Talk:Ontario Highway 401/Archive 5

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Long Exit List

Hi everyone - just a suggestion: the Exit List section is long (of course). Would it not make sense to make the default condition of the list "Collapsed", so that readers can open it if and when they wish? PKT(alk) 21:44, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

@PKT: that's not allowed per MOS:COLLAPSE, where it says: "Collapsible templates should not conceal article content by default upon page loading. This includes reference lists, tables and lists of article content, image galleries, and image captions." (emphasis added, boldface in original) Because this article is a Featured Article, we must follow the MOS or risk demotion from that status. Imzadi 1979 → 01:45, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Population on 401 claim

Im not sure where the claim comes from that over half of Canada's population lives on the 401 when Ontario only has ~14-15 million residents. (Canada: ~37 million) MattBurnes2019 (talk) 13:08, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

nvm - it includes Quebec :) MattBurnes2019 (talk) 13:10, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

nvm - it includes Quebec :) MattBurnes2019 (talk) 13:10, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Accessibility problems

great article but a few sections have broken up sentences due to WP:Sandwich problems.--Moxy 🍁 06:47, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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Toll route shields

I keep having to change the toll highway shields, as they keep getting changed back to standard shields under the guise that they're not standard formatting. That's true but the standard shields are simply not accurate. Transportfan70 (talk) 01:13, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Table refinement

I stumbled across this article, as one does, while looking for something else entirely. As I looked at it, I noticed that the tables in the Traffic volume section extended so far to the right (at least on my 1280 px notebook) that I had to scroll horizontally to see all the data (which on my machine hangs out of the white page background). There are also a few other details for accessibility which are missing.

What I'd like to do is invert both of these tables so that they fit the page and users' displays better. That is, I intend to swap the rows and columns with each other. As I see that this is a featured article, I didn't want to just make a semi-radical change, but am asking first. (BTW, when the article made FA in 2012, the "Lane count" table was already too wide, at least for my current machine, but since then two more columns have been added.)

To show you what I intend, I have worked up the actual tables in my sandbox. Please take a look and see if the new presentation (top two tables only; the lower ones are just copies of the status quo) is something you can live with. Thanks for your input, — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 20:35, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I see no problem with it, looks good! In fact, it makes it much easier to cite the lane counts now that there is GIS data that provides that for the entire highway. I was looking at these tables the other day and decided to collapse it to prevent the horizontal scroll bars showing up by default. - Floydian τ ¢ 22:18, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your encouraging words. Having heard nothing else (and nothing discouraging), I have made the change. I hope it's generally considered an improvement. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Next stop (heh heh): Service centres along Highway 401 in the Services section. Not such a dramatic change as the previous two. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 04:52, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Been there, done that...mostly. But I have questions:
  1. Is Tilbury North Westbound only? And is Tilbury South Eastbound only?
  2. Is Cambridge North Westbound only and Cambridge South Eastbound only?
The answers could make a difference on how we (should) display the info in the table. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 05:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
@Floydian, Haljackey, Imzadi1979, Transportfan70, and FobTown: I haven't gotten a response to my (somewhat minor) questions yet. Do any of you know the answers? Thanks,— JohnFromPinckney (talk) 10:43, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
My apologies, I missed your question. Yes, Tilbury North is westbound only, and Tilbury South is eastbound only. Same for Cambridge North/South. These four service centres are directly across the highway from their other half, unlike the others that are separated by a few kilometres. In other news the ONroute website map is garbage. - Floydian τ ¢ 14:12, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Okay, thanks very much. I've done some more tweaking based on this. It appears (now that I've studied the table again and looked at our ONroute page), that West Lorne is also westbound only and Dutton eastbound only. I hope that's right. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 19:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

A ref

This might be useful for the expansion of the C-E system through Milton. - Floydian τ ¢ 16:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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