Talk:Hyolyn

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Name Romanization?[edit]

I've always seen her name romanized as HyoLyn like on the covers for "Shady Girl", "Push Push", "How Dare You", and "Ma Boy". Shouldn't the wiki article match? RatiziAngeloucontribs 11:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

really because i've always seen it romanized as Hyorin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kstar101 (talk • contribs) 06:31, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

also to the person that keeps changing the links and editing the names in the links from "Hyorin" to "Hyolyn" you're making it where the link doesn't work and the articles coming up as "not found" so PLEASE stop doing this in fact this should be proof that the name is spelled Hyorin and not Hyolyn with the exception of the album covers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kstar101 (talk • contribs) 06:44, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also who was the genius that moved the article? I'm starting to think that this person is either trolling and is secretly an anti fan or is a new fan and hasn't been following Sistar very long because the page has been Hyorin since how long? Since it was created and then over night someone magically decides to move the page? Like i said either they're a troll or they just honestly don't know any better i.e. a new fan that thinks they've known this group since day one which obviously they haven't......either way unless they're adding new info to the wiki page could this person just leave stuff alone? Kstar101 (talk) 07:53, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate what you're doing, fixing the page and the links. I will say though that Wikipedia's procedures for Reliable sources would require more than "always seen it this way" as a justification. The fact that many blogs do use this romanization does not make them reliable. If the official albums and covers do use Hyolyn, that is then what the company obviously prefers and should be the official romanization then. You should, however, make sure Hyorin redirects and perhaps add a text "sometimes romanized as Hyorin" Evaders99 (talk) 01:58, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well if in interviews it's spelled as Hyorin and not Hyolyn and not with American interviews Korean interviews where they type out the members names (also shows where they've made appearences) then i would think that that's how the name was spelled, I've been following them since debut and even on the member profiles it's spelled Hyorin and not Hyolyn. Hyolyn in fact could be the equivalent of SoL (who also goes by Taeyang but his real name is Youngbae in fact he is the PERFECT example for stage names vs. what people refer to you as even Seungri would be a good example because his real name is Seunghyun), D-Lite, and V.I. stage names but not what their wiki articles are titled. Even DBSK's wiki pages aren't titled as U-Know Yunho, Micky Yoochun, Hero Jaejoong, Max Changmin, and Xiah Junsu but it is noted that those are their alternate names. And i think Hyolyn should be noted as the alternate spelling and not the official spelling and you can ask ALOT of Hyorin fans 90% will agree it's spelled Hyorin Kstar101 (talk) 03:02, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's not about what fans agree. It's what can be cited. I've never seen an official profile on their website that lists a romanization, I've tried to find one. If you have a more official source, preferably from a Korean media outlet, that uses that romanization, you should provide it. Evaders99 (talk) 03:07, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is their official fan daum account a source? I mean it is the official Korean fan account and there it's spelled Hyorin. Kstar101 (talk) 03:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
and from what i can see a lot of the daum accounts use Allkpop for english article sources. so is that not a reliable source? Kstar101 (talk) 03:18, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Generally blogs are not a reliable source, though Allkpop has gained some respectability and usage of their articles. There are many editors that will not accept Allkpop sources though. I don't believe fan groups are a reliable source. I know Korean companies generally have "official" connections related to their fan groups, but whether it's explicitly run by their company, I don't know. It's easily shown that Starship uses Hyolyn (or stylized HyoLyn) on their album cover. I think we should probably wait for consensus before doing another name change here. Evaders99 (talk) 03:30, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think my initial problem is that the article has been listed as "Hyorin" for a very long time i think the original in fact was titled "Hyorin" and not "Hyolyn" and yes it does have "HyoLyn" on the album covers but even when you search HyoLyn the result are about 332,000 wereas Hyorin is 2,940,000. And i wish i could find the variety show clips (they were probably removed for copyright by SBS again) where it's clearly even romanized as Hyorin and not HyoLyn wahhhh so frustrating Kstar101 (talk) 03:36, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know, frustrating. If only they listed it on their official website profile - it would not be an issue then. I will say their official Facebook uses Hyolyn, as does their official Youtube channel.

http://www.facebook.com/officialstarship - posts Jan 20 and Jan 18 Check out the full MV for "I choose to love you" sung by HyoLyn!

Sistar :: Hyolyn, Sistar's lead vocalist, released a new single called "I choose to love you" on 19th Jan

and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdmfQfkaWQM&feature=youtu.be Sung by HyoLyn Evaders99 (talk) 03:54, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They really do need to make a statement or something haha, i just hope that if someone does edit the article they don't magically make the links invalid again. Whoever is editing it is highlighting "Hyorin" and changing it not realizing that the articles will be effected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kstar101 (talk • contribs) 04:00, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry that I rendered the articles' links invalid but this isn't a fandom thing. I just couldn't agree with the fact that the name was spelled incorrectly on her Wiki. Just look at the sign she her self is holding in the music video for "Push Push" or even her seat in the music video for "So Cool" and even on the back of their pink robes throughout has all members names on them. It seems silly to argue her name should be spelled any other way. It's Hyolyn. Maybe HyoLyn. But definitely not Hyorin. RatiziAngeloucontribs 22:05, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox Korean name[edit]

@DragonFury: Please note that the above discussion does not apply to Template:Infobox Korean name. The infobox has fields for Revised Romanization of Korean and McCune-Reischauer, which have transcription rules. 효린 is Hyorin in both romanization systems, so changing it to Hyolyn is factually incorrect. Random86 (talk) 23:08, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ratizi, Kstar101, Evaders99, and Random86: First off, I don’t read, write, or speak Korean. However, an image search of the native name given in the infobox (김효정) refers to someone other than Hyolyn ex of Sistar. On the other hand a search of the native name given by Random86 above (효린) clearly does refer to the article subject. Are there any objections to making the change accordingly? Captainllama (talk) 15:58, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Captainllama: What change are you talking about? I'm confused. Random86 (talk) 23:18, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also confused about what change is required. Hyolyn is clearly the stage name - is the Native name meant to be the birth name or something else? Because in Korean its a common enough name to assume she'd use a different stage name like many other Korean artists. Evaders99 (talk) 04:07, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I wasn't clear, I'm referring to the "Native name" given directly beneath the photograph and caption, which seems overly prominent for a name she does not use. On reflection maybe there is a policy that "Native name" necessarily equates to birth name? If not, I suggest using the Hangul rendering of Hyolyn there instead, which she does use. It's worth mentioning that all versions are given just a little lower on the page so nothing would be lost. Captainllama (talk) 00:11, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense, if there is no such policy that "Native name" is birth name, then feel free to correct it to the more common searched name Evaders99 (talk) 21:08, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Done! Captainllama (talk) 12:39, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Bring back Hyolyn's music show wins to the Awards and Nominations section[edit]

Music show wins are considered awards because they mainly came from what we do call physical and digital sales. Isn't it that also major awards shows like MNET Asian Music Awards & Gaon Music Awards rely on physical and digital sales to evaluate the winners? I think it is not necessary to remove this awards from Hyolyn's page where in fact unlike others, their awards was retained from their page. Please look into this and let me make the necessary edits. Yassergarcias (talk) 02:03, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Users involved in this section might be interested in joining the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Korea/Popular_culture#Are_music_show_wins_notable?. Redalert2fan (talk) 11:00, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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