Wikipedia talk:Record charts

Billboard Perú
Hi everyone I wanted to share with you guys this link for Billboard Perú. In there you can find Hot 100 charts for both Peruvian artists and a combined Hot 100 as well. The top 10 are available for the public but subscribers can view the full list. FanDePopLatino (talk) 03:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I added it to the Wayback archive list.  Cool Marc  ✉   07:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! FanDePopLatino (talk) 14:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

South Africa
There's a discussion ongoing at Tyla (South African singer) with regards to the use of Billboard's Hits of the World "South Africa Songs" chart instead of The Official South African Charts, the nationally recognized chart of South Africa. From what I read in previous discussions, I understood that Billboard HOTW charts should only be used when the song/artist hasn't charted on the official national chart. Which is not the case here. Billboard themself have even recognized TOSAC as the official chart of South Africa. I am from South Africa and the media here always refer to the TOSAC Streaming Chart and not Billboard's South Africa Songs. I would like to obtain a clear consensus regarding this so we can have a guideline going forward for South Africa on WP:CHARTS.  Cool Marc  ✉   10:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

I see there was a consensus already on Wikipedia_talk:Record_charts/Archive_19 regarding the use of Billboard's Hits of the World charts which I understand as they should only be used if a song/artist did not chart on the official chart of the country. In this case, I am proposing to update the guideline for South Africa as follows:

Singles - Use The Official South African Charts Local & International Streaming Chart since 2021, only if a song has not appeared on this chart may Billboard South Africa Songs or Radio Chart be used. Pinging, , , for comment.  Cool Marc  ✉   07:10, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Seems sensible to me considering it's just an extension of the generally agreed upon "no Billboard for that country unless it hasn't charted on that country's official chart" consensus and because TOSAC is recognised as South Africa's national chart now.  Ss  112   11:10, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input! I have updated South Africa on Record charts/Sourcing guide.  Cool Marc  ✉   07:12, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

EFE lists
I noticed that on articles like Causa y Efecto, charts published by EFE are being used. I looked at the sources and the charts on some countries (like the U.S. and Argentina) are sourced to come from reliable sources such as billboard but other countries (Mexico, Costa Rica, etc.) lists are sourced to come from unreliable sources like Mixup, Los 40 Principales, and other single network radio stations. Since some of the charts are official then the source is not completely unreliable but since some charts are coming from single radio stations or vendors, then we should exclude using the source for those countries that don't have official charts credited. FanDePopLatino (talk) 14:44, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Suriname
This chart is being used in numerous articles for Suriname. According to website's about us page, the chart is based on radio airplay and "social media trends". Is this considered a legitimate or notable chart?  Cool Marc  ✉   09:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC) I am assuming no? I could not find any reliable sources reporting about this chart. The methodology is unclear. Radio airplay could be based on just on 1 radio station, and inclusion of "social media trends" which is real time data suggests to me this is not a legitimate chart.  Cool Marc  ✉   11:25, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Billboard and retroactive chart history
Hi there, got a quick question about Billboard's country charts. In 2012, Billboard changed the methodology of their Hot Country Songs chart, which since 1990 had been based on country radio airplay alone, to now use all-format airplay plus sales and streaming data. At the same time they launched a second chart, Country Airplay, which used country radio airplay alone. However, they apparently retroactively declared that all HCS history since 1990 now counted as history of both charts. This has led to them saying this week that Kenny Chesney "has had a record 33 number ones on Country Airplay", a figure which includes HCS number ones prior to 2012. My feeling is that this wording is not truly correct, as he hasn't had 33 number ones on a chart which was published under that title, some of them were on HCS, which still exists as a separate chart to CA, and they have essentially declared that songs which at the time of publication topped one chart are now considered to have topped two. I prefer to use the slightly vaguer wording "a record 33 number ones based on country radio plays". What are other people's thoughts on this.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the late reply as this was last month, but maybe some sort of wording added specifying the number ones were achieved on Billboard charts would help there too? As historically there have been other country charts published by other publications, even if no others (that I'm aware of) still survive. Or maybe an explanatory footnote in cases like this (as there can't be that many exceptions of artists having achieved number ones on the pre-2012 Country chart and post-2012 Country Airplay) stating that Billboard changed the chart?  Ss  112   19:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)