Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 October 14



Template:Alcalde of Valdivia

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 October 22. ✗ plicit  02:03, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Alcalde_of_Valdivia
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Template:Unions of Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 October 22. ✗ plicit  02:03, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Unions_of_Bangladesh
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Template:Castrol International Rally

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 October 22. ✗ plicit  02:03, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Castrol_International_Rally
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Template:Sub judice

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:16, 24 October 2022 (UTC) This template was last nominated for deletion a year ago. , in closing, said there was no prejudice to a future nomination once we could evaluate how the merged template was performing.
 * Sub judice

And as far as the template's performance goes… literally nothing has changed in the wording or the use of the template in the past year. Last year, demonstrated that over half of the uses of the template were almost certainly inappropriate, and not only does that proportion hold up, many of those same articles still have the template.

As I mentioned in the previous TfD, "over the years, the needle has swung worryingly towards censoring of embarrassing information in the public record about public individuals, both on- and off-Wikipedia", and this template serves primarily to scare editors into not editing. Same as it ever was, really; the template was first used to dissuade editors from discussing the inclusion of a Catholic cardinal's conviction for child sexual offences.

If there are actual legal issues with editing, then as I said a year ago, that's for the WMF to deal with themselves, not for drive-by editors to effectively make legal threats. Sceptre (talk) 18:58, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Additional comment from nominator: I didn't mention this in the original nomination as it slipped my mind, but I also fear this template is a BLP disaster waiting to happen. For a hypothetical case, take the Conservative MP arrested for rape a few months ago. Because of the small sample space, it's very easy to deduce who said MP is based on the information provided – a process known as "jigsaw identification". However, tagging the talk page for said MP's article would in itself be jigsaw identification. Rather than head off contempt of court at the pass, anyone adding it might find they're doing it themselves. Sceptre (talk) 23:26, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Clyde State your case (please use&#32; on reply) 21:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: April 2019 TFD, closed as Keep. October 2021 TFD, closed as Merge related templates and No Consensus to delete the main template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. The risk to our editors of legal action seems low enough that the chilling effect of these banners (which seem to go against the spirit of WP:NOLEGALTHREATS) and the effort of placing them doesn't seem worth it to me. – Novem Linguae (talk) 12:14, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as this clearly only inflames whatever BLP issues this is supposed to combat. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:14, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Valleilijn Stoptrein color

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC) replaced by Module:adjacent stations/Valleilijn Stoptrein Frietjes (talk) 20:56, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Syntus Stoptrein color

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:20, 18 October 2022 (UTC) replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/Syntus Stoptrein Frietjes (talk) 20:50, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Nigerian-film-cinema-stub

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:44, 21 October 2022 (UTC) Incorrectly formed and connected to a permcat; redundant to properly formed Nigeria-film-stub. Her Pegship (?) 21:11, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Nigerian-film-cinema-stub


 * Hi senior. Thanks for the clean-up you do in crushing redundant templates.
 * This template is for stubs in Category:Cinema of Nigeria and was deliberately created for that purpose while are for stubs in Category:Nigerian film stubs.
 * Cheers. Danidamiobi (talk) 21:24, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:43, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * delete per nom, redundant to Nigeria-film-stub. Frietjes (talk) 23:17, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Nigerian-film-director-stub

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:44, 21 October 2022 (UTC) Incorrectly formed and connected to a permcat; redundant to properly formed Nigeria-film-director-stub Her Pegship (?) 20:54, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Nigerian-film-director-stub


 * Hi @Pegship,
 * Thanks for the exemplary work you put into cleaning up.
 * This template is for stubs in Category:Nigerian film directors and was deliberately created for that purpose while are for stubs in Category:Nigerian film stubs.
 * Keep being awesome. Danidamiobi (talk) 21:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Stubs in already have a stub template, Nigeria-film-director-stub, as mentioned above, which places articles into the . There's no need for Template:Nigerian-film-director-stub, which places articles into a category which is not a stub category. Her Pegship (?) 22:53, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:43, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * delete per nom, redundant to Nigeria-film-director-stub. Frietjes (talk) 23:17, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:NS Hispeed color
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:19, 18 October 2022 (UTC) replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/NS International Frietjes (talk) 20:35, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:BE-Regional lines
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:17, 18 October 2022 (UTC) replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/National Railway Company of Belgium Frietjes (talk) 16:30, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:BE-S color
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:17, 18 October 2022 (UTC) replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/National Railway Company of Belgium Frietjes (talk) 16:24, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Country data Jerusalem
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 October 21. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:44, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:BE-L color
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC) replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/National Railway Company of Belgium Frietjes (talk) 15:59, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:15, 18 October 2022 (UTC) replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/National Railway Company of Belgium Frietjes (talk) 15:48, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Economy of Singapore
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:41, 21 October 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. It appears that the relevant articles have standardized on using Singapore topics (a navbox) instead of this sidebar. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:22, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Economy of Singapore
 * Delete A navbox already exists for this subject. Template:Economy of Singapore navbox. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Draft article/Opt-out
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:41, 21 October 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. Only one incoming link, from a proposal that closed as "no consensus" in 2018. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:16, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Draft article/Opt-out
 * Delete seems useless now, old mailing list. — xaosflux  Talk 14:24, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:43, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Trumpchi vehicles
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:40, 21 October 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. It appears that Trumpchi automobile timeline, which contains the same links, is preferred. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:20, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Trumpchi vehicles

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I had forgotten to add this template to related articles when I restored/updated it and am currently working on expanding it to further distinguish it from the timeline. <b style="color:white">Waddles</b> <b style="color:white">🗩</b> <b style="color:white">🖉</b> 00:25, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Not the same as the timeline template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:18, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Age-ymwd
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. ✗ plicit  02:29, 21 October 2022 (UTC) Redundant template used in one user page. Replace with the canonical template and delete or redirect. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:17, 27 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  01:08, 5 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:08, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Age-ymwd
 * I'm not sure I agree with that definition of a redundant template. A near-identical call syntax w.r.t. the parent template would perhaps count as redundant in my view, but in this case the syntax is significantly simpler than using the parent template. By that logic, wouldn't e.g. nutshell be redundant with mbox? The fact that it doesn't get much use is an orthogonal concern (but then again, I'd counter that with WP:NOTPAPER and WP:PERF). Of course I'm biased in this, but IMHO there's no significant benefit in deleting the template, compared to the loss of convenience doing so would cause. --Waldyrious (talk) 18:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
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