Talk:Army Black Knights football

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Michie Stadium Surface[edit]

The stadium surface is denoted as "Astroturf" on the page. I'm thinking maybe this is somewhat inaccurate, implying the old-school rock-hard stuff(?). The new surface is the one with the rubber bits ground in. I think it's now "Astroplay", and that is what is denoted on the Michie Stadium page (not my edit). However I am not sure exactly what it is called. Can anybody help...?

Fair use rationale for Image:ArmyBlackKnights.png[edit]

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Where's the Article?[edit]

Um, shouldn't there be an article in here and not just statistics? 204.52.215.107 02:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree... the article currently mostly consists of a table of Army-Navy game results which duplicates a table on the Army-Navy Game page. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 14:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uniform[edit]

I am suprised there isn't any information about the uniform debuted at last years Army-Navy Game. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 15:28, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Team Name[edit]

When did the Army football team adopt the name "Black Knights"? As far back as I can remember they were merely Cadets, as Navy's football team is Midshipmen. A datum worth including...? McGehee (talk) 20:30, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It seems they changed their name to Black Knights in 1999. http://www.goarmysports.com/sports/athletics/spec-rel/040615aaa.html. Wikidude10000 (talk) 06:29, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Army athletics officially changed it's name to the Army West Point Black Knights. See: http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/army-west-points-sharp-minimalist-rebrand-with-new-name-and-logo/ How does one change the title of the page to the team's official name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3665047379a (talk • contribs) 03:13, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion of common name of athletic teams of the United States Military Academy[edit]

The common name of the athletics teams of the United States Military Academy is now the Army West Point Black Knights. See: http://www.ncaa.com/amp/news/ncaa/article/2015-04-14/army-west-point-unveils-new-brand-identity-logo-athletic-teams

http://patriotleague.org/standings.aspx?path=mbball

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/page/ARMY/army-west-point-black-knights/

Requested move 28 September 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Not Moved  — Amakuru (talk) 11:43, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Army Black Knights football → Army West Point Black Knights football – The common name of the athletics teams of the United States Military Academy is now the Army West Point Black Knights. See: http://www.ncaa.com/amp/news/ncaa/article/2015-04-14/army-west-point-unveils-new-brand-identity-logo-athletic-teams

http://patriotleague.org/standings.aspx?path=mbball

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/page/ARMY/army-west-point-black-knights/ 3665047379b (talk) 03:45, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose (as of right now) – NBC Sports and Yahoo! Sports use "West Point", CBS Sports is inconsistent by using "West Point" in the title page but excludes "West Point" in its news stories, as well as NCAA.com. ESPN still excludes WP, as well as SBNation.com and Sports-Reference.com. I'm still not convinced that the page should be moved to include West Point. Corky Buzz by the Hornet's Nest 18:00, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose (likewise, for now). Per Corky above. But it's working its way in. Several of the team's 2017 opponents have games scheduled against "Army", e.g., Fordham, Tulane, UTEP, Temple; but others have gone to "Army West Point". Let's revisit later this year, or early in the next season. JohnInDC (talk) 18:37, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • It is telling I suppose that the first I'd ever heard of this new "common" name was via this Move request - and now I see that the discussion is at least 2 years old as we wait (and wait) for the rebranding to take hold. Things are changing a bit more slowly than I'd supposed and so I'm a bit firmer now in my Oppose. (Thanks BTW for the link below to the prior discussion.) JohnInDC (talk) 10:42, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose move. The common name is Army, and is likely to be Army for the forseeable future. Nothing's changed since the last RM.  ONR  (talk)  23:27, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose move per prior previous consensus and WP:COMMONNAME. This is such an iconic program with so much history behind it, that it's highly unlikely that this is ever going to change in popular consciousnesses. Army is Army. Imagine that! LOL Ejgreen77 (talk) 01:42, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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