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Did You Know
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that while Bubsy 3D is often labeled as one of the worst video games of all time, it had a positive to mixed reception around its initial release?
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External Links[edit]

Pretty sure that external link is just some guy attempting to draw traffic to his blog. There's no information there which adds to the article, nor is it a reputable source for any of the article's information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.4.175 (talk) 02:41, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PSExtreme[edit]

Removing the part about PSExtreme not being known to have existed. It was entirely real http://community.retromags.com/gallery/category/61-psextreme/#.U5Oj5GdOU-U — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.227.231.112 (talk) 23:46, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any news of an official Bubsy 3D remake?[edit]

Dear Wikipedia users.

As I have observed on the Internet, I've noticed that video game fans are embarrassed and upset with the way Bubsy 3D was made. Is Michael Berlyn going have Bubsy 3D make a comeback? I wish there would be Bubsy 3D remake because I feel like that it could be remade better with better graphics and better controls, I hope there will be a Bubsy 3D remake so that Michael Berlyn can have his honor back. Let me know what you think because Bubsy 3D deserves better. I did like the music to that game though. But I didn't like the slow clunky gameplay. CrosswalkX (talk) 02:27, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That would be interesting. Unfortunately there's no word on that. 98.119.155.81 (talk) 12:45, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently there's a chance that new games will emerge. 173.55.37.52 (talk) 14:44, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In two weeks 2605:E000:2E54:8F0:456E:EB7F:FF70:F320 (talk) 03:50, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

plot section?[edit]

Could someone plz add a plot section to this? Visokor (talk) 20:29, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Reception[edit]

After looking at a list of critic reviews in sites like Moby Games and Game Rankings, it appears reception to this game during the first two years range from mixed to positive. The negative ones started coming out in later years. 172.250.44.165 (talk) 14:56, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sega 32X[edit]

What source said the developers were planning to release the game on the 32X? 172.250.44.165 (talk) 21:59, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Next Generation Source[edit]

According to the page to an archived Next Generation magazine linked to this article, the PS1 limitations are why the developers used flat shaded polygons. It says "The game designers, aware of current console limitations, have opted to develop the game using flat shaded polygons instead of textured polygons, which puts less of a demand on the hardware's geometry engines, and inevitably decreases draw in." 172.250.44.165 (talk) 19:09, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You seemingly stopped reading at "aware of current console limitations" and jumped to a conclusion which is obviously at odds with numerous games which had been released before Bubsy 3D. The second half of the sentence plainly attests that using flat-shaded polygons was not a necessity, but a deliberate compromise to reduce draw in.--Martin IIIa (talk) 03:18, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
...and I should add, even that much is purely speculation on Next Generation's part. Nowhere in that preview does it say that the magazine staff had spoken to anyone involved with Bubsy 3D's development. They simply made the observation that the game uses flat-shaded polygons and decided to assume the best possible explanation.--Martin IIIa (talk) 04:02, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gold X Award[edit]

I think the "Gold X Award" qualifies as an award. In the Olympics, there are three medals: gold, silver, and bronze. If you win either of those medals, then they add to your accomplishments. What PSExtreme gave to PS1 games at the time was no different. 172.250.44.165 (talk) 21:29, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I get where you're coming from to an extent, but I don't think that the Gold X award is notable enough to be mentioned in a table in the article- something like an Olympic medal or an Academy Award is different because they're both well-known accolades (heh... no pun intended) that have been awarded to several people. The Gold X award is a title from a short-lived and somewhat obscure magazine that probably hasn't been awarded to a whole lot of games. It's notable in the context of Bubsy 3D as it's mentioned on the cover art, and thus deserves to be mentioned in the reception section, but the award itself doesn't need to be placed in a table since it isn't mentioned frequently in other articles and isn't notable enough to be listed as a won award. Moreover, it's the only real accolade that the game has won, so to have it be the only item in a table feels somewhat necessary. TheDisneyGamer (talk) 03:08, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
PS Extreme may be an obscure and short-lived magazine but it's still a professional publication. As to why it's obscure and short-lived, the people behind the magazine probably to don't have enough funds to maintain, much less expand to greater markets. But that doesn't mean the things they say are any lesser than those of other publications. Hirameki (talk) 00:18, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Initial reviews[edit]

According to the first paragraph of the reception section:"Bubsy 3D received a wide range of reviews upon release, but the majority were negative." I'm not sure if this is accurate. Here are the magazines and websites associated with the initial reviews.

POSITIVE: PS Extreme, Gamezilla, GameFan, Absolute Playstation, NowGamer

MIXED: GamePro, Game Players

NEGATIVE: E.G.M., Next Generation, GameSpot — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:2E54:8F0:ECA7:9467:C455:527C (talk) 02:15, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Gamezilla review should qualify as outright positive, judging by the score. 107.77.229.20 (talk) 17:22, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tribute[edit]

When you pay tribute to someone or something, you usually do something similar to the original work but nicely as possible. But in the case of what was at the Los Angeles museum, it's the opposite as Bubsy and derivative game looked mangled. This makes the way the source used the word "tribute" sound sarcastic. It should be known that the Polygon website has a bit of anti-Bubsy sentiment. Wubzy (talk) 18:07, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

His Greatest Failure?[edit]

I've noticed that in the reception area, it states that Michael Berlyn finds Bubsy 3D to be his "greatest failure." However, in the article, he said "Bubsy 3", which could be a reference to the third Bubsy game on the Atari Jaguar, just shortened to Bubsy 3. Bubsy 3D is the fourth game in the series. Not to mention that it would be a bit strange to call Bubsy 3 "not a very good game", but said that Bubsy 3D "did pretty good" (said it "didn't to great", but that "it was pretty good") in the same interview? It appears to be a case of misreading labels. SoulSnow (talk) 20:47, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to makes some changes in the page. 2605:E000:2E52:FA00:D12F:C474:F1BF:FAC4 (talk) 13:37, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

more info on the development?[edit]

hey everyone, i found this video which has some pieces of info from the game's designer, richard ham. there's some interesting stuff in here, maybe we could add some of it to the "Development and release" section of the article? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arVADOfs1cY

Dvdmovies123 (talk) 17:37, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]