Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/The Beatles history

About this page
This page is for proposals about how to deal with the fork article History of the Beatles and other peripheral articles about the history of the Beatles and how/whether to merge them back into the main article, The Beatles. It also addresses issues of cruft and unsourced detail in all articles about the general history of The Beatles but in particular the main article.

Detailed discussion should be taken to the talk page.

"First step" proposal from kingboyk for merging the "History" article and section
1) Remove cruft and rubbish from the History section in this article 2) Salvage anything usable from History of the Beatles and merge it here (or into a sandbox article). 3a) If the resulting History section is too long, move the new version back out to History of the Beatles and leave a brief summary here OR 3b) Replace History of the Beatles with a redirect. --kingboyk 21:09, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

A supplementary idea from LessHeard vanU
Perhaps it should be considered editing the main article as a history with an introduction - using subheadings to signpost the more important developments and events - and link to every other relevant article? LessHeard vanU 21:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Overviews with liberal usage of main would be a good idea if we can't squeeze everything into one new article. That's really the intention behind the History of the Beatles fork I think, except that in this case it's failed spectacularly. (On a related note, I would actually like to see some new articles on the Beatles tours). --kingboyk 22:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree with LessHeard vanU. If the main page was an index page (book-form) with a short paragraph explaining the content, it would make it simpler, and easier to access. andreasegde 10:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Articles which might need to be merged into one or two high quality articles on The Beatles and their history
List all articles which are about the general history of The Beatles here. By removing duplicate material and radically refactoring the flagship article we might able to take some of these unloved articles into say two really high quality, featured candidate articles.


 * The Beatles
 * History of The Beatles
 * Beatlemania???
 * The Beatles' influence on popular culture???
 * Beatlesque???

Related discussion and articles

 * Involved article: The Beatles
 * Involved article: History of The Beatles
 * Article classification: History of The Beatles
 * Discussion: Ranking "The Beatles" article
 * AFD debate (old): Talk:History of the Beatles/delete

Action taken
I decided to be bold and nail this issue, on 2 November 2006. History of the Beatles was 47k, the History section of The Beatles was 30k. At current standards, The Beatles can stand being another 15k or so bigger. The fork has not worked and it was time to get rid of it.

The Beatles' influence on popular culture has already had a lot of work done on it, and replaced Beatlesque. Most but not all issues here have, then, been resolved. --kingboyk 14:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)