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Steel industry

I moved the paragraph on Krivorizhstal to its own section because it was a non-sequitur with discussions about the post-war era. Perhaps someone else could fill in more detail about the steel industry in Krivyi Rih, given that it is important to the town's history and industrial heritage/future. Lstanley1979 (talk) 18:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

the name used in the English language

Search on Google - pages from the United Kingdom only.

  • "Krivoy Rog" = 17,400
  • "Kryvyi Rih" = 11,500

--Toddy1 (talk) 21:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

My search of all English pages gives more for "Kryvyi Rih". Ostap 19:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Mine too:
  • "Krivoy Rog" = 12,000
  • "Kryvyi Rih" = 14,000 - again, this is just limiting to the UK webpages. Similar case for Canada. However, it seems as though, it is still important to keep the old russyphied version as it is also popular (even though not as popular).
--Andriy155 (talk) 07:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Lets use translation from from Ukrainian language, and it is KRYVYI RIH! --24.0.177.155 (talk) 15:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

This is English language Wikipedia, not Ukrainian language. And please do not leave racist abuse in your edit summaries like you did earlier today.--Toddy1 (talk) 15:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
After reading this section, I made a redirection page some days ago, pointing from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryvyi_Rog to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryvyi_Rih. (Verheyen Vincent (talk) 09:16, 3 December 2016 (UTC))

Better main pic?

How's this? Open to suggestions of course.. --ddima (talk) 18:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

The current picture of a beautiful park doesn't say much on the East. Europe's main steel industry city. We need vast urban skylines, poisoning chimneys:) and possibly skyscrapers. Happy edits, Ukrained (talk) 08:54, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I can make a collage photograph much like the one on the Rivne article. Looking thru the WikiCommons, the photos they have there aren't any much better! But i'll see how it comes out anyways. --ddima (talk) 17:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

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  • is a city in the Dnipropetrovsk region, and is the 8th most populous city in Ukraine with over 650,000 inhabitants in 2013. → is a city in the Dnipropetrovsk region of Ukraine; it is the 8th most populous city in the country with over 650,000 inhabitants in 2013.
  • 650,000 inhabitants in 2013.[3] → As long as this is sourced in a main section somewhere, it doesn't need to be cited here.
  • It lies within a large urban area, administratively, incorporated with Kryvyi Rih Municipality → I don't think this follows properly.
  • expand "at an astonishing rate" around → Quotations in the lead should have a citation.
  • the turn of the 1880s. → Usually use "the turn of" when talking about the turn of a century. I would change to "at the beginning of the 1880s"
  • transport ore to → transportation of ore?
  • Repetition of spurred
  • The lead needs re-structuring. A three line paragraph, then a six line paragraph, then a one line paragraph doesn't look good.
  • However, records pre-dating the existence of the city refer to the area by the same name, due to the shape of the landmass formed by the merging of the river Saksagan into the Inhulets. → Source?
  • Ingulets Palanka → This needs explaining, I don't know what this is.
  • 5[16] schools → Having a citation after the number makes it difficult to differentiate.
  • while others have reduced their workers and output by more than half. → Should this be past tense? (had to reduce)
  • Around this time, Kryvyi Rih's status was changed from township to city. It was founded by Uyezd as part of the Yekaterinoslav Governorate. It included 30 volosts. In late 1919, it was briefly ruled by the Volunteer Army.[19] → Not much point have a one line paragraph, so just tack this onto the end of the previous one.
  • The city grew rapidly, there are 160 industrial enterprises and 947 shops. → You're using two tenses in this sentence.
  • August 1944, Government, → August 1944, the Government,
  • government - executive, gendarmerie, police. → government, installing executives, gendarmerie and police forces.
  • Gendarmerie should be linked Gendarmerie
  • The answer came in the ethnic cleansing → Too informal
  • After the war, people lived among the ruins while housing stocks were rebuilt. The housing shortage was met by innovative technological solutions, which meant temporary barracks and houses could be built quickly. The two kinds of cheap new materials [clarification needed] were used later for years afterwards. → Claification tag needs sorting out.
  • Explain briefly what the Stakhanovite movement is.
  • The city itself is laid out with broad avenues lined by wide sidewalks. Tram lines run down the centre of the major streets. Beside the sidewalks there are usually several rows of trees such as lindens and horse chestnuts. Many people live in rows of 5 to 9 story apartment buildings that are wrapped around large inner courtyards. Many of these courtyards are also filled with trees giving the overall impression that the entire city is built in a park. → Sources?
  • Running my eyes over the references, and there are numerous problems. URLs showing, citations not formatted, missing dates, missing access dates, as these are Ukrainian sources for the most part being used on English Wikipedia, language parameters should be inputted into the citation coding.
Summary

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
Outcome

Looking through the history, I can see that you've spent a lot of time editing this article, and that you've been waiting since November for someone to review it. But, I'm afraid to say, this article is far from meeting GA criteria. There are issues with prose and sourcing, and the references need a lot of work. I strongly recommend that you list this for a Peer Review, and then ask the GOCE to go through it as well. I can't pass this article in its current condition.

Pass or Fail:  — Calvin999 08:14, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
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How long is the city

Whilst I realise that many websites claim that the city is over a hundred kilometres long, reference to a map shows that this isn't true.--Toddy1 (talk) 16:52, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to know where that claim comes from. According to my measurement (using google maps) the two furthest point inside the city area are 66 km apart.—caoimhinoc (talk) 11:28, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
"According to the official website of the city council, the length of the city as of 2019 is 126 km [4], however, the linear distance between the extreme southern and northern points on the city limits is almost twice less and is 66.1 km" - Google Translate translation from https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%A0%D1%96%D0%B3
" І є найдовшим містом Європи. Згідно з даними офіційного сайту міської ради, довжина міста станом на 2019 рік — 126 км, разом з цим лінійна відстань між крайніми південною та північною точками на межі міста є майже удвічі меншою і становить 66,1 км " Mferrer (talk) 22:09, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

The physical distance couldn't be measured just with the help of a satelite in mid-XX century. Many short roadways didn't exist. There is an option that it was measured bypassing around the city, which is the most common way of measuring such a crooked and weaved object. So you'd know, nowadays some different blog guys on Youtube tried passing the city on foot with a G-Maps, in the shortest possible ways, while counting the actual distance, it was a couple of times. And always they were getting the same number: a little under 89km…So it seems right that it is about 120km when you bypass it around. Personally I don't care about its length at all, especially considering the fact that 67km is still #1 lenghth in Europe ;) Just trying to figure it out right. AlbertHog (talk) 18:25, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@Mferrer: AlbertHog (talk) 18:29, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

An error, spotted before I got far into the article

Currently the article says

On May 8, 1775, ... Russian authorities opened a postal station and railway track,

This can't possibly be right. Perhaps what happened around 1775 was the opening of some road. I suppose many other statements in this article should be carefully examined for accuracy. Oaklandguy (talk) 04:36, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

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