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Articles for deletion/Blackmailer Paradox
All opinions welcome. walk victor falktalk 00:29, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Multicomponent Attrition Game
I am thinking of begining the page for the Multicomponent Attrition Game. I had added it to the list of suggestions some time back, as I found it to be an interesting game which no one had started yet. If anyone has any info, references, ect, which would be useful on this article feel free to suggest them here or on my talk page. Keep in mind that I am a bit of a wikiogre, so once the interesting bits are done, there will probably still need to be some amount of cleanup, additional citations, and detail work, but the idea for me at least is to get the page started in the right direction.(I say this in the interest of honesty, not condescention)-- S c or pio n4 5 1 rant 18:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I have created a draft of this article, and would welcome any and all comments and suggestions.-- S c or pio n4 5 1 rant 17:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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Some original research
on using game theory to analyze Wikipedia itself:. Comments are very much welcome.radek (talk) 22:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Shapley–Folkman lemma
Often used in mathematical economics and game theory, the Shapley–Folkman lemma concerns the approximate convexity of Minkowski sums of non-convex sets.

The article has received a substantial (Wikipedia) peer-review. The additional suggestions (including article assessment) of (mathematical) game-theorists would be especially helpful now.

Thanks! Best regards, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 19:32, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Mathematical economics: Shapley-Folkman, Chichilnisky, & Mas-Colell, and Guesnerie
Re: Updates

This week User:David Eppstein created articles on the mathematical economists Andreu Mas-Colell and Graciela Chichilnisky (yesterday).

Chichilnisky iher work on international trade, development, and environmental economics has received international attention; she is known for her development of continuous social choice theory. Further, she has received national attention in the USA because of a (now settled) sex-discrimination law-suit.

I translated part of the article from French WP on Roger Guesnerie last week.

Also, another economics article started by David, the Shapley-Folkman lemma, received "Good Article" status yesterday, thanks to the reviewing of User:Jakob.scholbach, who guided the needed revisions. Further editing, especially copy-editing, would be appreciated.

Best regards,

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ArbCom decision on Monty Hall Problem: Decision theory
The arbitration on the Monty Hall problem is of interest to game theorists and decision theorists.

The proposed decision contains wording about "complex Bayesian solution", I note.

Also, it may be useful to be aware of the language regarding original research versus exposition using secondary sources, which is also discussed on the WikiProject Mathematics's talk page. Sincerely, Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 12:21, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

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MHP FAR
nominated Monty Hall problem for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Tijfo098 (talk) 22:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Partnership game
There are zero links to this one-paragraph article and no discussion except the project banner. If the concept is important there should be some in-links from other game theory articles.

There are partnership games in another sense, played by four or more people in pairs: whist, doubles tennis, best ball golf, and so on.--P64 (talk) 20:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Adding link for easier examination: partnership game C RETOG 8(t/c) 20:50, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * That article needs more context before it's worth linking to. My quick search just now for partnership game stuff makes it look like it refers to something like a symmetric principal-agent problem, where there are partners who jointly benefit from an enterprise, but each has incentive to shirk. Two links:, . C RETOG 8(t/c) 20:56, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * That is worth an article, even if limited to two partners which seems unnecessary. The current stub makes it seem trivial to me, specifying identical payoffs pairs ^P P^ for all strategy pairs ^S1 S2^, I think it means.
 * Perhaps the others may be called "pairs game" or "doubles game". At the moment I would write that article only about five times longer than this one ;-) which content that would not justify getting started, certainly not worth disambiguation! --P64 (talk) 17:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I've asked for feedback from the original creator of the article. It's possible they can provide more context. C RETOG 8(t/c) 17:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if they invented the term, but I first encountered it in Josef Hofbauer and Karl Sigmund's Evolutionary games and population dynamics. On page 82 they define it in terms of symmetry of payoff matrices.  A game is a partnership game if the payoff to all players is the same for a given strategy profile.  For H&S, partnership games are pure coordination games.
 * A quick google search reveals some inconsistency in usage.  use it to define a class of games that includes prisoner's dilemma like games.  It looks like H&S use is common in biology, while partnership games have more than one different meaning in the economics.  --best, kevin [kzollman][talk] 17:21, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Economics sidebar: Game theory and Mathematical methods
Outside thoughts are requested for the economics sidebar. One question is whether the term the JEL's Mathematical and Quantitative Methods should be called "Technical Methods", following the old New Palgrave (but not the current NP, which follows the JEL). Another question is whether game theory should be classified among the mathematical/quantitative methods (following the JEL) or among the economic subfields, alongside information economics and industrial organization (not following the JEL). Thanks, Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 08:56, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Typology and toplogy of 2x2 games
We have a semi-haphazard collection of articles on 2x2 (matrix) games, and some typologies there of, e.g. coordination game. Besides that well-known class, there are bunch of ad-hoc typologies that vary between authors, e.g. some define anti-coordination game, others define discoordination games. More recently 2x2 games have been classified using topology with some elements of graph and group theory by "alikeness" in, e.g. symmetric games. If someone has broad knowledge in this area an overview article would be nice; call it 2x2 games perhaps? Tijfo098 (talk) 06:39, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I see we have symmetric game, so that's a good start (even though not citing that book yet). Tijfo098 (talk) 07:09, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * 2x2 isn't the best way to categorize these. Coordination games and symmetric games aren't only 2x2. I'm not sure about the others. That said, 2x2 games are used a lot in illustrations, so a list-article like List of 2x2 games might be worthwhile. C RETOG 8(t/c) 15:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I know that symmetric and coordination games generalize to more than 2x2 (even though the coordination game article doesn't seem to give the general def ). There is is however substantial literature on the taxonomy of 2x2 games (see links above), which justifies an article. It is probably better to create 2x2 games than to cram the taxonomy at Coordination game as it's currently done. Tijfo098 (talk) 16:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Monty Hall Problem
Progress on the article on Monty Hall Problem continues to be mired in fruitless debate: not on the question of whether you should switch or stay, but on the question whether the problem is a wonderful brain-teaser whose surprising solution can be understood by anyone, or whether it is a probability paradox which has to be solved using probability calculus and Bayes' theorem. There are indeed different literatures on the problem: popular; elementary probability; elementary game theoretic ... and hence readers with very different needs.

The reason I draw attention to the topic here is that just recently, A.V. Gnedin (in several preprints on arXiv.org) has discovered that the game theoretic notion of domination can be used to splendid effect, leading to a powerful argument for switching which does not need any probability input at all!

So 1) I hope that this will entertain all lovers of game theory on wikipedia, and 2) I hope it will motivate some people here to join in the editing of the article on Monty Hall problem. What that article badly needs, in my opinion, is fresh editors who have enough mathematical background that they can appreciate different solutions from different points of view and with talent for explaining mathematical ideas to ordinary people. Richard Gill (talk) 09:52, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


 * From a purely expositional point of view, I guess I must disappoint you. Neither the matrix form (as used in the article by Gnedin), nor the game tree form is particularly easy to understand for casual readers. Moreover, in analysing this as a game, one has to make assumptions about the utility of the game host, which, while interesting, further complicate the picture. I doubt that this will help anyone without a good knowledge of gametheory to understand the problem. --Xeeron (talk) 10:27, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Shapley–Folkman lemma: FA copy-editing
Today mathematician Lloyd Shapley won the Nobel Prize in Economics (finally), and so Nobel Week would be a good time for a related featured-article.

The featured-article nomination for Shapley–Folkman lemma was stalled because of concerns about the professional-prose criterion. Help with copy-editing would be great.

In my dreams, I could imagine an animated illustration ... :)

Kiefer .Wolfowitz  17:26, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Hobbesian trap
Hobbesian trap: help appreciated :) --Tobias1984 (talk) 10:27, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Bankruptcy problem is up for deletion
Note that the Bankruptcy problem is up for deletion at Articles for deletion/Bankruptcy problem. Comments welcome. --Mark viking (talk) 20:31, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet for Wikiproject Game Theory at Wikimania 2014
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Why is nucleolus included in the list of articles to create? - Astrophobe (talk) 22:08, 12 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Nucleolus, the cell biology topic, is created. But nucleolus (game theory) has not. We do have Cooperative_game_theory. Expanding that section and then splitting out if it gets too big, may be the way to go. -- 22:34, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

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