Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Virginia/Archive 2

Virginia Wines
There does not appear to be any information on Virginia wines/wineries/Virginia Wineries Association on Wikipedia. I think this is something that should be written about as an emergent part of the economy--especially in the Charlottesville area, but also in Loudoun County and near Williamsburg and I recall reading that Virginia is number 3 or 4 as far as number of wineries in a state go. Anyone care to assist me on this? I don't really know how to create a page or anything, but I'd like to give it a try.--Velvet elvis81 18:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I was surprised there wasn't an article. Here's an article on Oregon wine, that you can use as a basis on creating a Virginia wine page (just click on the red link and start typing away!).  If you're worried about format, just be sure to start off with something like  "Virginia Wine refers to wine that is produced in the Commonwealth of Virginia."  If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or contact me on my talk page. ~ (The Rebel At) ~  14:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Paramount's Kings Dominion should be reassessed
Paramount's Kings Dominion was assessed as Start-class last year; I have been working on it since last summer. This article is now almost complete; most of the bullet-point attraction lists have been converted into brief, but detailed, histories of each of the park's attractions. In addition, the article now has pictures and three dozen different sources. Could somebody look at the current version of the article, reassess it, and leave any comments/suggestions on Talk:Paramount's Kings Dominion? After I finish the other two sections, I'd like to see about getting it a good article nomination or a peer review.

This is the only WikiProject that Paramount's Kings Dominion is part of, since there is no WikiProject for amusement parks. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 05:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If no one else gets to it, I'll give it a look over in the next several days. I did glance at it, and it certainly has blown past the "start" category of assessment. ~ (The Rebel At) ~  14:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I ranked it as b. I know there is a formal process somwhere to get a rating higher than that.  (at least as far as I know).  If there is not, somebody else can feel free to put a higher rating.  It has prety good inline citations.  The intro section was a little short and the starting sections were a little sparse with the citations.  overall alot better article. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Good job so far on the King's Dominion article! There's still a few red links to get rid of, and the article could use a good copyedit, but it's getting closer to good article status. You might also want to move the timeline of rides to a separate page, linked under 'see also'. Maybe create a 'list of rides and attractions' page? Dr. Cash 17:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Images of City/County Shields
I have noticed that on many of the City and County articles in Virginia that the shield images are now red links. I know that they were deleted because they did not have the appropriate fair use tag. I want to know if somebody can revert the deletion so that I can place the proper fair-use tagging on those images. I am asking this because it is hard to find seals for some of the cities and counties that have missing shields. If you would like to contact me for more information leave a note on my talk page. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 15:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I noticed this, and was disappointed. I'm not sure how to go about retrieving them, but hopefully something can be done towards their replacement.~ (The Rebel At) ~  22:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

UPDATED because I didn't notice how bad my typing was. I am sorry for looking like I was a weird person. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 00:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Richmond, Virginia
The article on Richmond, Virginia has just attained good article status. Could use a few more inline citations, and some more photos, and I think it will be on the road to featured status. Dr. Cash 17:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats great to hear. I tried to beat up some activity here a month or two ago without any results, but perhaps we can do a collective work on Richmond.  ~ (The Rebel At) ~  22:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Notice board for Virginia-related topics/It's new
Take a look @ this. Kindly add up the links to new pages here. Thanks Sushant gupta 07:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Project needs a leader?
Ever since Plange and T Rex went on hiatus, it seems to me that this Wikiproject has not had much momentum. I think we need a leader/coordinator. I'm happy to help and do some grunt work, but I don't think I'm up for leading a Wikiproject. Do we have any aspiring project coordinators in our group?-- Kubigula (talk) 15:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I was the first to get things rolling (project idea and the not so snazzy photo on top), but I'll happily admit, the grunt work was done entirely by Plange, bless her heart. As is, my life has become too hectic for me to make a significant contribution in the position of a leader, either.  I do have time to be a good minion. :)   ~ (The Rebel At) ~  22:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, nobody has jumped in with an offer to helm this sucker, so I guess we'll just muddle along the best we can. Any thoughts on what we need to do to get this project moving?  I'm thinking the next orders of business should be to: (1) try to get all the appropriate articles tagged and assessed as part of the project (I've been working on this); (2) Identify the articles that most urgently need attention; and (3) guage the actual interest of the folks who've signed on and try to get them engaged - perhaps some kind of newsletter or individual talk page contact?.  By the way, Rebel, I really like the photo on top.-- Kubigula (talk) 04:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks about the pic, Kubigula. It sounds like you've got a good game plan.  I know that Plange had developed a newsletter.  We'll have to uncover its location and vamp up a new version, but its certainly doable (a link to the newsletter was placed on talk pages).  As for article identification, I'd reckon it'd be articles on important topics such as places or people that are the items that best represent Virginia.  This selection could be problematic, or it could just take one person putting up a suggestion.  ~ (The Rebel At) ~  21:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Found the newsletter location here. Feel free to work on it, and I'll try to do the same this week as well. ~ (The Rebel At) ~  22:21, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool - it's a start. I'm not sure what to put in the actual newsletter, other than to suggest project members put this page on their watchlist, if they haven't already, and to please work on some VA articles.-- Kubigula (talk) 03:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

New articles
Dear Wikipedians, a list of possible Virginia-related articles found by bot is available at User:AlexNewArtBot/VirginiaSearchResult. Colchicum 15:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Colchicum, thanks for the list! ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 18:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

April 16 2007 Va Tech Wikiproject Virginia members
Today as most if not all of you know was a really terrible day at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg. The tragedy there will touch families across the Commonwealth and beyond. Some of those involved as victims may include other Wikipedia editors, as we have some really bright students among the thousands working on Wikipedia. I also hope that no one in WikiProject Virginia, obviously a much smaller group of us, was involved. Of course, with WP, many of us do not even use our real names; Wolstenholme Towne was less than 2 miles from my home, which is on part of the old Martin's Hundred, but the massacre near here was in 1622, almost 400 years ago. I will pray for everyone involved with the current tragedy and hope this didn't hit closer to home for us in this group than we already know.
 * Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia Vaoverland 01:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

User page content
FYI, if anyone would like to add a ribbon to their user page, you can use Virginia Tech ribbon to place a small orange and maroon ribbon in the top right corner of your user page (similar to the administrator icon) or you can add Image:Orange and maroon ribbon.svg anywhere you would like. --BigDT 03:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Proposed new WikiProject
Hi there, I've decided to propose a new project dedicated to Richmond, Virginia. Leave you comments here if you wish. Neldav 21:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Hampton Roads area photos
I will be contributing lots of these very shortly, especially of the Peninsula cities and counties.

--icemachine79 17:27, 09 May 2007 (UTC)

I live in Hampton Roads, so y'all keep me apprised. :) --Carla Hufstedler 21:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation of "Botetourt"
I added this to the discussion page at Botetourt County, Virginia, and am reposting it here for higher visibility:

"Botetourt" is pronounced "BOTTAH-tot" by locals, not "BOW-tuh-tort". I would add the pronunciation to the article myself, but don't know how to translate the pronunciation into IPA symbols. Someone who can, should. Porkchopmcmoose 03:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * In all fairness, go ahead and post it the way you did here. Eventually, someone will come along and translate it into the IPA symbols.  Personally, I prefer the non IPA manner, as they're easier for the layman to read and understand.<font color="#3333CC">~ <font size="1" color="red">(The Rebel At) ~  14:26, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Radio/TV Station Talk Page Template Question
I know on radio and TV stations in other states the WikiProject Talk Template is placed on that stations page, but I haven't seen it on any VA stations. Should I had the WikiProject Virginia Talk Template to each of the radio and TV stations in Virginia? Just wondering. Take Care....<font color="#000099">NeutralHomer T:C 03:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see no reason not to include them, so long as they are clearly VA only stations. -- Kubigula (talk) 18:16, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I tagged all the VA radio and TV stations with the WikiProject Virginia talk page template. I have a question on two though.  Since WVVA is technically licensed to Bluefield, WV, but studios are in Bluefield, VA, what should I do there?  Also, WJLA, techincally licensed to Washington, DC, but has had studios in the old Newseum building in Rosslyn, VA for about 4 years now (I think...could be more).  Should either WVVA or WJLA be included?  Take Care...<font color="#000099">NeutralHomer  T:C 05:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Considering that they are a part of Virginia, I think that they should be tagged in the Virginia project, since there would most likely be an audience from Virginia. I would think that they should also be tagged as part of the project in the area in which the station is licensed as well. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 20:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the guiding principle is that if the subject relates to VA and you have an interest in it, go ahead and tag it. If we have members with an interest and a willingness to improve any given subset of articles, then that is a net benefit to the wikiproject and wikipedia as a whole.  No worries.-- Kubigula (talk) 21:09, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I added the VA and WV talk templates to WVVA and the VA (located), DC (licensed), MD and WV (serves-DMA) to WJLA....I added all in the hide/show WikiBanner so it clears up the page.
 * My next project is to completely update the List of Radio Stations in Virginia, like I did with the list in West Virginia. I would like it if the template I use for both is uniform across the board....but one step at a time.  Take Care.....<font color="#000099">NeutralHomer  T:C 21:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Is this thing dead?
Is this project still active, I've been away from it for half a year. <font face="Verdana" >T Rex  | <font face="Tahoma">talk  23:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think its so much dead, as somewhat, well, hibernating. There are people want to work, but really no one who has the time to step into a leadership position and lead the way. <font color="#3333CC">~ <font size="1" color="red">(The Rebel At) ~  00:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe not a lot of activity on the WP Virginia page itself, but lots of work going on in the increasing number of WP Virginia articles, with many additional ones now rated. Imagine that: A WikiProject with workers and and a lack of bureaucratic leadership activity. If only the real Virginia were more that way! ::Mark in Historic Triangle Vaoverland 14:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

VA article GA or Featured
Does anyone want to help Kubigula and me to get the main Virginia article to at least Good article status, possibly even featured? <font face="Verdana" >T Rex  | <font face="Tahoma">talk  10:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Only four state articles (including WV and NC) are at GA status, and only one (Minn) is FA class. Getting the Virginia article at least up to GA would be a nice feather in the cap of this project, and if the NC and WV editors can do it, I am confident that we can too.  I have begun reviewing the article and will try to post later today on the article's talk page as to my view of its status and needs.  I hope others will join the effort.-- Kubigula (talk) 17:29, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll help any which way I can with my semi-limited resources. Presently, the majority of my library is packed away in boxes. But, alas, that never stopped Batman...and that makes no sense. Ignore that. Sure, I'll help!<font color="#3333CC">~ <font size="1" color="red">(The Rebel At) ~  01:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just let me know what ya need help on and I will do my best to help. My fields of knowledge are history on the Northern Shenandoah Valley and Hampton Roads and Radio and TV stations throughout the state.  Take Care...<font color="#0000C8">NeutralHomer  T:C 05:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I am also willing to help. Vaoverland 05:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I will also help in any way needed to make this article the best it can be --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 12:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Outstanding. Many of the sections need some copyediting, and almost all need more inline citation.(I'll copy the rest of this comment to the article talk page and suggest we continue the conversation there)  T Rex is right that there should probably be a culture section too.  Please pipe in if you have ideas, but general copyediting would help or perhaps taking an individual section and running with it.  I think I'd enjoy working on the Laws and Government section, though I'll defer if someone else wants it and I'll commit to working on whatever's left.-- Kubigula (talk) 04:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I will do my best to help, but some bad news today might take me offline for this upcoming weekend, but then I will be available. Take Care....<font color="#0000C8">NeutralHomer  T:C 05:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm on this. I think we can get it to GA by the end of the year.  I've purged a lot and split Virginia into new articles.  The main problem right now is the writing style and the lack of citation.  And the lack of a Culture section, let alone a Culture of Virginia article.  Best--Patrick Ѻ 15:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Good work so far. I'll try to get in gear and help!-- Kubigula (talk) 04:27, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

FYI - Virginia is up for Good Article. The review was favorable, though the outcome is on hold pending additional referencing. Anyone with an inclination can certainly help.-- Kubigula (talk) 15:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Zip code request
I began the page, added data, added stub codes, added the project info to the talk page...and was almost immediately contacted by someone from the deletion watch, instructing me how to proceed or the article would be deleted. I did exactly as was told, noted that on that page's talk page, and on my own (where the notice was placed)...and not 20 hours later, the page has been deleted. I have no idea how to proceed. I was so careful to make it known that the page was requested by this project, name it as a stub (VA stub and VA geo-stub), give the VA footer, and add the project's banner to the talk page--plus I added prelim zip code data. Then, I followed directions to keep its deletion from going forward... Protocol got me nowhere. Any suggestions? :( Carla Hufstedler 23:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * zip code page: List_of_ZIP_Codes_in_Virginia; Talk:List_of_ZIP_Codes_in_Virginia
 * related activity on my own talk page: User_talk:Carla
 * Welcome to the WikiProject and thank you for your efforts. Sorry for this experience - I know it's aggrevating to spend time on something only to have it deleted.  Apparently there was a fairly recent AfD - Articles for deletion/Lists of ZIP Codes in the United States by state, and the consensus was against having list of zip code articles.  Looks to me like a losing fight at the moment.


 * Anything else you are interested in? We do have the WikiProject Virginia/Article requests - though it looks like it's mostly newspapers and schools at the moment.-- Kubigula (talk) 00:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, certainly! I'm still in there. :) Thanks for the explanation--it was just so confusing to fulfill a request, then when challenged, fulfill the challenge's request...and then have the page deleted anyway, and so very quickly. I'll be hitting the article requests page this weekend. :) Thanks for the help, and for your encourangement and support. Not having a why has always confuzzled me. --Carla Hufstedler 21:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Revamping the collaborations page
Since our collaborations page has been pretty much inactive for a year, I thought that we could change it and replace it with an idea that User:Krm500 came up with for WikiProject Ice Hockey. It uses this format and I think that it will help revitalize this project and get more articles to at least GA status. <font face="Verdana" >T Rex  | <font face="Tahoma">talk  19:27, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Neat concept - it's a better structured version of what I was trying to do with Virginia above. Our collaborations page is so inactive that it can't hurt to try something new.  My only concern is that discussion on improving an article should ideally take place on the article talk page - where editors outside the project are able to participate (and perhaps become participants in our project).  However, this is an issue with any collaborations page.  Perhaps this could be addressed by transcluding or linking to the collaboration discussion on the article talk page.-- Kubigula (talk) 04:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Created, I'll alert all of our active members. <font face="Verdana" >T Rex  | <font face="Tahoma">talk  19:12, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it is a good idea too. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:19, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I like it. <font color="#3333CC">~ <font size="1" color="red">(The Rebel At) ~ 19:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject District of Columbia
I just revived WikiProject District of Columbia and was wondering if anyone who was interested wanted to join. <font face="Verdana" >T Rex  | <font face="Tahoma">talk  21:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

School importance ratings
I notice that several of us have been doing some of the "importance" ratings (i.e. top, high, mid and low) for Virginia articles. It's a subjective system and only provides a general and non-binding guide for the project's priorities. That being said, I've been thinking about a systematic way to rate the many school articles. It's a potential can of worms, but I'm generally thinking that the three iconic state schools - UVA, VA Tech and William & Mary should be rated top importance, the other colleges and universities should be high importance, the high schools should be mid, and anything below high school could be low. Any specific school with a particular history (either shorter or longer) could obviously be upgraded or downgraded as the case may be. Anyone have any thoughts or objections to this general ratings structure?-- Kubigula (talk) 03:45, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

GA Review
Virginia is a current GA nominee, but it is currently on hold by me, pending the insertion of more references. You may see the full assessment on the talk page. Thank you. &mdash; Rudget speak.work 16:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Appalachian Mountains
I noticed on the talk page that this article is under the scope of several Wikiprojects for states through which the mountains run, such as Kentucky and North Carolina. Should Appalachian Mountains be included in Wikiproject Virginia? I think so. <font style="background:green" color="#00CC00"> Sage <font style="background:green" color="#00CC00"> ofwisdom