Talk:Lakewood Township, New Jersey

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It's incredible that this article mentions demographics but fails to mention the significant Hasidic community in Lakewood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.105.90 (talk) 03:38, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


i think it's awfully strange that lakewood's demographics are practically the same as that of the united states. hmmmmmmm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmcastorsilva (talk • contribs) 07:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: History For a profound information please look at History of Lakewood. Greetings from Germany!!!--178.11.235.191 (talk) 13:58, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's incredible that this article makes no mention of the measles outbreak in Ocean County that's centered in Lakewood: https://www.state.nj.us/health/cd/documents/topics/measles/ocean_county_locations.pdf

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"Orthodox" vs Jewish[edit]

@Alansohn: In this edit, you substituted "Jewish" for "Orthodox". The cited source is very specific in referring to the proportion of Orthodox Jews in the town, rather than simply the proportion of Jews in the town (which can include non-Orthodox Jews, such as Reform Jews and Conservative Jews]]). A March 2020 NPR report, citing the NJ.com report, puts the number of Orthodox Jews as approaching 70%.

I'm not sure that we can affirmatively state the increase of Jews (of all denominations) by using the 2018 report either. The Berman Jewish DataBank source appears to discuss Jews of all sects, rather than just Orthodox Jews. As a result, I don't think the simple math exception to WP:NOR applies here. What is the rationale behind the contextualization that is currently in the article? — Mhawk10 (talk) 17:47, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Mhawk10, the issues you raise are legitimate. The Berman Jewish DataBank lists the number of Jews as of 2009, not the percentage, and lists them as Jews with no breakdown by Reform / Conservative / Orthodox. The 2018 article does refer specifically to Orthodox Jews as being 2/3 of the population, which could mean that there could be some percentage of Reform / Conservative Jews to be added in, but it doesn't provide a population for the Orthodox community. The 2020 NPR article does say 70%, which is in line with the 2/3 in the 2018 NJ.com article. Even if the 58,500 cited by the Berman study includes Jews of all varieties, the 2/3 (or 70%) would put the Orthodox community alone at 90,000. That growth from 58,500 (of all Jews) in 2009 to 90,000 (of Orthodox) in 2018/2020 is worthy of mention and the numbers were calculated based on percentages of the total population in the years in question and that's why I thought it important to include the Berman data from a decade before. Alansohn (talk) 18:27, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that it makes sense to include the Berman data, since it helps to state the sheer size of the expansion. I just take a slight issue with the calculation of an increase of at least 35,000 in the previous decade, since the Orthodox Jewish growth is (almost) certainly greater than "Orthodox Jews in 2018" - "All Jews in 2010". — Mhawk10 (talk) 19:37, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interactive map is wrong[edit]

The interactive map doesn't include the CDP of Lakewood, which is a part of the township. Minilammas (talk) 20:28, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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