Talk:Guitar Hero Live

Removed Background Section

I removed the section on the franchises background: it was initially titled "Background: Guitar Hero 7", the problem with that is it implies that this game was in some way more closely resemble GH7 than the product actually does. If someone wants a history of the Guitar Hero series they can check on the Guitar Hero links. I just think it was kinda pointless to have a whole section under the development heading devoted to the popularity of the older games. --Deathawk (talk) 07:13, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

It's not so much GH7 is this game, but to understand why this game is being considered a reboot rebuilt from ground up, and where the series had been for the last 5 years, which is important. --MASEM (t) 13:16, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Song lists

We should be staying consistent with sources like [1] which are tracking all the officially announced songs. There are some that definitely have been shown as part of demos or the like but we shouldn't this to be true (eg "Welcome to the Jungle" was one of the first songs demoed for Rock Band but that never happened). --MASEM (t) 13:17, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

The ESRB (an American rating board) [posted lyrics] to the songs that had objectional content. A quick search for these lyrics revealed these songs to be "The Rock Show" by blink-182 ["getting drunk with my best friends"], "Victory over the Sun" by Biffy Clyro ["smoke crack for me", "drinking black brandy"], and "Berzerk" by Eminem ["done did enough codeine"]. But so far, only the blink-182 song is officially confirmed. Mewtwowimmer (talk) 01:47, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Soundtrack list

First, we should have enough between existing sources and reception to break out a soundtrack article. But on that:

• I have not played enough of the main career mode to know how to best sort them (if for example there are any tiers or the like like original GH had.) So that's something to figure out.
• On GHTV songs, I'm not yet sure if we can track them. In contrast to past GH songs (and RB too), the DLC was regularly announced and tracked by third-party sources, and there's not yet evidence they will do this for GHTV when new songs are added (because this can all be done quietly on Activision's side, they may not really discuss specific additions). So while songs can be determined by going into the ingame list, this is very much primary sourcing without any third-party sources and thus might not be appropriate (it's catalog material without secondary coverge at this point). I would recommend a wait-and-see approach, keeping what we have as GHTV songs there, but being aware that we might ditch that altogether. --MASEM (t) 16:44, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay, now that I've seen two weeks in a row where songs have been announced ([2]) and noted by a third-party site, I would definitely suggest that a sountrack page can be made separating on-disc (which we can group into the various sets/shows), and the GHTV songs, with the GHTV songs including the date of introduction to the service based on these press releases. --MASEM (t) 22:14, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Guitar Hero Live/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: AdrianGamer (talk · contribs) 13:02, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

• and forgoes the traditional use of downloadable content that previous Guitar Hero games had used - "that previous Guitar Hero games had used" sounds redundant and unnecessary
  •  Done
• The lead is a bit too short when compared to the article's length. More development information would be great.
  •  Done I've tried to add a few more sentences.
• The main Live portion of the game received mixed reviews - Does it refer to "GH Live" instead?
  •  Done Addressed to identify it as career mode
• There is no source to support information from Notes may be held and sustained, to and the speed at which the on-screen display scrolls.
  •  Done
• The first and second paragraphs of the Career mode section are also unsourced.
  •  Done (note, renamed to "GH Live")
• and later jeer and boo at the performer. - a bit informal
  •  Done
• The player can either work to play more of the notes correctly over the course of the song to win back the crowd - "work to play more of the notes correctly" was awkwardly written
  •  Done
• The career mode is broken up into a dozen-some show sets, each set consisting of about 3-5 songs, and includes full-motion video for the band's introduction and banter and the crowd's cheering and ovation before, between and after the songs, completing a full on-stage experience. - Break this sentence into multiple parts. Here's something optional: You have mentioned the full-motion part already so you should probably either trim the sentence or move them to the first paragraph talking about the full-motion video.
  •  Done
• Avoid short paragraphs like the third paragraph of the career section. Try to merge this part to somewhere else.
  •  Done
• There are no present plans to include other instruments such as bass guitar or drums in the title, with Jackson stating that the game is "all about guitars" - This would be something for the development section.
  •  Done
• he player can pick up and play on any song that is being shown, but they also are able to use "Play tokens" to replay a specific song outside of the channel's rotation. - Can't find "play tokens" in the source.
  •  Done It is the same as Plays you point out below, but see comment
• Most information in the first paragraph of the GHTV section belongs to the development section.
  •  Done I've moved a small amount of info around between gameplay, dev, and soundtrack on GHTV, splitting out a new para on GHTV in the dev section
• Who is Jackson? You should mention who he is in the gameplay section.
  •  Done
• "Hero Power" in a similar fashion as the main game, which replaces the concept of "Star Power" from the earlier Guitar Hero games - Star Power should be mentioned when Hero Power was mentioned in the career section
  •  Done
• According to the Kotaku review, Plays is the name of the in-game currency. You should put it somewhere in the article.
  •  Done Actually, the system is more complex than that, but the Kotaku source does it the major points. There's coins (easy to earn), Hero Cash (which comes only from microtransactions) and Plays (which can be bought with coins or Hero Cash).
• A bit unnecessary to list the sales of all the old Guitar Hero games. Can it be summarized to something like "Sales of the previous Guitar Hero games, including Warriors of Rock and DJ Hero 2, were below estimates."
  •  Done trimmed down though kept sourcing.
• Is mentioning rumors really appropriate? (the part about the aborted reboot)
  • I think it is important to understand the logic Activision used here, following poor sales of Warriors of Rock and then trying to keep the same formula in the cancelled game.
• Harmonix announced Rock Band 4 On March 5, 2015 - "on"
  •  Done
• Is that really necessary to mention the release date for Rock Band 4 in a Guitar Hero article?
  • As it is a competiting series and released nearly at the same, and it doesn't appear that one was following the footsteps in the other, it does come into play in the other sources that compare GH to RB after their release.
• though remained an Activision studio and successful due to their work for the Wii U Sing Party. Is Sing Party even a successful title?
  •  Done More that they stayed out of the red, replaced with "financially viable"
• Activision giving the team freedom to develop the game without relying on the previous titles in the series. - "gave"
  •  Done
• GameRankings doesn't add any actual value to the article. You should remove it per the new standard.
  •  Done
• Optional: The reception section is a bit under-developed. More reviews can be used.
  •  Done major expansion...
• Since 2 reviews were actually used, Template:video game reviews should only has 2 reviews (GameSpot and Polygon)
  •  Done per above, all table sources used
• Paraphrasing quotes would always be welcomed.
  •  Done per previous 2 above, less reliance on quotes but still sprinkled with enough
• Any accolades/nominations?
  •  Done I found a couple of merit (NME + DICE) but it didn't get much
• Source 22, 24, 39 is a bare url. Are they even reliable sources?
  •  Done One replaced, the other two (22 + 24) are both reliable as music news sources. Formatted references.
• Citation format is inconsistent (GameSpot and Gamespot, missing authors, inconsistent dates)
  •  Done normalized dates, make sure consistent on web vs publication, linked where appropriate, and added authorship where possible
• Source 12 is unreliable. It was submitted by a contributor.
  •  Done replaced

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   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

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Overall it is a well-written article, supported by lots of reliable sources. The reception section can definitely be expanded. When all the minor problems raised above are addressed the article should be good to go. AdrianGamer (talk) 10:12, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

• I have tagged issues I have dealt with but the others will take me a bit more digging (not impossible, just more in depth work). --MASEM (t) 19:26, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Now primarily left with expansion on the reception section. --MASEM (t) 18:16, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
    • @AdrianGamer: With expansion of the reception, that should tackle everything. --MASEM (t) 20:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
      • Wow, that is impressive! Good to know that someone actually reads the optional changes proposed, and I appreciated that. Guitar Hero Live is now a . Congratulations! AdrianGamer (talk) 08:34, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
        • Yeah, the reception section was weaker than I though, and really needed to be larger for GA. That was less "optional" in my mind. --MASEM (t) 00:23, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

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GHTV Reloaded

For those who don't know, GHTV Reloaded is a fan-made project that not only brings back GHTV, but also includes never-before-released songs. Should we add it? MrWii000 (talk) 02:44, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

We need coverage that is beyond the fan project's own information, which I've not seen yet. Masem (t) 02:49, 5 December 2022 (UTC)