Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Star Wars/Archive 4

IMPORTANT: March/April roll call
Project members, please sign your name below. You may also write a brief blurb on what you're up to, but that's optional. This way, by the end of the month we know who is active and who isn't.


 * 1) Deckiller: Up to the usual stuff, working on the MoS a bit, looking around SW articles for information to add to this. Many, many other tasks in progress too :) Deckiller 00:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Tutmosis 02:15, 9 March 2006 (UTC) --Same things: trying my best to help out with the project, fixing and improving articles. Sometimes I am away for a day or two, really sorry for this.
 * 3) Xolatron Vao: Knights of the Old Republic articles + anti-vandalism. -Xol 02:42, 9 March 2006 (UTC) Heading Template:SW character color update. -Xol 02:27, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) The Wookieepedian 02:47, 9 March 2006 (UTC): Eh, mostly watching SW articles for vandalism, and working some on categories.
 * 5) American Patriot 1776 Been working on trying to cut down Palpatine.  If you want to help get it to FA, please leave some lines on its peer review page. American Patriot 1776 02:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Jedi6. Been working on the collaboration page, the Star Wars portal, the Wikiproject itself and creating templates/infoboxes. Jedi6  -(need help?)  03:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) Dmoon1: New member of project; not up to anything yet (sort of just observing for the moment). 02:36, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) Amina skywalker: Also a new member. As of right now: trying to correct grammar errors and typos whenever I come across them. Amina skywalker 13:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Dr. Mahogany Fixing some stubs, new articles, ect. Making some here and there
 * 10) Griz 18:44, 9 March 2006 (UTC) I'm here, just trying to find the time to work on articles, I might start editing some KOTOR things maybe NJO
 * 11) - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:48, 10 March 2006 (UTC) - Concentrating mostly on non-Star Wars stuff, but around and about to solve arguments or work on merges. - A Man In Bl♟ck  (conspire | past ops) 07:48, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) BryanG: Too much going on at college recently to do much here, but I've been doing some link disambiguation when I have the time. BryanG 21:18, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 13) Killioughtta  T /C  01:41, 11 March 2006 (UTC) - Not very active in this project right now but will be as soon as more times is available.
 * 14) wacko2: Haven't done anything in the past week. Probably will get back to the planets list sometime soon. -- wacko2 02:41, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 15) FirestormWorking on several things, such as browsing the Star Wars Category and its subcats, and reorganizing it. I think the main category was way too large in its previous form; i've narrowed the scope of it a bit and put more things into subcategories, creating some such as Category:Yuuzhan Vong. Firestorm 03:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 16) User:Dark jedi requiem: Adding new articles and improving old ones, like list of podracers and lightsaber.
 * 17) User:Masterv88: Ermmm... Adding pictures to articles (Mace Windu, Palpatine, Lightsaber, Darth Maul, Coruscant, Dantooine, Jedi, Harrison Ford, Plo Koon, Ki-Adi-Mundi, Darth Vader). Added a Template for "Wikipedians who play Star Wars Galaxies". -- Masterv88 21:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 18) Skope: New member ... Adding what I can to the List of Star Wars comic books and just all around getting a feel for this ... Skope 18:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 19) BinaryTed Stub merging where possible, list organization, general copyeditng. --BinaryTed 19:51, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 20) StarNeptune 07:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC): Minor edits (spelling, grammar, categories, accuracy).
 * 21) Mirlen 00:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC): I'll try to be around and help as much as I can.
 * 22) Master of Puppets 03:23, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 23) KdogDS 14:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC): I'll do what needs to be done.
 * 24) Weirdy 4:59, 3 April 06 (AEDST): Just checking around for vandalism and fixing up articles... (well, DUH!)
 * 25) PatCheng 07:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC): Thinking of changing Legacy of the Force book titles
 * 26)   _-M     o     P-_     14:35, 5 April 2006 (UTC): Going around seeing if I can do anything; have a userbox idea and am ready to make the Vibroweapon article into a real one if I get the go-ahead.
 * 27) Mipadi 21:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC): Still working on a massive revision of the Clone Wars article.
 * 28) Rafael Limones 17:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC): I would much rather have gone with Master Luke than stay here with you. I don't know what all this trouble is about, but I'm sure it must be your fault.
 * 29) Giga Bowser X 19:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC): Just doing a edits here and there
 * 30) Darthsidiousfan Planning to add an article about the Wroshyr trees on Kashyyyk. Btw, do we have pages in Castillian (Spanish)?
 * 31) Iliakkin  I can do an articlce on antyhing.  I want to help becuase i love star wars.
 * 32) New Subject, making new book articles to the Young Jedi Knights series. Weirdy 02:27, 24 April 2006 (UTC).
 * 33) Jedi fox i did the vibrowhip article, been helpin dbz and digimon, thinkin of doing a xanatos article if there isn't one yet 12:31P.M. eastern time April 25
 * 34) The Filmaker Fixing up Revenge of the Sith article for FA status. The Filmaker 16:05, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * 35) user: Lord Thyronous
 * 36) user:ouijalover
 * 37) VMAAXT New to the project, but mostly fact checking and watching for vandalism. --VMAAXT 21:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * 38) ILovePlankton
 * 39) Bobcheezy 15:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC) I'm new, but i'll try my best to help the Star Wars community

Comments

 * 1) Master of Puppets 03:23, 20 March 2006 (UTC): Working on creating a Vibrosword / vibroweapon article; anyone interested in helping?


 * I guess it's enough to warrent its own article. &mdash; Deckill e r 03:37, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Cool. I'll be sure to do it as soon as I'm finished this stupid homework.  M    o    P   03:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Is up at Vibroweapons.   _-M     o     P-_     00:13, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * User:07holsombd I am writing a book about an event called the Sub Wars. It isn't finished yet. It will take place after the Galactic Civil War and before the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion. If you have any ideas/suggestions please add your comments to my talk page.--07holsombd 17:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

User:superstarwarsfan HI, I'm new to this site, but I love Star Wars and I want to help. (If I am doing something wrong PLEASE tell me!)

List Project (from todo page)
Remaining lists:
 * List of Star Wars Dark Jedi
 * List of Star Wars families
 * List of Star Wars Imperial characters
 * List of Star Wars Galactic Alliance characters
 * List of Galactic Empire soldiers
 * List of Galactic Alliance soldiers
 * List of Star Wars ranks (all ranks should be included and explained on this list IMO)
 * List of Star Wars Sith characters (minor sith should be included and explained on this list IMO)
 * More to come?

Template
If you ever see a Star Wars template without a catergory please add the following code to the template:

Thank You. Jedi6 22:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Main project page: news section
Should we implement a news section on the main page? I think it would be intresting telling what the Wikiproject is up to or currently has done. Tutmosis 03:16, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Agree. Ultimately, I'd like to strucutre our project completely like WikiProject Final Fantasy, if possible. Deckiller 03:18, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Personally I like their to-do page. Its clean and organized. I think instead of making Things to Do Talk Page a redirect i think we should put all discussion in there. I think before items go off on our to-do lists it should be approved in that talk page. Also any other discussion regarding a specific article should go there too. Tutmosis 03:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Help page
I think we should make a help page. It would be a page to ask experienced Star Wars editors for help editing and for format. That way the discussion page can be used for discussing how things should be done and the help page to find help. Jedi6 -(need help?)  03:35, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * We could also make a list of experienced users with links to their talk pages to get help. Jedi6  -(need help?)  03:35, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Good idea, but i think we should put that into the upcoming Manual of Style page. Tutmosis


 * I'm going to be on a semi-Wikibreak for the next few days, but I already have the MoS in development stage. Deckiller 00:05, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Standardizing Quotes
I noticed a variation between quotes in the articles...Most of the quotes in the character articles are Italicized while others, like the Jedi article are not. Also, the matter of citing varies to. For quotes in which a character is speaking of another character, I understand that it should be: &mdash;[Insert character name]. But what about an excerpt from a sourcebook, chronology, etc.?

For example, shouldn't they be cited within parenthesis, like this:


 * "It is known, however, that the brightest and best philosophers, priests, and warriors came together on a single world long ago to discuss their discoveries involving the enigmatic, mystical Force, and that the concentration of these efforts eventually led to the development of the Jedi Order" (Star Wars Roleplaying Game: Power of the Jedi Sourcebook).

as opposed to the way it currently is in the Jedi article:


 * "It is known, however, that the brightest and best philosophers, priests, and warriors came together on a single world long ago to discuss their discoveries involving the enigmatic, mystical Force, and that the concentration of these efforts eventually led to the development of the Jedi Order." – . Star Wars Roleplaying Game: Power of the Jedi Sourcebook''.

So, what standards are we going by? Or is this something that is to be discussed later? &mdash;Mirlen 00:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I say do the second one for quotes from people and the first one if all their is is the source. I would always try to get who the quote was from though. Jedi6  -(need help?)  00:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I also think the excerpt should be in small letters as shown below:


 * "It is known, however, that the brightest and best philosophers, priests, and warriors came together on a single world long ago to discuss their discoveries involving the enigmatic, mystical Force, and that the concentration of these efforts eventually led to the development of the Jedi Order." – Star Wars Roleplaying Game: Power of the Jedi Sourcebook''.


 * I think it looks neater and more clear. Tutmosis 01:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Alright, so it is supposed to be in parenthesis. And as for the small letters, I'm not sure what my opinion is of yet.  Hm, I think perhaps we should have A Star Wars WikiProject Manual of Style Guide like Final Fantasy WikiProject does. &mdash;Mirlen 22:05, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Deckiller is making one currently. Jedi6  -(need help?)  01:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * First draft should be up this weekend. Sorry it's taking so long, but it's a work in progress. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:53, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Nice. I will gladly help once it's up. I bet it's discussion page will be interesting... -Xol 02:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Ditto. (I always seem to be a step behind :P). &mdash;Mirlen 23:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Color update
I recently updated Template:SW character and added color-standardization. For fear of mass protests, I let all previous usages work - so everything will look the same, but switching to the new sytle is recommended (by me). Please see its talk page. It uses a new "color=????" parameter that specifies the main affiliated faction. Comments? -Xol 02:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The grey color seems to be too light, but I'm fine with the grey. However, I'm not sure if it's really necessary to have the Portrayer section, however... &mdash;Mirlen 23:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I have three greys... a darker one for Imperials, and a lighter one for Indepentent, and the lightest for "no color given", which might have been what you saw - it's what automatically appears on the template page. I've make the Independent color a little darker, and then had the Empire be *dark* grey. And the CIS is black. And the Portrayer section has been in there for a long time. Along with height, it isn't really necessary, but could be useful. I'm trying to add a [show] link that will expand the table to have all of the properties, but normally hide ones such as portrayer. That's difficult though. -Xol 15:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I see. And Portrayer really was always there?  Huh, I'm so observant :P.  Anyway, maybe something more useful would be birth/date years, but if I'm outruled by majority, *shrugs* Portrayer it shall stay. &mdash;Mirlen 22:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Birth and death dates were once included, but consensus opted for including them as such: Jedi Shmoe (205 BBY – 150 BBY), either in the header or the name underneath the image (I'm not quite sure which). -Xol 00:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Todo page
I am going to do a major restructuring of the Todo page before putting the MoS on Wikipaper this weekend. Hopefully this will stimulate some activity and keep things organized. I'll try and adapt WPFF's concepets with my own. &mdash; Deckill e r 02:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Take your time, but not too much time ;). — Mir l  e  n  23:50, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Todo page is pretty much done, except for convos on each item (there seem to be few at the moment). &mdash; Deckill e r 00:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright :). (I seem to be adding smilies way too much...Oh well :P). — Mir l  e  n  22:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Anybody there?
Hey guys, I haven't seen anyone around in the last day or two. Everyone doing okay? &mdash; Deckill e r 17:15, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm here I just couldn't edit much the last few days due to computer problems. Everything does seem to be slowing down though. Jedi6  -(need help?)  19:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

In three
Given that they're doing the work for Star Wars in 3-D, perhaps someone could start the In-Three article? Seems to be a lot of info there. Nil Einne 23:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey guys
Hey guys, I know the WikiProject has been slow lately (several of us are on WikiBreak), and I've had some issues of my own. Nevertheless, I plan on sparking up some new activity in the next few days by talking to each and every one of you about what you feel like doing in this project. I'd like to see a bit more activity on this talkpage, though I do admit that it'll be easier once the MoS is completed (someone shoot me if I don't get it done soon!) &mdash; Deckill e r 23:10, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Cantina article on AfD
The cantina article has been nominated for deletion. While it doesn't have any SW info right now, it had some ealier this month before it was removed without comment. The thing is, the article didn't really have any info that wasn't already found elsewhere (like in Mos Eisley Cantina), so I'm not really sure what to do here. Any thoughts? BryanG 23:26, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I voted to change to disambig. &mdash; Deckill e r 15:39, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Manual of Style
Here's what I have so far: &mdash; Deckill e r 02:15, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Star Wars/Manual of style

Nice job! I've left some commentary on possible things to add/whatnot at WikiProject Star Wars/Manual of style. -Xol 01:02, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow&mdash;looks great! That must've took you a long time. — Mir  l  e  n  15:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks! 20-30 minutes :) But it's nowhere finished yet; we have to put detailed information on templates, each type of article/list, etc. &mdash; Deckill e r 15:40, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No, Deckiller, that's when you're supposed to say, "Yes, it took me hours!" :P. Just kidding, anyway, I'll add my two cents whenever needed, and I did say that I would like to help work on the MoS guide, so I'll try. — Mir  l  e  n  15:48, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Battle merging
We're going to have to "prosify" the endlss video game mission articles. See the Things to Do merge chart toward the bottom for several of them. What needs to be done is as follows:
 * Take the information from the "battle" articles and combine it into a plot summary for the game/mission section.
 * Redirect the battle articles to the game articles.

Star Wars barnstars will be given out to those who work on this extensively. Thanks! &mdash; Deckill e r 21:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Userbox question
I made this userbox, and Jedi6 thought I should make it into a real one; here it is; Just wanted to know what others thought.   _-M     o     P-_     12:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * It lives!!!!  Jedi6  -(need help?)  01:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Heh, that's awsome. Griz 20:40, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure about that image. If the original photo of the Death Star is copyrighted, surely you can't just take it, modify the rest of the image a bit, and release it into the public domain? --Darth Revert (AKA Deskana) (talk) 21:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about that but the Wookiepedia logo is under free use too. Jedi6  -(need help?)  00:02, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Quiz
Like Portal:Cricket, I think we should have a Star Wars quiz. That may help us seal the deal on featured portal status. The quiz should be a weekly set of, say, ten questions. I can put this together if you guys want. It's just something fun for people to do. The highest scores will be displayed somewhere, and we can just have a bit of fun with it. &mdash; Deckill e r 21:30, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Excellent, no feedback. That's a good thing, I can handle this how I want :) Expect the first quiz to be ready within a few days. &mdash; Deckill e r 23:55, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * That just means we trust you Deckiller! :-) I just hope people actually do the quiz. Jedi6  -(need help?)  23:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It's up :). I hope people do it too. Some are easy; some are hard. We may have to find an incentive system. &mdash; Deckill e r 00:06, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll do it. And ace it. Just a question, whats the content? Is the EU included or only film material?   _-M     o     P-_     00:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Everything and anything related to Star Wars. &mdash; Deckill e r 00:13, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Its up on the portal if anyone wants to do it. Jedi6 -(need help?)  00:16, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Game articles need major cleanup
Quite frankly, our coverage of Star Wars video games is not encyclopedic. Please see the various Final Fantasy articles for good examples of how video game articles should be. As a Star Wars project collaborator, I need users to:
 * Cleanup prose
 * Remove unencyclopedic content (such as "tips", "cheats", "hints", "how to" guides, and so on)
 * Replace "you" with "the player", "one", "the character", and so on.
 * Add influences, criticism (referenced), significance, etc.

&mdash; Deckill e r 02:07, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm on it. I'll start off with removing unencyclopedic content and replacing you/one/I/etc. with its proper terms. — Mir  l  e  n  15:36, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation
The formal message:

Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Arts WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! — Mir l  e  n  13:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

The informal message:

I don't know if we've been contacted yet, but according to this list, we haven't, and I would like to see SW articles on WP:1.0. — Mir l  e  n  15:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

List of articles to be submitted or needed to improved for WP:1.0 using these criteria.

G.A. status

 * Palpatine
 * Star Wars
 * The Star Wars Holiday Special
 * Darth Vader

Improvement
Our index is following basically the same exact format as this. Expect the reform to take place soon. &mdash; Deckill e r 22:05, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Mission to Devaron
Was just cruising through the main cat, and I found an article titled Mission to Devaron. I've had a squiz, and it sounds quite suspect, so I thought I would refer it to you guys and seek the professional opinion. -- Saberwyn 10:11, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Based on a survey of Wookieepedia articles, it appears to be from the comic Jedi: Aayla Secura. I've never read it, so I can't say more than that. I tagged it for cleanup, it might need to be merged but I'll leave that to someone who's more familiar with it. BryanG 17:49, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Movie titles
A few days ago, a user named Spongesquid moved four of the six movie articles. Apparently he thought, for stylistic reasons, that the colon should come after the episode number in the movie titles. While I can't find the details now, I thought that there was previously some agreement that the colon should come after the words "Star Wars". I really don't care which way the titles appear, but I do wish that there would be some consensus on this and then leave the titles permanently alone, because I hate having to change the wikilinks to the movies every so often. -- wacko2 22:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps there should be *two* colons... Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace. Sorry, I don't know about any past decisions about this. However, it should follow the standard title: subtitle method for movise/books etcetera, though I'm not exactly sure how that would apply. -Xol 00:09, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I would vote for the colon after the episode number just if people don't want two colons. -Xol 00:10, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * This is a tough decision. I'm basically neutral (I don't really mind), but if you want my honest opinion, I'd like to see it as Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. &mdash; Deckill e r 00:11, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The problem is that the official Star Wars site uses numerous ways to name the episodes. Also the style conventions doesn't seem to have anything about this mostly because no other movie would dare to have a title this long. Jedi6  -(need help?)  00:14, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IMHO, it should be Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace. The Wookieepedian 00:54, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I've never seen that one before, whats your source? Jedi6  -(need help?)  01:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IMDB, Yahoo and BBC listed it that way. But I don't think IMDB and Yahoo are reliable sources, and as for BBC, I'm not really sure. Lucas Arts lists it as Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace.  I don't really have a preferences, but I like the way The Wookieepedian suggested.  But probably the way with one colon is correct. — Mir  l  e  n  01:15, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I found the previous discussion on this issue, on the Episode III talk page. So take a look there if you want. Personally, for stylistic reasons I'd agree with the single colon after the episode number, e.g. Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. -- wacko2 04:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I say we do Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. If no one objects I say we just put that as the correct version in the manuel of Style. THen all the back to forth changes will be stopped since we will have an official styleing rule to refer to. Jedi6  -(need help?)  00:51, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

As I've brought up in the talk page of Episode III, I was the user who originally changed the titles too their current state (after explaining in the talk page). The reason for the change was that I noticed the differences between the formats on Wikipedia and on IMDB. I was suggesting we change it to Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith. I decided that the best possible source for the titles was the official site. Which has repeatedly had articles that refer to the films as Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith. After finding the same title format on the nominations ballot for the 2006 Oscars. I thought it warranted a change. I don't think it should be sent back to its original format, as it is the format I've seen the LEAST amount on the internet. If anything, we should change it to the IMDB format, since it has more punctuation. Otherwise, the titles should remain the same. The Filmaker 21:53, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually the official site has multiple ways of refering to the movies. Also Wookieepedia seems to use Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. I've never seen any Wikipedia articles with a dash and I doubt that it's allowed.  In the end this version just looks better (to me at least).  Jedi6  -(need help?)  22:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Change the title of all Star Wars movies to Star Wars Episode #: Episode Title

Support
 * 1) per my explanation above. Jedi6  -(need help?)  03:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Sounds good to me. -- wacko2 03:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) The Wookieepedian 03:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 4)  Mir l  e  n  - Although the official sites use all three ways, one colon seems to be prevelant above all.
 * 5) &mdash; Deckill e r 15:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) I've never seen a Star Wars film title used without a colon to separate the episode # from the episode name. -Xol 23:21, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) per my explanation above. The user Spongesquid most likely thought the titles should be that format because of the massive amounts of articles that still feature the old format. The Filmaker 21:53, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Dagobyte Dagobyte Dagobyte Dagobyte
There is a problem at Yoda. An IP editor is randomly adding Dagobyte into the article. It started with him trying to convince me that we should change Yoda's race to Dagobyte, but since I was unconvinced, he has been replacing random words with Dagobyte and won't stop. I'd like to request that people add this page to their watchlist to deal with this problem. I'm keeping my eye on it, and so are a few other editors from the looks of it. I suggest that any user which adds the word Dagobyte into the article inappropriately be given a  Yoda  on their talk page. That sound good? Dagobyte. Darth Dagobyte (AKA Dagobyte) (dagobyte page) 19:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC).


 * Sounds good, I'll watch it. -Xol 00:01, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Me too, DAGO-BITE-THE-DUST man! -GBX 20:00, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * This is starting to get ridiculous. Practically all the edits to the page are the Dagobyte vandal and he's now even taken a liking to vandalising my user page. I'd propose an IP-range block but it seems like they're registered to schools so an IP range block is unlikely to be approved. --Darth Deskana (Darth Talk) 08:08, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * He's on to us, quick, TO THE DEATH STAR! Anyway, I put a tag that will disable IP or recently registered users from edtiting on Yoda's Page. --GBX 12:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Inserting the   template onto a page does not protect it. If you would like the page semiprotected, visit WP:RfPP (requests for page protection) and add the appropriate request. --Darth Deskana (Darth Talk) 17:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Just did that --GBX 15:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Semi-protected Yoda I have. Jedi6  -(need help?)  23:54, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I have him now!!! You may fire when ready, commander.Destroy this Dagobyte vandal we must, or vandalize he will.--07holsombd 17:46, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

RelentlessRouge
Section Removed after 1 month of inactive status.

Converting references
Check out this string of edits I made tonight. This pretty much needs to be done on all Star Wars-related articles. It's a three step process ... First, I remove all of the Ibid. and duplicate links and just point all of the refs at the same note (although ref label would technically be more appropriate here, we're going to remove it in the next step so it doesn't really matter). Then I put the article through Ref converter. And finally, I go back in and use proper citation templates (such as cite book) to format all of the reference notes. It takes awhile but the result is a more clean-looking reference list and book data divided into useful metadata (which the cite templates do). -- Cyde Weys 05:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Ai, Ai Captain Cyde. Jedi6  -(need help?)  06:14, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, just when I was getting comfortable with the previous method of citing... -- wacko2 02:02, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Luckily, this one is easier to figure out! -- Cyde Weys  23:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

"Revelations" - great spin-off movie missing here
Well yes, I tried to edit the Category:Star Wars spin-off films page, but I don't exactly know how. I guess I would have to write a new article, but I can't. Here is some info about this movie: http://panicstruckpro.com/revelations/ They have free downloads as MOV or WMV there, but if you look further, you can also find BitTorrent downloads for HQ DVD images. Yours w-sky, 03 May 2006 (CET)
 * See Star Wars: Revelations. The Wookieepedian 02:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry guys
Sorry I haven't been around much lately; been very busy with IRL issues and the like. I should slowly pick my edits/day back up to 200-250 within a month. &mdash; Deckill e r 00:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Episode III up for FA Status

 * Read the article over, and if you wish, vote your thoughts. Judgesurreal777 23:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm back!!!!!!!
I'm back!!!!!! Good to be back :) What's new? &mdash; Deckill e r 19:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Update portal
Someone needs to update the feature article we picked Force (Star Wars) in April.--Team6and7 21:11, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on new FA
Due to the efforts of a large amount of contributors, Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith has passed FAC!!! - Tutmosis 22:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Vibroweapons - fair use image?
Continued from User_talk:R._Koot. Could we please have some consensus over wether the image is or is not fair use. Until then, I'd rather not have the page changed to a different state than it was in previously with only one editor favoring the new version, while all past editors seemed okay with the old one (including the image). – Xolatron 14:27, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Civil War vs. Second Sith War - which should be official name?
I know that both the Jedi Civil War and Second Sith War refer to the same war, but I'm wondering which is/should be official. Anons are often changing one to the other repeatedly, sep. in articles such as Sith. In Knights of the Old Republic I, it is always referred to as the Sith War, short for the Second Sith War. But in KOTOR II, it is the Jedi Civil War. I prefer the former because I feel that in KOTOR II, people don't really understand that the Jedi and Sith are so different, so they call it a "civil war", when they really are completely different. To quote KOTOR I, "Some people distrust the Jedi almost as much as they do the Sith. They don't understand either group". So, what are the opinions of everyone else? And what should we do for referring to it that won't cause people to change the name every day? – Xolatron 18:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

New proposed policy
Manual of Style (writing about fiction):

A new proposed policy would if passed, which I think is likely, will unofficially ask alot of rewriting to be done to Star Wars articles. Why? well if you read Describe this universe section, almost all articles I've come across speak in a "in-universe perspective" when the "out-of-universe source" is preferred. - Tutmosis 23:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * This may actually be a good thing, for it will turn star wars articles into professional encyclopedic articles, with ushers to Wookieepedia for detailed in-universe perspectives. It could become the definitive moment of this project. I'll just have to make sure I stay back this time :) &mdash; Deckill e r 23:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yea, I never said it was a bad thing, I'm just saying most articles will need a rewrite to comply with such a policy. - Tutmosis  23:53, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Just a clarification: The essay is a proposed guideline, not policy. Essentially, it would say "articles on fiction should look like this" rather than "articles on fiction must look like this or they will be deleted." ;) Incidentally, Dmoon1 recently rewrote Jabba the Hutt per this guideline, and I think that article has a good chance of becoming a featured now. — BrianSmithson 14:58, 30 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Right now, Wikipedia and Wookieepedia tend to duplicate each other's efforts a lot. I think it would help a lot to have Wikipedia deal with issues in a "real world" perspective, and link to relevant Wookieepedia articles when appropriate. – Mipadi 13:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of Template:Star Wars Portal
I just wanted to alert this wikiproject of the potential deletion of this template. The justification of the removal is that Template:Portal already exists and this is repetetive. I would go ahead and replace all instances of the template, but the image that you have used with the template appears to be deleted. I don't want to replace a ton of templates with a broken image. Get back to me if you would like me to replace the templates at a later time.-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t 14:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Bah, you beat me to it! Any replacement image can't be fair use is my understanding, so here's the link to Category:Star Wars on Commons. Either that, or we could use the default portal image as some of the similar projects are (Star Trek, Stargate, etc.). I really don't care, but it would be nice to have some input before the TfD people start replacing it. BryanG(talk) 01:28, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * What you could do is upload a blank image entitled "starwarsimage.gif" and we could replace the old template using that image. Then if you wanted to change it at a later date, you could just upload a new image and all of the portal images would be changed. As far as fair use goes I would suggest using something handrawn or rendered by a member of the wikiproject or otherwise who chooses to release all rights.-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t 01:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea - I'd say go with it if no one else speaks up within the next day or two. BryanG(talk) 04:32, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems that all of the templates have already been replaced by a bot. I think that if you all want to add an image at a later date it would be best to just ask the owner of the bot to run it through again.-- SomeStrang  e  r ( t 01:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Palpatine
I don't know if anyone around here noticed, but Palpatine has been delisted as a Good Article. See Talk:Palpatine. 131.96.202.20 21:17, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing that out. The comment accompanying the de-listing makes a good point: Too many Star Wars articles read like real, not fictional, articles. Keep that in mind when writing Star Wars articles. Save the "biography"-type stuff for Wookieepedia. – Mipadi 01:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * They are real! jk :p ILovePlankton 02:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Episode II article up for FA status
Please read Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones over and Support (or Object) to it gaining FA status! :) The Filmaker 03:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Key articles for Wikipedia 1.0
Hello! We at the Work via WikiProjects team for Wikipedia 1.0 would like you to identify the "key articles" from your project that should be included in offline releases of Wikipedia based on their importance, regardless of quality. We will use that information to assess which articles should be nominated for Version 1.0 (not yet open) and later versions. Hopefully it will also help you identify which articles are the most important for the project to work on. As well, please add to your Arts WikiProject article table any articles of quality articles|high quality]]. If you are interested in developing a worklist such as this one for your WikiProject, or having a bot generate a worklist automatically for you, please contact us. Please feel free to post your suggestions right here. Thanks! Walkerma 05:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I suggest the primary Star Wars article, George Lucas, and the six movies. &mdash; Deckill e r 18:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Expanded Universe (Star Wars) also needs to be included. The Wookieepedian 18:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the list! We already have the main Star Wars article approved for Version 0.5. I'll add these into your table, please feel free to update this list. Thanks! Walkerma 17:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Battle articles
Category:Star Wars battles needs a lot of work. Many of these battles are basically episode summaries of an episode of the Clone Wars, or a chapter summary of the climax of a novel. This information needs to be placed into its appropriate source article; see WP:FICT. I've been working on this, but my Star Wars-fu is very limited with all this new clone wars stuff coming out. &mdash; Deckill e r 20:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Generally speaking, only battles like Battle of Hoth of Battle of Geonosis really deserve their own article, since they are depicted in multiple sources (movies, books, games). Things that appear in, like, Battlefront II and a clone wars novel (or one of the two) violate number four of WP:FICT, which recommends keeping plot summary in the respective article, especially since most of the source articles are stubs anyway...&mdash; Deckill e r 20:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Lists up for AfD
We currently have several lists up for AfD. While I agree with most of them, I do disagree with two or three; ones that were designed to contain minor articles about their topics. I have been trying to show that one sentnece in the policy was created as a safeguard, and that the policy itself is not set in stone for the issues addressed. I'm not asking you guys to go vote en masse, but if you would like to contribute an intuitive and detailed arguement to either side, please feel free. AfD is not a war, and Wikipedia is not a contest, so if you are personally offended by the recent AfD pushes, don't get mad at Mike. He's just following his own interpretation of how Wikipedia should be run. I have mine, you have yours, and I think that this little incident can really spark us to continue our quest to turn star wars articles into encyclopedic entries. &mdash; Deckill e r 23:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * List of Star Wars Battles
 * List of heroes in Star Wars: Battlefront II
 * List of vehicles in Star Wars: Battlefront II
 * List of units in Star Wars: Battlefront II
 * List of Star Wars vehicles
 * Star Wars ship names
 * List of Star Wars references
 * List of films with Star Wars references
 * Plants from Star Wars universe
 * List of Star Wars companies
 * List of Star Wars organizations
 * List of Star Wars devices
 * List of Star Wars diseases
 * List of major Star Wars deaths
 * List of Star Wars creatures
 * List of Star Wars conflicts
 * List of Star Wars comic books
 * List of Star Wars books
 * List of Star Wars authors

Psst. WP:RFA is Requests for Adminship. Those lists are on WP:AFD, Articles For Deletion. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 21:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * WOAH. Nice catch. Shows how much time I've been spending on RfA. In a sense, "RfA" COULD be stretched: Requests for Annihilation. Then again...RfA can get as nasty as AfD :) &mdash; Deckill e r 21:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

New ideas
I'm sorry if I appear stressed out over the recent AfDs, it's just that things take a lengthy step-by-step process, and when that process is interrupted, it actually does more harm than good. That is the issue with fictional articles &mdash; leave them untouched, and they may blossom into encyclopedic masterpieces.

Anyway, that aside, I was skimming through some of the major movie battles. Most of them are still all plot summary. However, Endor and Yavin briefly describe similarities to real battles. There needs to be an out of universe SECTION made on stuff like that. "Influences". There also needs to be a "significance on other literature" section, and perhaps a "criticism" or "development" section. Learning how Lucasfilm created, say, the Battle of Endor will turn the article into an encyclopedic, out-of-universe prose piece, in lieu of a mere plot summary. WP:NOT may see a new rule: articles with all plot summaries are not allowed; articles must balance in-universe synopsis with out-of-universe sections." &mdash; Deckill e r 21:27, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Merging Droids

 * 1) Taipan198: Okay, I'm sorry. I'm a n00b (newb) at Wikipedia, and I really don't know where to post this. But I'd like to make a suggestion. On List of Star Wars starfighters I believe there's a mistake. You've placed Droid Star-Fighter and Vulture Droid as two separate droids. The Droid Star-Fighter and Vulture Droid are the same thing. The only difference between them is that they are produced by a different manufacurer and have a slight colour design change. They are still considered to be the same according to the Official Star Wars Database, [found here]. I believe that they should be merged together. Talk to me when someone replies. Sorry about mistaken instrusion again. Regards, Taipan198:

New article: Hyperspace (Star Wars)
Hyperspace is an integral part of the Star Wars universe, yet we don't have a cohesive article on it. I propose creating an article such as Hyperspace (Star Wars). Information contained in articles such as Hyperwave Inertia Momentum Sustainer could then be included in such an article, instead of in their own. – Mipadi 16:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * As long as it has plenty of info to warrant its own article, because there will probably be some merge-hounds after you saying there's no need for this separate article. But yes, I support your proposition. --Skope 16:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I would rather place all our important hyperspace information in Hyperspace (science fiction) or Hyperdrive, but I'm afraid that would grow to encompass too much Star Wars-only information. – Mipadi 17:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Another idea is to create a general Technology of Star Wars page for all devices and technology, with a subarticle or two if necessary. &mdash; Deckill e r 17:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid such an article would be deleted for being an "indiscriminate collection of knowledge", although if written well, it could work out. – Mipadi 17:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Nah, it won't be deleted if it is written in a format similar to Spira (Final Fantasy X). If anything, it would make for an easy featured article that a list or several articles on other topics couldn't even consider. As a matter of fact, I userfied Star Wars devices to try and prosify it ^_^. &mdash; Deckill e r 17:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think something like that would be great, if we could write about the technology of Star Wars in a general sense and tie it back into the "real world" in some way, and wrap in the discussion of devices, instead of writing it purely in a list format. – Mipadi 17:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this is one of the things I wanted to get across on the creatures and devices list RfAs. If anyone else wants to help out, I have it userfied on User:Deckiller/Star Wars devices :) &mdash; Deckill e r 17:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Portal image
What are we going to do about replacing the puzzle piece image for the Star Wars Portal? (or can we replace it) I mean, I'm a Photoshop fiend, so I could make whatever yall want. Are we not allowed to use certain images? Does it have to be something created by a user, not a copyrighted image? ...and kinda the same question with the userboxes. I mean, it's a great image of a lightsaber when it's 800px wide, but when it's down to 40px, it's a 1px wide shiny toothpick. --Skope 20:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Encyclopedic push details (part one)
For those of you who read the newsletter, here are a few of the details:


 * We should start with Star Wars technology, creating a full article that broadly encompasses communications, travel, vehicles/ships, weapons, devices, and other technology. The article would briefly explain key in-universe information, dicsuss influences and appearences, significance, and so on.
 * Naturally, there will still be articles like Droid and so on (but only when absolutely needed).

A few people have discussed their agreement on my talkpage, so I think it would be easiest to explain it by showing an example. Over the next several days, User:Deckiller/Technology of Star Wars will display this concept in an article format. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Still on copyedits?
(I'm not sure where to put this, but anyway...) The Yuuzhan Vong invasion page is on the list for copyediting. I just spent the better part of 20 minutes (for me, that's a long time) on editing it, and I think it can now be taken off of the Extensive Copyedits list. Read it and see! Teh tennisman 20:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice work. Ideally, I'd like to see sections on historical/fictional parallels, and perhaps development commentaries. &mdash; Deckill e r 20:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I can possibly add some developmental things, but I really don't know stuff outside of the series itself relating to it. Someone else will have to work on parallels and such, I'm mostly editorial and book-facts. Teh tennisman 01:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

massmerges
We've got a big load of merge tags popping up on the articles for individual comics courtesy of CovenantD. Thus far it's been limited to Empire and Knights of the Old Republic, but it'll get around the rest eventually I guess. Just letting yall know what was going down if you have an opinion on the matter. I guess I'd be a eensy bit biased on the matter. —Skope 18:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It might not necessarily be a bad idea to merge thm all into the main article if the plot is summarized and it's covered genrally. &mdash; Deckill e r 19:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * ...or perhaps into story arcs instead of the whole thing in one article? —Skope 20:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That would be a pretty good idea, as well &mdash; it would also allow us to merge all those battle articles (many of which are contained in a clone wars list). &mdash; Deckill e r 20:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan to me. —Skope  (talk)  20:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I know nothing about star wars comics, so we may need someone who is an expert on the subject. &mdash; Deckill e r 20:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've read them all, save for the 1970s Marvel comics. —Skope  (talk)  20:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

One of the HUGE problems with many of the articles that are being tagged for merge (and yes, I will eventually get around to all of them unless somebody else beats me to it) is that they appear to violate copyright laws. Skope, where exactly are you getting the text you call "Publishers description?" And please tell me that the "inside front cover" text isn't a direct copy of the inside front cover... CovenantD 20:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm soon to go around and delete all of those "inside front cover" parts, don't worry. I've realized the error of my ways, and have removed all of the ones I added.  And the publisher's descriptions are from all over the place: their website, amazon, other online vendors with info of their product, to which I link to in external links.  Oh, and unless you just really want to add 150 more merge tags, you don't have to worry about going after the other sets (Republic, Legacy, Rebellion, and X-wing Rogue Squadron).  I'll go with whatever is decided on in the KOTOR and Empire surveys and do the same to the rest. —Skope  (talk)  20:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Your offer to accept the results as applying to all the similar articles is very gracious - thank you. I'm gonna have to go find a barnstar for you :-) As for the publishers descriptions, as long as you're not taking them word for word from another source it should be okay. Writing a summary in your own words would be even better, since you have read them all. CovenantD 21:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Additionally, merging the comic "battles" depicted in List of minor Clone Wars battles and Category:Star Wars battles would be an excellent way to provide a foundation for some of the story arcs. I also think Battle of Jabiim serves as a story arc, so there's another gold mine. &mdash; Deckill e r 21:50, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, I kinda am taking them word for word from another source. *sheepish grin* And believe it or not, I've already gotten warned/reprimanded/scolded/or whatever about the whole descriptions and cover things by another admin.  I'm in discussion with him as we speak about my presumption that the description use is/was thought to be fair use. —Skope  (talk)  22:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * As long as you learn from this and take corrective measures :-) And for the record, I'm not an admin, just an editor who's spent a lot of time reading up on Wiki policies. CovenantD 22:19, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly. However, I am an admin, and I am ashamed that I let this slip under my radar. Extreme copyvios are often criterion for speedy deletion, not to mention other policy violations. Wookieepedia does it (which I tried to warn them about), but that doesn't justify its practice on Wikipedia. Fortunately, however, the arc merges will do two things: first, they will remove the copyvios; and second, they will compress information scattered on numerous "battle articles" and whatnot. &mdash; Deckill e r 22:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Alrighty, it's all decided now. The descriptions are out the door.  Darn admins-who-are-also-lawyers =P  .... I've finally had Fair Use explained to me in a way that I can understand it.  The article on here was just out of my mind's reach.  I guess I'll have to hone my summary-writing skills now so the articles lacking them will have some content besides intro and template.  So do we actually have to wait for the merge surveys to play out, or can I just go ahead and get onto merging stuff, since I made pretty much all of the articles in question? —Skope  (talk)  22:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Go for it. I don't think anybody is going to object. CovenantD 22:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed; it's usually a good idea to be bold about minor merges. &mdash; Deckill e r 22:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Plus we already have enough comments to get a sense of which way it's going to go. CovenantD 22:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, so what do y'all think about this? —Skope (talk)  23:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like a very good start. &mdash; Deckill e r 00:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

So what do I do with the one-shots in the series? —Skope (talk)  21:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I guess they can have their own article. &mdash; Deckill e r 02:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Spoiler tags up for deletion
Thought you guys might be interested in weighing in on this debate-- someone is requesting the removal of spoiler tags. -plange 01:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's a good wikifriend of mine, and I do agree with him to a degree. However, I don't necessarily mind either way, so I haven't contributed much to the debate. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

New-ish article
I recently greatly expanded the Praesitlyn article, but the only facts I had were those from the book Jedi Trial. I would greatly appreciate it if someone who had any more information could add to it, or just edit it to where it is easier to read and any factual errors are fixed. If there is nothing, I will remove the stub lister. Signed,   Teh tennisman 01:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * We might want to integrate the text back into the planet list if it can't get any larger than that, or if it's not covered by more than one source/story. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That was my thought except for the fatc that I think that book needs an article, or to at least be included with something Clone Wars-ish. Teh tennisman 01:18, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, the book merits its own article. If the book can get its own article, a lot of this info can be summed up in the plot synopsis on the article, so it's not a retelling. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:18, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The book has its own article. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Here's something else that can be integrated into the synopsis: The Praesitlyn Conflict. If we can get all that information into the synopsis while highlighting the planet on the list, I think we can have a very nice compromise between everyone. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh it has an article? well then...you're the admin, should we/you merge them? as long as my text is kept, i don't really care either way. Teh tennisman 01:22, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't realize it had so much info. Might as well merge w/out my stuff. Teh tennisman 01:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, considering that both are plot points in one book (and not mentioned elsewhere), I think it's fair to combine the information into a plot synopsis. What it does is it still keeps the information (thus satisfying the inclusionsits) while placing it inside of a synopsis on the book article (which satisfies the deletionists), while at the same time merging redundancies. Plus, thanks to Wikipedia's history and editing system, we can always revert if it receives objection (which I highly doubt). In reponse to your last comment &mdash; always put priority on how you describe it, unless you think the other article does a better job. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The other article is longer and has more info; I didn't have the book on hand when I wrote the Praesitlyn article, so the conflict article is most likely better. I say merge and then delete redundancies, like you said. Teh tennisman 20:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A note on the book article: It sucks! I did a bunch of copyediting, and I think we should replace the book article with my Praesitlyn article. It could also use to include some mention of the lovers from the Praesitlyn army (Erk and what's-her-name) after the merger. Teh tennisman 21:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The article must be on the book, not the synopsis. We are an out of universe source, so we have to take an out of universe perspective. The Praesitlyn information should be included in the synopsis of the book article. The book article shoudl also have development information from the author, in addition to reception and criticism. &mdash; Deckill e r 04:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

AfD RuneScape
There is currently a proposal to delete all articles for RuneScape as they are based on fancraft and therefore inappropriate for Wikipedia. As this extensive project and its articles can also be considered as fancraft I have utilised for comparison only a selection of 4 categories and approxiamately 60 articles from your project to demostrate the scope of what is being proposed.

This discussion is taking place at Articles for deletion/RuneScape armour (2nd nomination).

None of the articles from your project mentioned in this discussion are proposed for deletion, this notice is only to advise interested parties of these article that these pages have been referred to at AfD. Gnangarra

Barnstar
Gang sta  EB  ~(penguin logs) 23:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Love it! &mdash; Deckill e r 00:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Episode I FAC
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace is now up for featured article candidates! The Filmaker 00:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Star Wars comics

 * Take a look at this: Category:Star Wars comics. All those pages on single issues?! Come on now, they all aren't notable. This is Wikipedia, not a comic site where you post each and every issue and what it's about. This problem was mentioned at the Comics Project talk page as well (last month). It was said, it was getting cleaned up. From the looks of it, it is far from cleaned up. RobJ1981 03:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a shame that this wasn't fixed yet. Someone did promise to fix it, but they never did...&mdash; Deckill e r 04:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm getting on it. I've only gotten to KOTOR and Rebellion so far.  My summer job finally kicked in, so that's slowed me down, and I've been away from internet connection for the past week or so.  But just so you know... I haven't abandoned it. —Skope  (talk)  18:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe others should help out with this serious problem. RobJ1981 05:44, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't mind the help. I've got a lot on my plate right now, so I can't just sit here and wiki all day long.  Monday, I will be able to though.  But if anyone wanted to help, it's pretty straight-forward.  Just look at the arc articles I've done so far and do the same bit.  I've been just combining the synopses and dramatis personae from the individual pages into the arc.  And with the DP, just combine them in alphabetical order and delete the repeated names.  If you don't know how to (or just don't want to) mess with the covers, you can just leave it to me.  And then redirect the individual issues to the Story Arc, then de-link the issues in the "Issues" list (both in the article and the series article). .... I know that all might sound complicated but it's not. —Skope  (talk)  16:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Todo archives
Todo list has been archived &mdash; time to start fresh. &mdash; Deckill e r 20:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Characters
Recently someone has been moving information about minor characters out of lists to articles with "(Star Wars)" behind their names (ie Adi Gallia (Star Wars). The intuitive titles all still seem to be redirects to the lists, though he's removed all mention of them. I put merge tags on the ones I could find, you should be able to find them in my contributions from today.--Cúchullain t/ c 20:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I think they should be moved rather than merged, if the topic even needs its own article. Dmoon1 20:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * They should all be merged back into their respective lists, and while we're at it, we should pick up the stubby character articles that have slipped through our fingers, as well :) &mdash; Deckill e r 20:26, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Sounds fine to me. Some of the articles are fairly long, though, like the Adi Gallia one, but something needs to be done.--Cúchullain t/ c 20:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It was this long when it was removed from List of minor Star Wars Jedi masters, but some of the excess detail could be probably be trimmed. Dmoon1 20:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. Superkeerby August 9, 2006

I think I got all of them. I remerged them "as is", since the editor who moved them into separate articles seemed to do little more than that. Dmoon1 04:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Phew, many thanks. &mdash; Deckill e r 05:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

The Jedi Religion
I stumbled across the Jedi Religion page while doing an internet search. First let me say that the page is just a list of references to other pages and does little to explain The Jedi Religion as an encyclopedia should. Secondly I couldn't help but notice that The Jedi Religion is listed as a parody religion. I don't think that this is an accurate description as many people sincerely subscribe to the Jedi Religion. Something should be done to rectify this situation. 71.243.118.2 12:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)