Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linux/Archive 1

Assessment?
I think we should attempt an article assessment first of all, before mandating articles to focus on. What do you think? - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 17:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree, however, an article assessment is going to be very hard with just 2 people. I think that getting a scope on the Linux articles of Wikipedia will be difficult without 4+ members. Are there any real big Linux contributors that would lend time to this? --T. Moitie [ talk ] 18:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Wait two days and see what happens. ;) - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 19:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've just seen the effort you've put forward to all those Wikipedians. Thanks. The amount of people you posted to is incredible. I guess we can say, yea, an assessment would be a good idea. How do you propose we do it now? Surely giving articles assessments would require some kind of an info box on the talk page, something we've agreed on as a bad idea (for now). Would we need to create some more sub pages on the Project? --T. Moitie [ talk ] 20:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Todo
You may wish to use the todo template. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 18:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Just added it and am now using it. --T. Moitie [ talk ] 20:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Free software
What's this project's relationship with Portal:Free software? — a thing 03:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, most free software on that portal is GPL, and most GPL software is for Linux. I think Linux software has to be GPL, but I wouldn't be too sure. I know the OS has to be open source, and Red Hat was commercialising it with RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) which was basically free OS but not so free bundled apps and support. --Draicone (talk) 11:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. Basicly when you buy RHEL (which, now it comes to it, it is one the articles I had my eye on as needing work), you pay for the support, and the license fees for support for non-free stuff such as MP3 support. Of course some distributions give the user the option to break the law with the idea that they trust you have gone and paid the license fees yourself. --T. Moitie [ talk ] 12:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No. Linux software does not have to be GPL. Most libraries are LGPL licensed to make it possible to write proprietary software using these libraries. Some people believe this should be encouraged, because a lot of software ends up as open source once it stops being profitable, or as the software becomes more complex and the support business model becomes more attractive, and distributing the source becomes helpful in customer acquisition. A lot of proprietary software is actually available for Linux, some of which does not cost money. Check out Adobe Reader and Ahead Nero; Mathematica is an example of software you have to buy licenses for, and is typical of a number of products that are used in academic environments, where Linux is also popular (as, incidentally, is OS X). - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 12:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I mean, why is this separate from the free software portal? — a thing 01:03, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A portal is not a project. A portal is a summary page offering directions concerning a particular field, "featured" articles, "featured" pictures, etc. And as people have pointed out, there is some overlap, but not quite enough, so I guess we wouldn't be maintaining the portal. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 01:06, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, if anyone does want to contribute to Portal:Free software, you're welcome. The focus of the portal is not just GPL. The portal focuses on Linux, BSD, GNU, X11, Firefox, OpenOffice, and anything that is free software. So the scope is broader in some ways, because "free software" includes BSD, and the scope is narrower in some ways, because "related to Linux" presumably includes non-free software which runs on GNU/Linux, such as Macromedia Flash and Sun's Java.

One benefit that I see in drawing the boundary on a concept like "free software" instead of a technology such as "Linux" is that the latter's boundary isn't clear to me. Is Macromedia's flash player "related to Linux" by virtue of their being some versions available for GNU/Linux? Is OpenSSH "related to linux" by virtue of their being some versions available for GNU/Linux? I'm not looking for answers, they're just example questions that I think will be more difficult for a "linux" centred project than it is for something centred on "free software".

But that's an implementation detail, and even if one implementation is better or worse than the other, for a successful project the important thing is to capture people's area of interest.

One thing that Portal:Free software is a bit weak on is techy info. The idea of the portal is that if someone is interested in free software and they want to see what Wikipedia has to offer, they can "Enter via the free software door". Portal:Free_software does a pretty good job, IMHO, of this for legal and ethical aspects, but it doesn't have much to offer to a tech. I plan on improving this, but if someone thinks they can do a better job then they'd probably be right. Gronky 01:34, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think we should have a Portal:Platform battles, where each major operating system gets dissed in equal amounts. With occasional features on why BSD is evil, why Minix sucks, and why DOS was the best thing ever. :D - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 10:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * But DOS was the best thing ever... pschemp | talk 14:45, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

This project should be broadened to all free software. That would seem a better direction. --Ashawley 23:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Salutations
Having been given a nod in the direction of this project, I am interested in participating. If there is some need for assessment of qualifications, let me know, otherwise I'll not parade my arrogance any more than necessary. I would like, however, to expand upon the project's stated goals. I offer the following suggestions for consideration:


 * That the first goal, which as of this writing reads "To create a better resource for Linux distributions on the wikipedia." should perhaps be something more like "To improve the quality and expand the range of Linux-related articles on Wikipedia."
 * The second goal, which as of this writing reads "To not confuse non-linux users, and to lend insight on how Windows isn't the only operating system." should be divided amongst its components, to create two new goals that might be something like: "To improve articles such that they would serve as useful to beginners and experts alike, by providing both simple and more technical descriptions." and "To spread awareness of Linux, in a respectful and realistic manner, to other Wikipedians."
 * And some additional goals:
 * To establish a consistent definition of the term "Linux" for use by this WikiProject and, by extension, throughout Wikipedia.
 * To respect the differences between distributions while maintaing a point-of-view that shows no preference for any specific distributions.
 * To recognize both the strengths and weaknesses of Linux, and convey neither with undue emphasis or lack thereof.

Food for thought?&mdash;Kbolino 07:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've taken your first 2 points and incorporated them into the goals section. Thanks, my wording was less than desirable. Your point on establishing a consistent definition for Linux seems more like a short term goal. It is however important. There seems to be no boundary when talking about Linux and the Linux Kernel.


 * The point on respecting differences and recognising the strengths and weaknesses of Linux is something we should be taking into consideration for everything we write anyway, as per WP:NPOV. Do you really see it as a goal? What do other people think?
 * --T. Moitie [ talk ] 13:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, since Wikipedia aspires to be an encyclopaedia, we cannot define the meanings of things outside of their normal context. In the real world, the term "Linux" is ambiguous, and may refer to the kernel or the whole distribution including GNU, and this reference work must reflect that. Anything else would be neologism, which is explicitly prohibited. Articles such as GNU/Linux naming controversy already explicitly address the ambiguity. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 14:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Linux Article Index
greetings. I got the message on my talk page to take look at this project. I will try to help out to the best of my ability, but life take up too much of my free time and I don't have much to spend on wikipedia any more. After quickly looking it over the first thing that came to mind to improve the project is to organize the linux articles with some sort of list. I am one of the founding members of the Final Fantasy project, and what we did there was create an index for that purpose. On our main page, we should also organize all the FA and GA articles that are linux related for others to see. I have a couple other ideas I'm playing with that I'll throw out at you guys at a later time. -- ZeWrestler  Talk 17:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Layed out framework for index. Needs to be filled in. check it out and contribute. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linux/index -- ZeWrestler  Talk 17:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

OpenBSD
OpenBSD is definately not directly related to Linux. BSD was originally based on a non-GPL licenced copy of Unix. The only thing that links it to Linux in that way is it is based on Unix originally. What do you think? Should we include Open BSD in our scope? --T. Moitie [ talk ] 20:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No. It's already featured anyway. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 20:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I was talking about how it was listed in State of Affairs. It isn't anymore. Problem resolved :) --T. Moitie [ talk ] 02:21, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

How to start
I propose we should start by taking some of the Good Articles to Featured Article status, one by one. We currently have five of these:
 * GNOME - easy
 * Linspire - easy
 * Perl - technical
 * TeX - technical
 * X Window System protocols and architecture - technical

I'm not really going to suggest going for the last three, as they're quite technical and probably do better with a smaller, more specialised group of editors. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 23:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I think that GNOME would be a good place to start. The application itself has a massive userbase, and it is pre-installed on many Linux operating systems as default. I've had a browse around for user statistics and found none, but I'd stick my neck out and say about half (maybe less) of all end-Linux users use it. It is to this end that the GNOME article needs to be as informative as possible without alienating the newbie users. If we made it to featured article status, it would possibly advocate to non-linux users the GUI side of Linux, something that hasn't really been done too much. The GNOME article appeals to a lot broader audience than the other articles so it has my back. Would it be better if we moved this list of articles to Mini Collab? --T. Moitie [ talk ] 02:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Note also that KDE has a pretty strong article -- it would likely be a GA if not for the lack of references. Twinxor t 03:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * GNOME first, KDE second, Linspire third? I should also point out that the Fedora Core article is quite reasonable, with good referencing so far. Debian, on the other hand, is well-written but unreferenced. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 18:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Right, so unless theres any more input, we should get started on the GNOME article. I'll start tomorrow. --T. Moitie [ talk ] 21:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, yesterday was a bit messed up. I've had to endure a pretty hefty personal attack culminating in my name being on the WP:AN board and the WP:PAIN board for little to no reason, the person in question put under indefinite block. I've made a to do list on GNOME's talk page. How do you think we should start this? --T. Moitie [ talk ] 13:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Dreamlinux
Dreamlinux is up for deletion. I added little stuff, maybe you can help to improve. It's 86 on distrowatch down from 67. So it's not just little dist. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 09:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Happening again. It's geexbox this time: Articles for deletion/Geexbox. - User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 00:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Linux Kernel API
The Linux Kernel API article desperately needs an expansion, It looks terrible. Ido50 00:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Common Unix Printing System
Common Unix Printing System is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 14:37, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Emacs
Emacs is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 19:56, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Ubuntu (Linux distribution)
Ubuntu (Linux distribution) is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 16:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Just to update, it lost FA status. 0L1 | Talk | Contribs 20:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 00:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Work needed on Unix commands
Many of the articles on Unix command line programs are in poor shape -- they could use copyediting, expansion, and good examples. See Template:Unix commands for links to many of them. Twinxor t 17:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Translation of Geschichte von Linux
I've copied the article for the translation here:Wikipedia:WikiProject Linux/Translatation:Geschichte von Linux Mike92591 18:08, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Template wording
I've changed the wording of Template:Linuxproject as it implied that we owned the articles - as it stood we couldn't add it to articles we hadn't touched. I've changed to 'in the scope of' the project which is better. Secretlondon 01:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Group-Office
I've asked for the article on Group-Office to be undeleted. If you would like to comment, specifically concerning the notability of the software, you may do so here. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 21:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Linux project article template with parser functions
I'm not sure what the current policy is on the usage of templates for Linux articles, but I've prepared a template which uses the parser functions to add information concerning Wikipedia 1.0. See the template at Template:tuxproj; adding it to talk pages will allow the usage of arguments, such as: I think this would be useful for preparing articles for Wikipedia 1.0 inclusion.  function msikma(user: UserPage, talk: TalkPage ): Void  19:46, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Category:Linux articles?
How does the project's list of articles relate to the list at Category:Linux? Should we slavishly move all of those inot the project list? -Arch dude 16:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

We don't really need to.Mike92591 17:15, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Adding to the index
On the index, there are several pages with the WP:LINUX template on them that are not in the index. Should I add these to the list? Also, if I want to add pages to the project, should I just add the template or is there more to do? Thanks, 0L1   Talk   Contribs  18:38 8/12/2006 (UTC)

Mozilla Firefox FAR
Mozilla Firefox has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Sandy (Talk) 21:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

"Translatation:Geschichte von Linux"?
Whoever started that page seems to have misspelled "translation". I propose it be moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Linux/Translation:Geschichte_von_Linux --Pete Iriarte 19:04, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Fixed it
I moved the page so that it is spelled correctly, and also changed the link in the todo list. I decided to keep it on the todo list so that anyone can look over it and make sure that it is fit to be removed, I would hate it if I was the one to judge that it was complete without anyone else having a say in it. CloneDeath 16:28, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/StartCom -- notable or not?
The following articles have been nominated for deletion as a group: While there's a conflict of interest concern that these were added by User:Startcom, the main issue as I see it is one of notability. I encourage Linux-knowledgeable editors to weigh in on this topic at the AfD, especially if you know of reliable sources that would establish notability per the Notability Guideline for Companies (and their products). If there are no reliable sources, that would be helpful to know, too. I don't know enough about the topic to understand which if any of the hits I'm turning up in a Google search meet the Reliable Sources Guideline -- for instance, does a listing on DistroWatch count? Likewise, does their connection to the XMPP Federation confer notability? Thanks, --A. B. (talk) 13:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * StartCom
 * StartCom Certification Authority
 * StartCom Linux

GNU/Linux naming controversy FAR
GNU/Linux naming controversy has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 22:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Too late! The article has already been demoted. Tcrow777  talk  05:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Gobuntu
I've started article about Gobuntu. I'm very interested for that project, so I'll be watching closely what's new, and updating article. The only problem is language - English is not my native language (I'm getting better and better, though), so I would be gratreful if someone could check for errors every now and then. Thanks! Bojan 11:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Separate projects for KDE and GNOME?
Upon looking through some KDE related pages I've noticed that most of them are stubs and the larger ones have in inconsistent style and weak layout. I think that to solve this we should have separate projects for KDE and GNOME, they are both large projects and have many pages on wikipedia, and while I don't know much about the GNOME pages, the KDE pages definitely need improvement, and many of them need almost a full rewrite or need lengthening to a full article from a stub.

I've just created a KDE project at WikiProject_KDE and would love some new members.

Happysmileman 20:50, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Can I join
Could I join? I am not sure how to so... anyways...

I could work with KDE. I am a programmer, and would like to be part of this project. I also did a little translation of the german page already. As for now, I will probobly go over more on the todo list. I would appreciate it if someone added me on the list of people who are part of the project as "CloneDeath", I am not sure if you guys would appreciate me adding myself. Anyhow, thanks.

Also, I do think KDE and Gnome should be seperate.

CloneDeath 19:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure, just put your name on the bototm of the list --L-- 20:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Finished the translation
I finished translating the German page on Linux News. There are a couple parts were the meaning could be disputed (particularly the jokes about the "Truth" campaign windows had going, but I did my best). anyways, that should be taken off the "Todo" list, since I "Todid" it (laughs out loud...). I am not that good in german, but I hold my own. However, if you have any spanish pages, alert me immediatly and I will have that sucker done within the hour. I can translate many pages including: -Chinese (simple and traditional) -Japanese -Korean -Portuguese  -French -Italian -Spanish (My favorite language to translate)  -Dutch -German  -Russian <br\> -Greek<br\>

Those are (more or less) all the languages I can translate. Tell me if you need any translations ^_^. Also, I speak English, and it is my first language, so you don't have to worry about any Engrish. (ie Donkeykong was supposed to be Monkeykong, but someone who's first language was japanese translated it wrong (they were off by 1 letter), now translaters translate from a foreign to their 1st language (at least that is so for videogames, to avoid the "Donkey kong" incident) )

CloneDeath 15:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

FAR for X Window System
X Window System has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 15:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Atul Chitnis / AfD
I wonder if any of you might possibly comment on the most recent (aka third) AfD nomination for Atul Chitnis. There's an awful lot of text there, but only two opinions plus that of the nom. I can't say I know anything much about the subject matter, and I think you might better than I. - Che Nuevara 17:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

PaX is listed at FAR
PaX has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.  Pagra shtak  19:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

You have unlocked a secret character! (New Member Request)
I'm a Linux/FSF-loving 13-year-old who ditched his life long ago. I am still learning about Linux, but from what I know, I have a nice amount of knowledge. Could I join?

--Ihitterdal 01:13, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Huh?
I'm sorry if this seems like a strange question to you all, but what in the hell does X Windows have to do with Linux? Linux has a loose tie to GNU, through common use of the userland tools they've made, and through sharing the same licences, but Linux has no ties to the X consortiums. 74.14.157.141 02:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It it pretty much THE windowing system used for Linux GUIs? That ties it closely enough in my book. --Falcorian (talk) 07:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * And it is not Linux, it is X. Is this the POSIX Wikiproject then?  GNU isn't even Linux, only Linux is Linux.  74.13.34.54 08:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * And? The Project is a just a group of people working on articles. If they want to include X and GNU, then... They will? It's really that simple.


 * I guess I'm confused because I'm not sure what your point is, nor what action you'd like to see taken? If it's just a "Why do you guys keep track of those articles?" then the answer really is as simple as "Because we want to." --Falcorian (talk) 00:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Then why are you called the Linux Wikiproject, if Linux isn't your focus, but rather, "stuff we want to." I suppose, "wikiproject stuff-we-want-to," wouldn't have been a very good name.  You're running around in a grey area, muddying the meanings of terms when you call everything you like Linux, instead of calling Linux, "Linux," and other things, other things.  74.13.48.67 00:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

FAR for X Window System core protocol
X Window System core protocol has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.

Xvesa @ KDrive
-- I've had this question at Talk:KDrive for a month now with no response. Xvesa redirects here to KDrive, yet this article has no info of any sort about Xvesa. For example, "what is it"? Thanks. -- Writtenonsand 21:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC) Can anybody add a quick note on this to KDrive? Thanks. -- Writtenonsand (talk) 21:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

"This project has just started": Over a year ago
"At the moment, this project has just started, and needs members." -- This was originally added to the project's main page on 26 July 2006. I know that Linuxors are free-thinking independent types, but it seems to me that after almost a year and a half, it's time to remove the "just started". -- Writtenonsand (talk) 20:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

"Linux server" article?
Wikipedia has a number of articles related to the subject of Web servers, including Linux-based web servers. Would there be any point to making an article at Linux server (or whatever would be the best title) to act as a central catch-all on this subject? (Cf. the page Desktop Linux.) -- Writtenonsand (talk) 21:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

OpenSSI
Quick note, I've radically stubbed OpenSSI, as it appeared to be mostly copied from here. If anyone has the time, I think it'd have a lot of potential to be rebuilt. SQL <sup style="color:#999">Query me! 05:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Request for Comment
An RfC for the naming issue has been opened here. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 17:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Security-Enhanced Linux needs sources
Security-Enhanced Linux has been tagged "This article does not cite any references or sources" since Nov 2007. Can anybody help with this? -- Writtenonsand (talk) 17:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

maemo task force
I'd like to see about putting together a task force to work on improving all maemo and maemo-related articles (with some spillover into more general embedded-Linux stuff including Ubuntu Mobile, and GNOME Mobile stuff). Who do I need to talk to to get the ball rolling on something like this? GeneralAntilles (talk) 18:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Another FOSS logo bites the non-free dust
Per a on the Commons, the Fedora Project logo is now considered non-free. ViperSnake151 11:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "Now considered non-free" is a strange way of putting it; there is no indication, anywhere, that it was ever under a free license. Love, Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 17:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
 * The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
 * The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
 * A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot  ( Disable )  20:53, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Ubuntu GA Help, please!
We're almost done with readying Ubuntu for Good Article status. However, the GA reviewer has asked that the prose in the Package classification and support section be fixed. If others could have a look at it, that'd be great! I'll look over it as well. I'd also like someone to give the Alternate Installation a look over and copy edit, as I massed it together earlier. Thanks! --Falcorian (talk) 01:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's see if we can WP:FA it. ff m  14:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

A discussion
An important discussion on " Should WikiProjects get prior approval of other WikiProjects (Descendant or Related or any ) to tag articles that overlaps their scope ?  " is open here . We welcome you to participate and give your valuable opinions. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) -, member of WikiProject Council. 15:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup
Currently, 367 articles are assigned to this project, of which 168, or 45.8%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 2008-07-14.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place a template on your project page.

If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page; I'm not watching this page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 18:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Web sources for Linux
This project's members may be interested in the discussion at Reliable sources/Noticeboard that I have started. The aim is to determine which sources may be usable for Linux-related articles. Feel free to add your own comments regarding the websites or suggest a website of your own. Ham Pastrami (talk) 02:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Mass deletion of Linux articles
Note that Ham Pastrami seems to have an interest in the mass deletion of Linux-related articles and other computer-related articles. He first put a tag on dozens of articles saying they would be deleted in 5 days due to a lack of notability, even though many are clearly notable, such as the Novell Open Enterprise Server article. After I removed those tags he then started nominating each for the AfD process. I suggest you follow his actions through his contributions list to determine what he will try to delete next. StuRat (talk) 03:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * LOL. I nominated a number of Linux distros (what Stu refers to as "mass deletion of Linux-related articles and other computer-related articles") that were of questionable notability, as far as I could tell, per my comment in the immediately preceding section. (Really Stu, you can't even make a fair representation of the issue without injecting hyperbole?) I could be wrong about some of the nominations, and that's fine -- simply vote to keep them or provide a reliable source to verify them and I'll withdraw the nom. What StuRat has done is tried to shoot down every nomination based on his objection to the single Novell article. So yes, the natural course of action was to take it to AfD since Stu cannot disingenuously dismiss the nominations there. I will tell you what I plan to do next -- I'm going to wait for the AfDs to be settled, and in the meantime, I'll be busy replying to all the love letters that Stu is leaving me on my talk page. Ham Pastrami (talk) 04:43, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Notability of distributions
Are people in this project comfortable with all the fringe articles being created for distros that seemingly have no notability? Refer to the List of Linux distributions or Comparison of Linux distributions. A lot of these are somewhat trivial forks/mods of major distros. They haven't received any significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. I'm not deeply knowledgeable of the Linux community or trends so it would be preferable if someone who is could go through the list and use their judgment about whether some of these articles really belong on WP. Ham Pastrami (talk) 00:18, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see my comment in next section. StuRat (talk) 03:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD list

 * 64 Studio
 * Alinex
 * Archie (Linux)
 * Arudius
 * Aurox
 * BLAG Linux and GNU
 * Caixa Mágica
 * DeMuDi
 * Mythbuntu
 * NimbleX
 * PAIPIX
 * QiLinux
 * Satux
 * Source Mage GNU/Linux
 * Trustix

Since StuRat has accused me of acting in bad faith, I'll make it easy for everyone to decide for themselves. Here's the full list of Linux distros that I have sent to AfD. Some "borderline" cases were not renominated, due to the objection of "mass deletion" (both Stu and DGG expressed that they were bothered by the quantity of articles; which to me is strange because I'm pretty sure that this is not a factor in whether an article should be deleted or not). As a concession I'm limiting the renoms to some of the worst offenders. I'll also reiterate here (as I did in the AfDs) that these are procedural noms -- notability is uncertain to me, I don't necessarily think they should be deleted. But as a matter of policy, if these articles don't have any reliable sources to back them up they probably don't belong here. Ham Pastrami (talk) 05:12, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

State of affairs
The X Window System core protocol article is listed as a featured article on this page in the section "State of affairs", yet in reality it is no longer featured.--DustWolf (talk) 17:25, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Linux
Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 23:30, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

"Canvassing" for input on Deletion_review
Not a star distribution, but definitely notable I'd say. See the AN/I thread for some arguments as well. VasileGaburici (talk) 09:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Puppy Linux needs update re v4.00
Puppy Linux says "The latest release is 4.00, released on 2008-05-04." Section "History" discusses Puppy Linux 3, 2, and 1, but not 4. Can anyone update? Thanks. -- 201.53.7.16 (talk) 03:28, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

GA Sweeps review of KDE
KDE has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Articles are typically reviewed for one week. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 21:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

GA Sweeps Review of GNOME
GNOME has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Articles are typically reviewed for one week. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 21:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Edit war on Fedora page
There seems to be an edit war going on as to whether Fedora (operating system) should be classified as the Linux family or Unix-like family. I don't know which is correct. Can one of you guys go over and try to calm this down? Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 11:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group
Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. &mdash; Delievered by §hepBot  ( Disable )  on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Importance in Assessment
Recently, I introduced the Importance scale in WPLinux template in order to further categorize the articles related to Linux. All members of WPLinux are invited to assess the articles for importance. 414 articles remain to be assessed as I write this and I think that we should aim to reduce this to at least 100 if not less. Pmlinediter  Talk 15:04, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Nova Linux / Nova (Linux)
Added a request to [Wikipedia:Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences/Computer science, computing, and Internet]: Nova Linux / Nova (Linux) (Not sure preferred format). - Distro being developed by Cuba to assist independence from Microsoft and other U.S. companies. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Cuba-Launches-Own-Linux-Variant-to-Counter-US/?kc=rss - 201.37.230.43 (talk) 13:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * FYI: List of Linux distributions has a redlink for this at Nova Operating System, which I'm not sure is the best article title.
 * A couple of articles cited in http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba -- http://www.ecualug.org/2009/02/13/blog/jonas/una_nueva_distro_nova_linux_cubana (Español)
 * -- http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ge32NldFm5UB9gLB-QqQY-N6gFnQ (Español, Google cache)
 * -- Official page of the project -- http://www.nova.uci.cu/website/ (Español).
 * -- 201.37.230.43 (talk) 15:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Ubuntu discussion
Ubuntu was recently moved to Ubuntu (operating system). There's an RFC underway on Talk:Ubuntu about which article the redirect from the old location should point to: the distro, Ubuntu (philosophy), or Ubuntu (disambiguation). Since one of the participants has been WP:CANVASSing over at African WikiProjects, I figured I'd better let you folks know as well. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Popular pages
I have requested a list for this project on. --Ysangkok (talk) 01:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Pageview stats
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Linux to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at WikiProject Linux/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! <font face="Broadway">Mr.Z-man 04:10, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD: makeself
Project members might be interested in Articles for deletion/Makeself. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 08:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

WRG45G connecting to a power saver
Can the WRT 54G be connected to a power saver without it altering any of the settings when it goes in stand-by mode. regards. Glenn —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.61.172.234 (talk) 12:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Java and Portal
Hi guys! We just opened the WikiProject Java for business and would appreciate if you could put a link to it in your 'Related projects' section. Thanks in advance! -- <span style="display:inline-block; position:relative; top:20px; font-family:Times; color:#4590ff; font-size:small;">  Alain R 3 4 5   <sup style="color:#ffb000;">Techno-Wiki-Geek    19:39, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi guys! We just opened the Java portal for business and would appreciate if you could put a link to it in the 'Related portals' section of your portal. Thanks in advance! -- <span style="display:inline-block; position:relative; top:20px; font-family:Times; color:#4590ff; font-size:small;">  Alain R 3 4 5   <sup style="color:#ffb000;">Techno-Wiki-Geek    19:39, 12 December 2009 (UTC)  To get this cool Duke, you can paste something like:

Multi-pointer X
Currently, there is a lot of confusion about multi-pointer X as opposed to multi-touch support in X (which basically doesn't exist yet). I think the Wikipedia article about Multi-Pointer X should distinguish between multi-pointer and multi-touch more clearly, perhaps in a separate header, to avoid this confusion. HTML guru (talk) 03:41, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
This message is being sent to each WikiProject that participates in the WP 1.0 assessment system. On Saturday, January 23, 2010, the WP 1.0 bot will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's summary table will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the WP 1.0 project homepage. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 03:32, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Windows fanboys
Hi! Im an anonymous IP user, AC, or whatever you want to call it. I visited the Wintel article and, amazingly enough, it said nothing about the name being used as a despective way to name the alliance between the two companies to improve each one's monopoly. /* Reverted for vandalism in < 5 minutes */ I added 7 links to prove it's usage and got reverted again. --201.253.132.192 (talk) 22:23, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

BLPs of Unix people tagged as having no references
Lacking a Unix WikiProject, I'm posting all of them here (ain't too many, thankfully):


 * Bob_Fabry: BSD_people; All_unreferenced_BLPs
 * Dave_D._Taylor: Linux_people; All_unreferenced_BLPs
 * Dru_Lavigne: BSD_people, FreeBSD_people; All_unreferenced_BLPs
 * John_Mashey: SGI_people, Unix_people; All_unreferenced_BLPs
 * Loïc_Dachary: GNU_people; All_unreferenced_BLPs
 * Olivier_Fourdan: Linux_people; All_unreferenced_BLPs
 * Robert_J._Chassell: GNU_people; All_unreferenced_BLPs

Regards, Pcap ping  03:58, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Template:Linux
I added a new row: “System arrangement and features”. It may be a bad English name for it, but I am unable to invent something better for various low-level system specific topic interesting not for general public, but for geeks, programmers and sysadmins. There are a new article Linux console there, and also a Linux framebuffer. IMHO there should be also placed a link on Linux networking (IP over Linux), but I did not find an article on such general topic.

Also, I added the link module (linux), which is now a redirect. I think that we should distinguish the concept of loadable kernel module (also known as a modular kernel in some sources) and its implementation in the Linux kernel. So, I propose the article loadable kernel module to be splitted. Confusing one and another may also eventually lead to mess in the interwiki. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

FAR
nominated OpenBSD for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  03:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced living people articles bot
Okip  00:41, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Davem
Hello. After having survived AfD, the David S. Miller article is being worked on. Some help would be appreciated. Thank you, Comte0 (talk) 15:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Linux distributions template (navigation box, navbox)
The template has a talk page at Template talk:Linux distributions

In particular I'd like to point out to the newest discussion at Template talk:Linux distributions. We've recently had the navbox format changed to be not just a top-10 list as it was before, instead it's significantly expanded, but again we're having issues deciding on the threshold. Input is welcome. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 08:08, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

GNU
There is a content dispute on the GNU article -the problem is basically where and how to put the current usability status of GNU in the article lead. There is a long discussion between me and User:Yworo on the talk page about that and it seems we're unable to reach a compromise. Expert attention would help. Thanks.-- Cycl o  pia  talk  00:36, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

New subcategory for Category:KDE
Hi, you might be interested in my suggestion for a new subcategory of KDE here. --Schuhpuppe (talk) 01:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Linux articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

We would like to ask you to review the Linux articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as One Laptop per Child and Wikipedia for Schools to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide. Please help us, with your WikiProject's feedback!

For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 23:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Damn Vulnerable Linux is redlink. Anybody care to create stub?
Damn Vulnerable Linux: "a Linux system that was as vulnerable as possible ... a learning tool for security students." http://www.damnvulnerablelinux.org/

Sounds interesting. Anybody care to create a stub on this?

-- 187.67.203.186 (talk) 15:41, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip; I'll start it. –Paul M. Nguyen (chat&#124;blame) 21:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing
I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

GNOME peer review
I would like to advance our precious GNOME to FA. The first step is a peer review, which, after my copyedit and restructure, I think is now appropriate, so I have nominated it. Please take a look at the article and provide me your feedback. Thanks! –Paul M. Nguyen (chat&#124;blame) 02:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Lightweight Linux distribution
I just de-PRODded the article/list Mini Linux and renamed it Lightweight Linux distribution because I think it just needs attention. It could use your help! --Pnm (talk) 03:47, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Citation templates now support more identifiers
Recent changes were made to citations templates (such as citation, cite journal, cite web...). In addition to what was previously supported (bibcode, doi, jstor, isbn, ...), templates now support arXiv, ASIN, JFM, LCCN, MR, OL, OSTI, RFC, SSRN and Zbl. Before, you needed to place id (or worse http://arxiv.org/abs/0123.4567), now you can simply use 0123.4567, likewise for id and http://www.jstor.org/stable/0123456789 &rarr; 0123456789.

The full list of supported identifiers is given here (with dummy values):



Obviously not all citations needs all parameters, but this streamlines the most popular ones and gives both better metadata and better appearances when printed. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 03:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Peter MacDonald (computer programmer)
I recently deleted this article as an uncontested prod but the subject of the article has asked me to restore it. However, since it's an unsourced BLP I moved it to the incubator instead. (link)

Once this article is sourced it can be moved back into article space. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:11, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

== RFC on the inclusion of a table comparing SI units and Binary prefixes ==

Notice: An RFC is being conducted here at Talk:Hard diskdrive#RFC on the use of the IEC prefixes. The debate concerns this table which includes columns comparing SI and Binary prefixes to describe storage capacity. We welcome your input

You are receiving this message because you are a member of WikiProject Linux --RaptorHunter (talk) 20:34, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Notification of nomination for deletion of GNU/Linux naming controversy
This is to inform the members of this Wikiproject, within the scope of which this article falls, that this article has been nominated for deletion at Articles for deletion/GNU/Linux naming controversy. - Ahunt (talk) 12:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Who wrote 3.0
The article is now public on lwn.net, and I think we can take advantage of this to improve our coverage of notable kernel hackers. I copied the last list of the article (the most consistent developers) here:
 * Linus Torvalds
 * David S. Miller
 * Greg Kroah-Hartman
 * Andrew Morton (computer programmer)
 * Christoph Hellwig
 * Alan Stern (software developer)
 * James Bottomley (software developer)
 * Randy Dunlap
 * Russell King (programmer)
 * Al Viro
 * Stephen Hemminger
 * Andi Kleen
 * Jens Axboe
 * Jean Delvare
 * Dave Jones (software developer)
 * Benjamin Herrenschmidt
 * Jeff Garzik
 * Ingo Molnar
 * Herbert Xu
 * Patrick McHardy
 * Dmitry Torokhov
 * Rusty Russell
 * Matthew Wilcox
 * Dave Kleikamp
 * Len Brown (software developer)
 * Oliver Neukum
 * Wim Van Sebroeck
 * Andrew Vasquez (software developer)
 * James Morris (software developer)
 * Neil Brown (software developer)
 * Trond Myklebust
 * Paul Mackerras
 * Bjorn Helgaas
 * Tony Lindgren
 * Nicolas Pitre
 * Stephen Rothwell
 * David Howells (software developer)
 * Eric Sandeen
 * Ralf Baechle
 * Arjan van de Ven
 * David Brownell

Jonathan Corbet is currently a redirect to lwn.net, an article on him might be a good thing to document his V4L work.

Any other thoughts ? Regards, Comte0 (talk) 12:41, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * List of Linux kernel names and List of programmers already exist; List of Linux kernel programmers might be a good article to create. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 20:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

article is largely useless
I'm wiki'ing LS because I don't know how to use it. How about putting some common DOS command equivalents? Like, how do I do "dir *.txt /s" with ls? "ls *.txt -R" doesn't work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.109.18.224 (talk) 19:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I strongly suggest that you read the fine manpages (use the  command) for the commands you are trying to use. Wikipedia is not a manual or howto guide, so we will not be adding a lot of that to our articles. Also, your Linux distribution should have online forums available where you can find basic FAQs and ask questions. It'd probably be a good idea for you to look them up. For your particular question, you need to place the switch before the arguments:   however, adding "*.txt" will not work as you expect, because the "*" glob works in the current directory and expands arguments prior to running the command. You really want something more like   Elizium23 (talk) 20:07, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article "Comparison of Windows and Linux" - bad things are being said about Linux. Please help!
The Wikipedia article Comparison of Windows and Linux has been heavily modified to deliberately distort the truth about Windows security versus Linux security, claiming that Windows is more secure and has vulnerabilities fixed faster etc. There's also more biased statements, recently added, which are deliberately trying to make readers' believe that Windows is faster than Linux in certain areas e.g. networking, graphics performance etc. I've spent months and hours of my spare time improving that page, only to find that a few editors have destroyed all that work. Please help!

Cheers. TurboForce (talk) 12:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I skimmed over the article and it doesn't seem overly lopsided, at least on the surface - but I don't know that much about the topic. I added a template calling for a WikiProject Computer Security expert onto what appeared to be the most contentious section. | Je mir (talk) 22:07, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Nominated for deletion: Comparison of Windows and Linux
This may of interest to some members here; I have proposed this article for deletion due to serious WP:SYNTH and WP:OR reasons. If you wish please comment on the deletion discussions. cheers. IRWolfie- (talk) 16:17, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Gnome proposal
I've proposed the creation of WikiProject Gnome. Please comment. &mdash; Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 13:06, 10 November 2011 (UTC)