Talk:Lamborghini Diablo

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Cleanup needed[edit]

Ditto, I'm working hard on this. P924 CarreraGTS (talk) 16:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have little interest in this subject, but this article is in need of spelling and punctuation help. Russell 18:32, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Added by someone else: I changed the description of the Millenium Roadsters. It said they were rear wheel drive, I have owned a VT all wheel drive Millenium Roadster. The carbon fiber spoiler was optional and is only present on a few, select Millenium roadsters.

It says the diablo was AWD. This isn't true is it? I know the later models were RWD and can't imagine the eralier ones as AWD. I don't want to edit it as I am not 100% sure (more into small cars than exotics), and I don't have an account - don't want my IP blocked —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.53.115 (talk • contribs) 6 December 2006

Posted by someone else from here on (I couldn't figure out how to make my own post, sorry!): Its actually generally the later Diablos that weren't RWD since Audi took over in 1996. Although the VT has always been AWD/4WD (I have no idea what the difference is if there is one!) and perhaps the only AWD/4WD Diablo (I'm not sure!) Audi began to produce more models of VT (i.e. the VT 6.0, VT 6.0 SE and the VT Millenium Roadster as well as the previously made VT and VT Roadster) because of their stupid beliefs about sensible 4WD being better than the more dangerous yet obviously more thrilling RWD mainly due to the danger factor!

Now all Lamborghinis made are AWD/4WD however and that's thanks to Audi who have Audified the entire Lamborghini model range in probably every way! Oh well, at least Lamborghini were able to produce the Diablo SE30 Jota before it all went wrong...

U.S. Market Variations[edit]

I think we might want to point out that Diablo models were somewhat different in the United States vs. Rest of World. Aside from the cosmetic differences, not all models (like the GT) reached American shores. As far as I know (and correct me if I'm wrong), the U.S. model list looked like this (years are MODEL YEARS):

  • 1991-1993: Diablo (RWD coupe only)
  • 1994: Diablo SE coupe, VT coupe
  • 1995: Diablo VT coupe only
  • 1996: Diablo VT coupe, VT Roadster
  • 1997: Diablo VT Roadster only
  • 1998: Diablo SV coupe, SV Monterey coupe, VT Roadster
  • 1999: Diablo VT Roadster (Mk 2), SV coupe (Mk 2), MOMO Roadster (12 built), Alpine VT coupe (12 built)
  • 2000: Diablo Millennium Roadster, 6.0 VT??
  • 2001: Diablo 6.0 VT only

Sound right? Sacxpert 15:42, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • If you can find some kind of reference to corroborate that list there's no reason why it shouldn't go into the article. User:Jaganath 18:18, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

I want to a car show todaay, and I added about four or five images I created of Diablo variants. Karrmann 18:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: Stop editing this page when you do not have any knowledge about this car. Stop posting poor quality photos and also stop posting wrong info on the cars!

Very poor[edit]

This page is of a very poor quality in my opinion. It needs definitely some clean up. There are really a lot of mistakes in it and it looks terrible. I will make some major changes in a couple of weeks when I have time. DiabloSE30

  • until someone have provided a better rear shot of the Diablo, I will continue of posting the picture. The picture gives the viewers of a picture of what the Diablo's rear looks like.. and please sign your name. Jpogi 14:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And you need to stop adding fair use images to this article. There are pleanty free use images of the Diablo readilly available, so a fair use image is unacceptiable. And the images are not poor, they adquitely show the details of the cars appearance. Keep in mind that on WIkipedia, images are only supposed to show a cars appearance, they are not supposed to make the car look good nor bad. Karrmann 14:14, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The pictures provides the readers of the different Diablos (and of different colors) that were released; whether the picture are of good quality or not. Jpogi 14:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The pictures are of adiquete quality. He must think that any image that doesn't glorify the car is "poor quality". Karrmann 14:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll go with karrmann in keeping the pictures.. I'm also thinking of putting back the gallery. I'll make sure that everytime that se30 opens this article, he'll/she'll find out that the pictures are still there. Jpogi 15:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright violation?[edit]

The current text on the Diablo GTR is word for word taken from http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/635/Lamborghini-Diablo-GTR.html and seems to come from a Lamborghini press kit. Is this a copyright violation, then, or can one assume that a text handed out to the press for the express purpose of publication falls under GDFL regulations? -- At least it´s bad style by the "author" to quote without giving the source. --328cia (talk) 21:01, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

100% agreed...sadly, MOST of this entire page was copy and pasted from various sources. Maybe not quite word for word, but using copy and paste and then altering a few words is still plagiarism by most accounts. I have rewritten pretty much the entire page in a "precis" format so I think that directly lifted info should no longer be an issue. CheersP924 CarreraGTS (talk) 15:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

rubbish infomation[edit]

The Diablo wasn't the first car to go over the 200mph barrier. The Ferrari F40 went 201mph which IS faster 200mph. The Diablo went 202.33mph according to the American car magazine 'Road and Track' which tested the original car. This page is rubbish and so is the information.

rubbish infomation[edit]

The Diablo wasn't the first car to go over the 200mph barrier. The Ferrari F40 went 201mph which IS faster 200mph. The Diablo went 202.33mph according to the American car magazine 'Road and Track' which tested the original car. This page is rubbish and so is the information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.123.184.64 (talk) 10:43, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merger Proposal (Closed)[edit]

Article merged: See old talk-page here

Page has been merged, cleanup is underway.P924 CarreraGTS (talk) 17:09, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have proposed to merge the article Lamborghini Diablo GT with this article.

The reasoning is simple: The "Diablo GT" is the only Diablo variant with its own page, and there is simply no need for that. It doesn't even have a photograph. This page should be an inclusive description of all Diablo variants of significance. P924 CarreraGTS (talk) 16:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Review[edit]

I believe I have completed my exhaustive re-working of this page. It was undeniably bad to begin with, containing a great deal of spurious information, fragments and poorly written sentences, and serious amounts of direct-lift plagiarism, which I consider to be a copyright violation. I added a lot of omitted information, tailored the page to a universal format, carefully converted units as appropriate, and added some informative tables. Proper citations have been done throughout the article. I realize, fully, that I used a GREAT deal of information from lambocars.com, which might seem like a single-source monopoly that could cause false information, but there are really not a lot of reputable web sources on this subject. I would have to hit the books in order to refine it any further, as the other sites I visited were just as poor as this article was to begin with.

I will be keeping a close eye on this page to monitor vandalism or more inaccurate additions. Finally, I think that this article may now be eligible for a better than B-class rating.

P924 CarreraGTS (talk) 18:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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1999-2001 Diablo a second generation or facelift?[edit]

Is the 1999-2001 Diablo using the same floorpan as the 1990-1998 Diablo? If yes, it's a facelift, but if no, it could be second generation. WKB(talk here/This is not Facebook nor Malaysia) 00:37, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fastest in the world claim.[edit]

I'm reading Road & Track magazine September 1991 issue, the "World's Fastests Cars" article, and the top speed for Diablo is explicitly stated at 202.2 MPH. Where does 207 MPH come from? 93.183.236.88 (talk) 21:30, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Diablo Coatl, to add or to remove?[edit]

There existed a heavily modified version called the Diablo Coatl, of which exterior quite differed from the original Diablo. I'm considering putting it on this page, but sadly, my work got deleted. So here I want to know your idea of whether to add the Coatl or not. ArcTempesta (talk) 14:57, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You can put it on the page. U1Quattro (talk) 18:00, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lamborghini Costanga[edit]

Here is the source that states the diablo was called the Costanga. An official Lamborghini dealer won't lie. [1]And here are other sources. I'm sure you will have a hard time proving this as a hoax.[2][3] U1 quattro TALK 04:29, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All of that is meaningless, it was published after the text was added to the page, if you think those writing for various publications don't copy from Wikipedia give this a read. Toasted Meter (talk) 04:52, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so. Why would an official Lamborghini dealership describe the Costanga if it never existed? Also the Mexican article isn't exactly a copy. U1 quattro TALK 05:18, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And if you actually give the sources stated in the article a read, you would know that the Costanga existed. U1 quattro TALK 05:21, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Because they had some intern write it. Trusting car dealers to actually know anything is a bad idea. Why if this was a real thing are there no mentions of it on the internet before it was added to this page? And I can't read them because one is a website that has no mentions of "Costanga" anywhere and the other would require me to read thousands of issues of a teen magazine in Spanish. Toasted Meter (talk) 05:28, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And how can you say that it was written by an intern? You're just assuming things. I think we have to email Lamborghini to see if this really existed.U1 quattro TALK 05:30, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I am guessing on that one, but the accuracy of car dealers blogs is not something I would put any confidence in. Go ahead and email Lamborghini, you might also want to try and find a Mexican distributor/dealer who was around at the time. Toasted Meter (talk) 05:46, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I won't waste my time in finding a Mexican dealer who was around that time as a confirmation from Lamborghini would be enough. U1 quattro TALK 05:47, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Toasted Meter: so when Lamborghini won't give me any response on this inquiry, I decided to email the administration of LamboCARS, a website which is mostly used in this article. They confirmed that such a car existed but its engine was not detuned. The Mexicans didn't want a car called "The Devil" so Lamborghini changed the name of the car for the Mexican market.U1 quattro TALK 01:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Did they pass along anything that can be used as a source? e.g. brochure, registration, photos? Toasted Meter (talk) 03:40, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I used the dealership source instead of those old Mexican sources as this seems to be more relevant. They didn't pass to me any source, but they did confirm that such a car existed particularly because the company records say so. They didn't share with me any such records though.U1 quattro TALK 04:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It would be preferable to have that source, could you ask them to upload it or pass it along? Toasted Meter (talk) 05:34, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have sent them another follow up email regarding verifiability and will see if they send a source.U1 quattro TALK 06:47, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Toasted Meter (talk) 05:57, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Are you kidding? That's like saying I have a black friend so I can't be racist. Phew, what a joke. It's a unicorn. Probably at best a religious conspiracy theory 137.25.35.93 (talk) 05:36, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeh, I am still sceptical. LamboCARS is just a guy, without a real source from the time I am not convinced. Toasted Meter (talk) 06:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Did you get any documentation back? Toasted Meter (talk) 12:31, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. He hasn't got back to me yet. His information is pretty accurate and most of this article relies on that source. U1 quattro TALK 16:13, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.lamborghinipalmbeach.com/blog/history-of-the-lamborghini-diablo/
  2. ^ https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2018-48/djetset-884/25/?PHPSESSID=p5vb7t3dgog53foo9mtu1sldj1
  3. ^ https://www.motorpasion.com.mx/lamborghini/recordando-a-lamborghini-diablo-el-coche-de-poster-que-seguramente-tuviste-en-tu-cuarto

Lamborghini Costanga 2[edit]

LamboCARS is used widely in this article. I don't know why it shouldn't be relied upon when deciding for the Lamborghini Costanga. U1 quattro TALK 18:07, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a reliable source. It is a one man blog, run by someone with no relevant expertise, look at WP:SELFPUBLISH. I don't think it should be removed completely from the page (it should be replaced with reliable sources where those can be found), but when the claims are as questionable as this, it can not be referred to as any kind of authority. Toasted Meter (talk) 22:08, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Toasted Meter Lamborghini Palm Beach and a forum posted here indicate that the Diablo was called Costanga in Mexico.U1 quattro TALK 12:19, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Forums are not reliable sources, and this Lamborghini Palm Beach source very likely copied it from Wikipedia, car dealers are not known for journalistic accuracy. Toasted Meter (talk) 17:22, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

But the Mexican magazine is a Journalistic source. You cannot deny that. U1 quattro TALK 04:02, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Mexican magazine is not a source, we have no issue number so the information could be in one of many thousands of issues, a source that is impossible to verify is as good as the word of the random IP who added it. Toasted Meter (talk) 05:49, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are right. I'll leave the article as is then. I reached out to Lamborghini and got no reply from them regarding the matter. U1 quattro TALK 14:52, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, I also emailed Lamborghini and got nothing. Toasted Meter (talk) 16:55, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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