Talk:Crooked Billet

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This article was nominated for deletion on 30 December 2018. The result of the discussion was keep.

A fact from Crooked Billet appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 January 2019 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Crooked Billet was the site of the first house in London that had a telephone, as well as electricity for illumination, boiling a kettle, and ironing?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2019/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Crooked Billet.

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Question[edit]

Isn't a crooked billet an agricultural implement?

Crooked Billet[edit]

Crooked Billet is a common pub name. It refers to a bent stick that has fallen from a tree.

There are several pubs named such, Merton, Penge, Walthamstow, Hook in Hampshire etc. --BeckenhamBear (talk) 14:24, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite needed[edit]

If this is the name of an area of Merton then it's unofficial one, compare "The Battles" or "The Poets" in Wimbledon. There is not a single reference in the article. It's a good candidate for deletion unless fixed. There is an existing article that cover it Pub names. I do think there is scope for an article here about the Generic name, here with links to Shepherding and possibly Cricket, but it will involve significant research... --BeckenhamBear (talk) 14:58, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

Here's a site that, while it may not be suitable as a source, includes a list of sources that surely are. TwoTwoHello (talk) 15:18, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Matthews, Tony (2009). "Crooked Billet". London Gardens On Line. London Parks and Gardens Trust. Retrieved 7 January 2019. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:24, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Attribution[edit]

Text and references copied from Crooked Billet to Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick and Earl of Warwick. See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Text and references copied from Crooked Billet to Flag of Warwickshire. See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Text and references copied from Crooked Billet to Crooked Billet, Wimbledon, See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:32, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Text and references copies from Crooked Billet, Wimbledon to Crooked Billet. See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:53, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Text and reference copied from Crooked Billet to Southside House. See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:12, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reference copied from Henry Peek to Crooked Billet. See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:50, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Atkins[edit]

At Revision 2019-01-07T15:58:05 by 7&6=thirteen, the sentence "Richard Atkins cultivated a field near the Ridgeway.[1]" got added.

There is no mention of Richard Atkins in the reference. I thought the Ridgeway went from East Anglia to the west country. Nowhere near CB. Should this sentence be deleted? -- SGBailey (talk) 11:40, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Evidently you missed it in Matthews, Tony (6 January 2009). "Crooked Billet". London Gardens On Line. London Parks and Gardens Trust.. It is in the source. I won't try to account for your mental process, but it is expressly there. "A survey in 1617 mentions Shepherd's Hatch Gate here, one of several gates for grazing livestock, and also the site of a cottage, shed and 'backside' occupied by Richard Atkins who farmed a field off the Ridgeway." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:47, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the Richard Atkins mentioned here is Richard Atkins, the time and place don't match. The Ridgeway will refer to the local Ridgway that runs close to Crooked Billet, not the The Ridgeway which is many miles away. So what the source is saying is that a local farmer lived in one of the cottages. The source also mentions that Daniel Watney, founder of the brewing family, lived in one of the cottages which seems much more notable. TwoTwoHello (talk) 22:40, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Possible that the wikilink is to the wrong Richard Atkins. Suggest you fix both. 7&6=thirteen (☎)