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Are Royal Rumble match appearances acceptable as WP:PW/CAREER?
WP:PW/CAREER: Summarize the major events and key points of the wrestler's career... For example, consider Kelly Kelly (RR2018, RR2020, RR2022),, Michelle McCool (RR2018, RR2022, RR2023), and Torrie Wilson (RR2018, RR2021),. Only RR2018 was a notable appearance for all of them? Should we mention all RR appearances? Or can we summarize all of them; e.g. Kelly Kelly participated in the RR2018, RR2020, and RR2022.. Another point is the mentioned wrestlers are retired. What about active wrestlers? For example, Natalya never won a RR match but she has the most RR appearances. --Mann Mann (talk) 00:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I think the project had this discussion long ago... y 2 cents, no. People have the idea about notable matches. If the wrestler has a PPV match, it's notable. In a 30 wrestlers match, not every wrestler has a major moment. Maven eliminating The Undertaker? Yeah. Austin Theory being eliminated in a few minutes by Cody Rhodes? I don't see how that's a key point in his career. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * My opinion is 50-50 for RR. It is one of the biggest WWE PPVs. So participating in the RR match could be passable as notable match/appearance (like a WrestleMania moment). For example, the most notable moments of Xia Li's career are her participation in Mae Young Classic and four Royal Rumble matches. The rest of her career is just some TV matches and house shows. On the other hand, I agree with your points. For example, Dana Brooke has 6 RR appearances and 1 elimination. So except her first appearance in RR2018 (and the only time she eliminated another participant), the others feel nothing special: Enters the RR match, stays there for some minutes, and then someone eliminates her. --Mann Mann (talk) 13:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Of course, it's a case-by-case scenario. However, as I pointed, many articles include a WP:PROSELINE structure like "At Royal Rumble, participated as Number X and was eliminated by Y", which I don't see as a notable or key event of the career. On the other side, something like "Bobby Lashley feuded with Karrion Kross, elimintating each other on the Royal Rumble..." sounds better and fits into the storyline. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think if it is a part of storyline or feud (leading to a notable match), it should be mentioned. For retired wrestlers, I think RR match appearances could be summarized in one sentence. Because they count as sporadic appearances in my opinion. For other stuff, we can move them to their related sections; e.g. Natalya holding the record => Legacy or reception section. --Mann Mann (talk) 02:40, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Mann Mann, summarizing Royal Rumble appearances is fine for people like Kelly Kelly, Torie Wilson, and Michelle McCool since they're not in any sort of storyline in WWE that would need to expanding on certain eliminations or they didn't establish a record for longest time in a singular Royal Rumble or set the record for most eliminations in a single Royal Rumble. (Essentially agreeing).   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 08:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * This is the kind of thing that requires a bit of common sense and editorial discretion, rather than a black letter rule. Was the appearance notable? How was it notable? BoldGnome (talk) 11:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Agree. --Mann Mann (talk) 04:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

PWI Top Wrestler lists
What's the protocol on adding a wrestler's listing on each PWI top wrestler list to their articles - for an example, Miz is listed as the No.1 Wrestler for 2011, but would it be just bloating the list if I added, say, his ranking of No. 141 for 2023? AdmantCrow (talk) 22:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes. We keep it to the highest ranking per category.★Trekker (talk) 00:12, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! AdmantCrow (talk) 01:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


 * See WP:PW/CHAMPION: With regards to the PWI 500 and PWI Women's 250 rankings, only the wrestler's highest position is noted. --Mann Mann (talk) 04:37, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If we didn't keep it to one (or at least whatever their highest one was), some people would have 20+ entries.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:37, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Professional wrestlers who boxed amateurly and professionally
Can anyone please add some entries to Category:Professional wrestlers who boxed amateurly and professionally. Davidgoodheart (talk) 03:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)


 * This Google search shows the guys Cagematch.net has flagged as having a background in boxing. McPhail (talk) 09:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Frankly, why? First off, "amateurly" is not an actual word, so it needs to be renamed anyway. And participating in amateur boxing is not notable or defining unless it's a really high-level competition like the Olympics or a national Golden Gloves tournament, so I really have to ask why this category even needs to exist. oknazevad (talk) 11:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I also think the category should be renamed. amateurly and professionally looks like the wrestler performed under both categories, maybe amateurly or professionaly. (as OK said, other word than amateurly) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 13:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

It should be renamed. My suggestion: Professional wrestlers who competed in boxing --Mann Mann (talk) 14:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Inaugural champion
I see some users add "inaugural" to Championships and accomplishments section; e.g.. Is it okay? Because I don't see anything about including or excluding the term inaugural in WP:PW/CHAMPION. --Mann Mann (talk) 01:11, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Per WP:PW/CHAMPION: Other notes (such as oldest, youngest, first, last, only, etc.) are only covered in the relevant prose section and are not listed in this section. Pre  fall  01:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Inaugural has been avoided from years. I have removed from several articles. However, IPs and good faith users include it again and again. I think it's a lost cause. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Bob Holly accomplishments include an unrecognized reign
What's the point? His accomplishments section mentions "IC title, 1 time, unrecognized". Why not just remove it then? That unrecognized title reign doesn't even get mentioned in our List of IC Champions article. WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 18:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It should be removed per the consensus at Talk:List_of_WWE_Intercontinental_Champions since as far as I know there has not be a new consensus to overturn that one.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 02:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I just removed it. WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 21:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)