Talk:Ivory Coast/Archive 8

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Sentence partially supported by the cited source

The following sentence is only partially supported by the cited source: In the 21st century, the Ivorian economy still relies heavily on agriculture, with smallholder cash-crop production predominating.

The source says Cote d'Ivoire is heavily dependent on agriculture and related activities, which engage roughly two-thirds of the population. The source does not use the phrase "cash crops", but it talks about cocoa beans... coffee and palm oil, which are cash crops, so the phrase is supported.

I do not see how the source supports "smallholder" in smallholder cash-crop production predominating.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:01, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Move to Côte d'Ivoire

Not for nothing but did any of the above editors in the above votes actually look at the relevant data?

Per Google Ngram, Côte d'Ivoire is the WP:COMMON WP:ENGLISH name of the place now and has been for several years. — LlywelynII 23:59, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

The reasoning given by many of the above commenters seemed to be to oppose the move on principle simply because of the government decree, with the assumption that "Ivory Coast" must of course be the most common name. It's arrogant, not supported by the evidence, and exactly the kind of rubbish that we used to see at articles on Chinese topics with Pinyin. It's pretty disheartening to see. Theknightwho (talk) 17:39, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

I suspect the best course of action is not call for a new request to change until July/August, but, in the meantime improve notes e and f and prepare your arguments. Emphasize what weighty news sources like The Economist or academic style guides recommend using it (but find good references). I note the relatively recent move of Kiev → Kyiv might give some insights. --Erp (talk) 03:22, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Just throwing in my two cents having come here on the back of recommending that Turkey be moved to Türkiye - we should respect a country's right to determine their own name. Felixsv7 (talk) 09:16, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

That argument will be needed to be taken up at Wikipedia talk:Article titles, not here. CMD (talk) 09:27, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

We should honestly revive this if possible. AG202 (talk) 13:47, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Googling Côte d'Ivoire yields about 206,000,000 results, Googling Ivory Coast yields about 167,000,000 results. This might not be expert linguists research or anything, but this is another very simple indicator that Côte d'Ivoire is now the common name as well as the preferred name. 75.164.37.9 (talk) 05:37, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

It's certainly a helpful glistening sign as to which of the two is more popular, but regardless, an ebb back to Côte d'Ivoire will require a discussion vote (proposal? discourse? RFQ? debate? What do they call the voting discussion things here...), as the original flow towards the English name of "Ivory Coast" was the result of one of those. From what I can tell, "Côte d'Ivoire" is omnipresent in governmental websites and academic organizations, but much more droughted in mainstream media, where "Ivory Coast" has more of a presence. Do-Droppy (talk) 13:37, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

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maybe u could add the cultural things they do 79.68.148.4 (talk) 11:50, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Could you condense that question into something more specific? "Cultural" is a big umbrella term that can contain many different drops of ideas in it. Do you mean recreational things that formed in Turkiye, that later dribbled down into other countries? Do-Droppy (talk) 12:55, 22 November 2022 (UTC)