Wikipedia talk:WikiProject King Crimson

Creation
Created this WikiProject today, hope people are interested.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 15:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Discographies/more obscure albums
I recently did a page for Return To The Dark Side Of The Moon, a Pink Floyd tribute album organised by Billy Sherwood but featuring five Crimson members (Wetton, Bruford, Levin, Belew, Mastelotto). It's a sequel to Back Against The Wall, which features Belew, Wetton and Levin. There are many other guest appearances and the like by Crimson members on other albums which aren't mentioned anywhere. So that's somewhere I'd like to see some focus. Bondegezou 10:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Songs
I was listening to the live version of Easy Money off of The Great Deceiver, and couldn't find Easy Money anywhere on Wiki. So I looked harder for other songs, and bam, nothing. Only the really insanely famous songs have articles, like Larks' Tongues in Aspic (Which just has one giant article by the way, not four individual ones), whereas every little half-minute album splattering of every other band somehow winds up on Wiki. I've always found Crimson to be probably the most interesting band I've ever heard, and it would be great if we could get more information on the specific songs. AlexRochon 15:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It would be great, but it may not happen, because not all of these songs have individual notability. What would be best is to improve the articles about the individual albums, and include the information about the songs there. That way, we can get the albums to good article or even featured article status.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 22:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Alright, but I wasn't saying anything about covering every single song... Just the more famous ones, that people might actually search up. You are, however, 100% correct, the albums are a much higher priority. 99.246.139.75 (talk) 03:45, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, Wiki is not short for Wikipedia.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 23:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

The bit on Elephant Talk misses the entire reason for the song's name. The song is a long humorous musical pun, with the punch line both lyrical and musical. The setup: The lyrics throughout the song are synonmyms for talk and are in alphabetical order, with the first stanza's words beginning with 'A' and the following stanza's words beginning with 'B', etc. Throughout the song, the guitarist creates a kind of wailing from his guitar, that might be heard as similar to an elephant's trumpeting. When the stanzas arrive at the letter 'E,' the lyrics are synonyms for talk such as 'expressions' and 'exclamations'. At the end, the vocalist says 'Elephant talk??' several times, and the song ends with the trumpeting noise from the guitar! A very funny musical and lyrical joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.118.40 (talk) 11:53, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Giles, Giles and Fripp
Early December 2007 I came across "Giles, Giles & Fripp" page, asking if anyone had an image for the album. As it has now been redirected to 'Giles, Giles and Fripp" - the request seems to be missing. With a bit of work, I could possibly stitch together a few scans and upload the album cover, hopefully on the Giles page. I'm watching, so let me know. Htcs (talk) 05:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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King Crimson for Rock music task force? Mfd?
I was thinking of putting this (largely inactive) project up for Mfd, however I see there were a couple of new members last year. Would it be a better idea to make this a task force of WikiProject Rock music? That would give it a bit more exposure and also protect it from deletion. Would that be a good idea? Thanks. -- Klein zach  07:44, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Discipline Global Mobile DYK nomination
I nominated the following hook for DYK. Kiefer .Wolfowitz 17:46, 21 February 2012 (UTC) Did you know


 * ... music was called "an industry founded on exploitation, oiled by deceit, riven with theft and fueled by greed" by Robert Fripp (pictured), King Crimson guitarist and  founder of Discipline Global Mobile?

Kiefer .Wolfowitz 17:50, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK 25 March 2012 and Good-article nominee
The article, with a hook about its knotwork logo, should run on the main-page on 25 March 2012, which is the 27th anniversary of Guitar Craft. Crafty guitarist and artist Steve Ball licensed (CC-3.0-BY-SA) Wikipedia to use his "possible" knotwork.

The article's good-article review has begun. Please improve the article this week, before it is seen by thousands of readers. Thanks! Kiefer .Wolfowitz 15:58, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The Review has begun. Will somebody look at

and see whether Smith mentions Discipline Global Mobile, please? Kiefer .Wolfowitz 23:23, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Alfie Fripp (RIP): DYK nomination
Robert Fripp's late Uncle, Alfie Fripp, was the longest serving and last surviving British POW of WWII. He helped the construction of the tunnel "Harry" portrayed in The Great Escape.

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Level Five EP
The Level Five EP has been made a redirect to the main KC page. Does anyone have any sources that could be used to show notability ? -- Beardo (talk) 03:55, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

what sort of notability? I'm sure to normal people, only the first album and maybe Discipline are notable. For followers of King Crimson, the Level 5 ep is notable for premiering early live versions of four songs that would later appear on the next full studio LP. Fripp did the same thing a decade earlier, with VROOM and THRAK containing different versions of the same songs, and this now seems to be his normal working method. A second work-in-progress ep was also released, Happy with What You Have to Be Happy With, before the eventual release of the complete LP The Power to Believe. Fripp seems to blurring the definition of major album releases and something like Level 5 is no less significant even if it live and "only" 45 minutes ... indeed Level 5 is available at my local HMV whereas the longer LPs either side of its release are both out-of-print and unavailable. | here is the Level 5 page as it existed before being replaced by a redirect ... aside form artwork what needs to be added to make it worthy of restoration? it seems confusing and arbitrary that it is missing, and if the page is not to exist then the information should be incorporated within some other related page, either the ConstrucKction or Power page perhaps? J Edward Malone (talk) 19:22, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

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