Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 January 7



Template:Zion covenant

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 15:39, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Navbox with no main article, only one blue link, and one transclusion. Created in 2010. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Zion covenant
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No navigational benefit. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:34, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:WelcomeVP

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 15:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Undocumented template used in two user talk pages, linking to defunct tool. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:20, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * WelcomeVP
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:33, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Veri policy

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 15:45, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Outdated (2006), undocumented welcome template that is transcluded in fewer than ten user talk pages. This should be substed and deleted in favor of the 150+ welcome templates linked from Welcoming committee/Welcome templates. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:16, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Veri policy
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:36, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:VBW2013-14LNSVF3

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 15:48, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Single-use article content, a table with no template parameters, documentation, or categories. Subst into article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * VBW2013-14LNSVF3
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:37, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Vandalwatch

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 16:12, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Template from 2006 with just one transclusion. We have migrated away from this sort of template to uw-* warning templates. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:08, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Vandalwatch
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:38, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:VTSenateSuccession box
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:16, 15 January 2023 (UTC) This is a custom wrapper for the s-ttl family, which makes it more difficult to edit the article. Used in just one article. Use the standard succession box templates instead. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:58, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * VTSenateSuccession box
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:X86-ABI
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:17, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Single-article content with no template parameters, documentation, categories, or parameters. Subst into article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:39, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * X86-ABI
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:38, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Preußen-1892
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:17, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Unused. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:16, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Preußen-1892
 * Preußen-1803
 * Delete per nom. Redundant to Flagicon templates. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:39, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Golden Calf for Best Leading Role
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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:18, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Redudant to Template:Golden Calf for Best Actor and Template:Golden Calf for Best Actress. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:05, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Golden Calf for Best Leading Role


 * Keep: The Golden Calf for Best Actor and Golden Calf for Best Actress awards were not awarded in 2021 and 2022. Instead, these awards were discontinued and the award is now called Golden Calf for Best Leading Role (gender neutral). It would be incorrect to reuse the old templates as these people did not receive these awards. - Simeon (talk) 20:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a new award. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:07, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Largest cities of Algeria
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2023 January 15. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:29, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Largest_cities_of_Algeria
 * Largest_cities_of_Guatemala
 * Largest_cities_of_Mexico
 * Largest_cities_of_South_Sudan
 * Largest_urban_areas_of_Oceania
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Template:Sweden Solar System
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:25, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Single-article content with no template parameters, documentation, or categories. Subst into article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:55, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Sweden Solar System
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:41, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:SPCProb
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:28, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Single-article content. Two small wikitables with no template parameters. Subst into article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:53, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * SPCProb
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:42, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:CthuRefBox
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:26, 14 January 2023 (UTC) No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. Was possibly used at, or to link to, Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography, deleted in 2019. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:20, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * CthuRefBox
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No longer needed. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:43, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Abusecontact
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:26, 14 January 2023 (UTC) No transclusions. Marked as "no known purpose" for at least seven years. See also: this TFD for Template:AR talk, and the Abuse response page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:17, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Abusecontact
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:44, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Independent MPs of New Zealand
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:25, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Unused and only one link. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:02, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Independent MPs of New Zealand
 * Delete per nom. No navigational benefit. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:45, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:ARFU Women's Rankings
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:25, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Both unused. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:56, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ARFU Women's Rankings
 * ARFU Rankings
 * Delete Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:52, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:ARP MP
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:25, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Unused and just a link. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:53, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ARP MP
 * Delete per nom. No use having this in a template, use the link directly. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:23, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Companies operating former North American railroad lines
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:25, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Unused cat header. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:52, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Companies operating former North American railroad lines
 * Delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Eurozone map left
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:25, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Unused and redundant to Template:Eurozone labelled map and Template:Eurozone labelled map interior. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:45, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Eurozone map left
 * Delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:26, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Enlisted Ranks and Insignia of the United States Navy/E/Blank
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:27, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Unused. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Enlisted Ranks and Insignia of the United States Navy/E/Blank
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Template:FCA MP
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:25, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Unused and just a link to the Federal Council (Austria) article. Not needed. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:42, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * FCA MP
 * Delete per nom. No use having this in a template, use the link directly. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:27, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:FK Sinđelić Beograd squad
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:24, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Unused and only two links. Doubtful the rest of the list will have articles to pass notability. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:41, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * FK Sinđelić Beograd squad
 * delete per nom. Even though the template lacks proper update, the team seems to play in amateur level. Pelmeen10 (talk) 00:30, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 17:01, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - not needed. GiantSnowman 17:02, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:1954 Rugby League World Cup group stage ladder
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:51, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Unused. Substituted on 1954 Rugby League World Cup group stage. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:35, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 1954 Rugby League World Cup group stage ladder
 * Keep - Is used at the 1954 Rugby League World Cup page.Fleets (talk) 17:04, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It isn't. It was already substituted on the article. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:10, 8 January 2023 (UTC)


 * delete, already merged with the main article as WP:LST works fine here. Frietjes (talk) 15:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Country data Greater Portugal
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:51, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Unused. The corresponding article was deleted in 2020 because it was not notable, and the template now links to the article in Portuguese wikipedia. V27t (talk) 13:25, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Country data Greater Portugal
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:28, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Releases Red Hat Linux
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:54, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Single-use article content. Table with no template parameters, documentation, or categories. Subst into article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Releases Red Hat Linux
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:29, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Larger
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Large using whatever font-size declaration works in most browsers. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:30, 15 January 2023 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Larger with Template:Large.
 * Larger
 * Large
 * Big

According to Templates_for_discussion/Log/2022_January_10, "font-size: large" (currently used by large) does not work on all browsers. There's little need for multiple "large" sizes, so using the 110% from larger (or whatever number we want to pick) should be sufficient. It also makes no sense that "larger" is smaller than "large", given the usual sequence in English is "large", "larger", "largest". Beland (talk) 03:08, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * "font-size: large" (currently used by large) does not work on all browsers is not strictly correct. The correct framing would be that it does not work on all browsers. Izno (talk) 03:18, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I assume by "browser dependent", then, Guy meant "results in a different size on different browsers" rather than "works or doesn't work depending on the browser"? -- Beland (talk) 20:31, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Izno (talk) 00:16, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect Template:Larger to Template:Large per the previous TFD. I would put a citation needed tag on the assertion/recollection from the previous TFD that IIRC, "font-size: large" is browser dependent. This MediaWiki page specifically recommends "font-size: large" as an update for obsolete code, and it also explains the relative sizing (although the size of "large" listed there, 129%, does not match my browser's relative rendering, which displays "large" text at 137%, so maybe we should pick a percentage for that reason; jumping from 110% to 137% is probably not desirable). Someone else should check my observations to see if yours match. Maybe we should merge big, large, and larger and render at 120%. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:27, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I have boldly added big to this discussion. I propose that we redirect Template:Larger and Template:Big to Template:Large and render them at 120% of the base page font size. The reason for "Template:Large" to be the canonical name is that it is the opposite of "Template:Small" (in CSS terms). Note: I have posted a link to this discussion at WP:VPT, so we may get some traffic. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:24, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge. Although there is a logic in "larger" (relative to parent) vs. "large" (large) in CSS, it does seem like there is prevailing sentiment that this terminology is confusing in the relevant context on Wikipedia, and I agree with the nominator that there's little need for multiple large sizes, and granular sizing can be achieved via template using Template:Font anyway. —Alalch E. 00:01, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect Larger and big can point to large. I think that if big is also involed in the discussion the option to change the size percentage with 2 might be nice. Overall no significant functionality benefit to keeping these all seperate so they might as well just become one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terasail (talk • contribs) 04:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect In lieu of the aforementioned templates resize can be used. Qwerty284651 (talk) 23:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge It seems rather confusing to have three differently named templates with the same purpose but different numbers, especially when one of those values is browser-dependant. User:GKFXtalk 00:08, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:First French families in Puerto Rico and two similar pages
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The result of the discussion was delete substituted into Irish immigration to Puerto Rico, French immigration to Puerto Rico, and Corsican immigration to Puerto Rico by author Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:46, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Single-article content with no template parameters (or documentation, or categories). Subst into article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:04, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * First French families in Puerto Rico
 * First Corsican families in Puerto Rico
 * Common Irish surnames in Puerto Rico
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:41, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:PR Nationalists incarcerated in 1950
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The result of the discussion was delete subsituted into Puerto Rican Nationalist Party revolts of the 1950s Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC) Simple single-article content with no template parameters. Subst into article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:46, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * PR Nationalists incarcerated in 1950
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Template:S.S. Akragas Città dei Templi
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:41, 14 January 2023 (UTC) only used on one page Frietjes (talk) 00:32, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * S.S. Akragas Città dei Templi
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 * Delete - not needed. GiantSnowman 12:22, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:41, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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