Talk:Baby bonds

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Did you know... that economists William Darity and Darrick Hamilton proposed the policy of baby bonds in 2010 as a mechanism to reduce the racial wealth gap in the United States?

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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 August 2020 and 4 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jkolli. Peer reviewers: MichelleGachelin.

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Outline of Proposed Edits[edit]

There is significant room for improvement considering the amount of scholarly work and news coverage on this proposal, as well as the fact that it has been introduced as legislation in the form of the American Opportunity Accounts Act (AOAA). I plan to expand on the specifics of the program as proposed by Darity and Hamilton, as well as the version in the AOAA. The article also does not mention, but rather links to, the child trust fund (CTF) article, which discusses a somewhat similar program in the UK. There is room for the baby bonds article to be further integrated with Wikipedia’s other existing articles, and as a mechanism of reparations. Jkolli (talk) 03:39, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would love it if you did all of the above! Keepcalmandchill (talk) 06:31, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal for Restructuring[edit]

My planned changes are to rewrite the lead and restructure the contents as follows:

1. Background

1.1 Racial Wealth Gap (link to Wealth inequality in US and Racial Equality in US)

1.1.1 Explanations (this would include conventional explanations and Darity & Hamilton’s findings)

1.2 Reparations (link to Reparations)

2. Proposed Plans

2.1 Darity and Hamilton Proposal

2.2 American Opportunity Accounts Act

3. Implications

4. See also

There's a more detailed outline with references on my user page -- I welcome any feedback.

Jkolli (talk) 02:29, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good! Keepcalmandchill (talk) 06:14, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:37, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that a 2019 analysis by Naomi Zewde projects that baby bonds would reduce the racial wealth gap at the median from a factor of 16 to a factor of 1.4?~~ Source: Naomi Zewde (2019). Universal Baby Bonds Reduce Black-White Wealth Inequality, Progressively Raise Net Worth of All Young Adults. https://doi.org/10.1177/0034644619885321

5x expanded by Jkolli (talk). Self-nominated at 23:26, 12 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits.
The hook, however, is quite technical for our general readership. We also don't print names on the main page that are not linked to a Wikipedia article. Can you think of an easier to understand hook angle? The part about estimating reparations from slavery is quite interesting. Yoninah (talk) 21:54, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your review! I appreciate the feedback -- here are some alternate hooks that may be better.

ALT1: ... that Morningstar estimated Senator Cory Booker's baby bonds proposal would cut the racial wealth gap in half? Source: Aron Szapiro, 2020 https://www.morningstar.com/articles/1003066/can-baby-bonds-shrink-the-racial-wealth-gap
ALT2: ... that economists William Darity and Darrick Hamilton proposed the policy of baby bonds in 2010 as a mechanism to reduce the racial wealth gap? Source: Hamilton, Darrick; William Darity, Jr (2010-01-01). "Can 'Baby Bonds' Eliminate the Racial Wealth Gap in Putative Post-Racial America?"

Jkolli (talk) 04:57, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, those are good alts. Please add a cite to the first paragraph under "American Opportunity Accounts Act" per Rule D2, and we can finish this up. Yoninah (talk) 17:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I added a citation to that paragraph. Thank you so much for all your help! Jkolli (talk) 17:49, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I fixed the links in the hooks. Both ALT1 and ALT2 are verified and cited inline; I have a slight preference for ALT2. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:56, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Kerrey proposal[edit]

There was a similar proposal to the baby bonds idea called KidSave, written by Senator Bob Kerrey. See [[1]] for more information. Perhaps we could add some of the material from this and other articles (google “KidSave Bob Kerrey” to start) in order to expand the article. Jarrod Baniqued (talk) 07:37, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]