that doesn't actually exist. Consistent presentation of information is achieved by a manual of style, not by templates which sole purpose is to bolden text and add a dash! All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:39, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * If you really think that, then you don't look at the rugby. Correcting dash lengths is a thorny pain... Mikey'Da'Man, Archangel (talk) 21:23, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. per above. Although two issues come to mind. 1. "Dart score" seems a poor name since the template contains nothing that is specific to darts. "Sport score" or similar would be better IMO. 2. Is the spaced en dash correct? Doesn't MOS:ENBETWEEN apply, in which case an unspaced one should be used. Nigej (talk) 10:13, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as clearly useful. The nominator appears to claim that editors always flawlessly insert bold formatting and the correct dash and spacing, both of which are trivial to refute. This clever and simple template checks which score is higher, automatically bolds the higher score, and provides the correct dash and spacing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - as the creator - it guarantees correct spacing, correct dashing, cell alignment, nowrapping, and lastly, bolds the winner. It certainly is not specific to darts, but may be more specific that "sports", but I'll leave that situation up to someone else. DLManiac (talk) 19:34, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep – per above. Regarding possible rename to Template:Sports score or other name, that seems like a good idea, but one thing to investigate before going ahead with that, is situations where scores are reported lower-number-first. One could possibly add an optional param yes or yes or some such to cover those situations. Tennis, for example, reports server first for a particular game, and match winner first for lost sets within a won match. Maybe other sports are like this as well? Something to think about going forward. Mathglot (talk) 00:45, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Callista Clark

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 17:57, 8 January 2022 (UTC) Unnecessary template box since it does not offer any additional aid to navigation. The three articles listed sufficiently link to and from one another already. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:47, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Callista Clark
 * Delete per nom. No use for navigation which is the only purpose of a navbox. Nigej (talk) 19:58, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:10, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:2012 Lone Star Conference Women's Volleyball standings

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:27, 8 January 2022 (UTC) Unused template, with zero score data and the parent article, 2012 Lone Star Conference women's volleyball season, was deleted last year. Gonnym (talk) 09:47, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * 2012 Lone Star Conference Women's Volleyball standings
 * Delete per nom. Left behind after previous deletion. Nigej (talk) 19:59, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:SMS lines

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:27, 8 January 2022 (UTC) Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Seoul Metropolitan Subway. Gonnym (talk) 09:29, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * SMS lines
 * SMS stations
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:02, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Monterrey Metro style

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC) Now unused after I've replaced the several usages of it with Module:Adjacent stations/Metrorrey. Gonnym (talk) 09:28, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Monterrey Metro style
 * Delete per nom. Unused. Nigej (talk) 20:00, 1 January 2022 (UTC)#
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