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Claim regarding goal ratio[edit]

It says he surpasses Cristiano Ronaldo. He doesn't. 70 in 91 games isn't better than 225 in 216. The same with Messi - he's got 327 in 395, which works out at 0.83 goals per game. 70 in 91 is 0.77 per game. Permission to remove or qualify claim? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.233.54 (talk) 22:18, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved to Radamel Falcao García. Consensus includes original "combatants". Favonian (talk) 11:25, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Radamel Falcao → Radamel Falcao García – Radamel and Falcao are only 1st nd 2nd names of footballer. García is surname. He is Colombian, so we must call him by the rules. Variant "Radamel Falcao" is not correct, without surname.Soul Train (talk) 17:05, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the site is not updated at all. 2009?? --Hydao (talk) 07:05, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

--Hydao (talk) 07:33, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • "no es el Sitio Oficial", yes, it's my misstake. So, anyway, he is not mentioned only as "Radamel Falcao", as you say. He allways named Radamel Falcao Garcia in Colombia and Argentina, and nickname is only nickname (I mean, what he writes at his back during the games). Juan Roman Riquelme plays with "Roman" at his back, so should we rename article to "Juan Roman"? I don't think so.--Soul Train (talk) 07:48, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • So, just go to this page - falcao.com.co/bio, QED--Soul Train (talk) 08:03, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, клац--Soul Train (talk) 08:08, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It depends on the case... for exmaple Nuno Gomes. Gomes is not his real surname at all, he just adopted it because of Fernando Gomes.

... Anyway, Radamel Falcao is OK, but adding the García doesn't make much difference. But let's see what other fans/editors think about it. --Hydao (talk) 08:48, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Falcao Garcia is not Brasilian or Portuguese, he is Colombian, and article must been in traditional form. "Radamel Falcao" are only 1st and 2nd names. Without surname. This is incorrect. Also, the fact that Falcao Garcia is very popular and common form in press and in newspapers. And it's only your problem if you don't know this fact. Just google it.--Soul Train (talk) 09:18, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, sorry, yes, you are 100% right. Radamel Falcao García is more appropriate. --Hydao (talk) 09:32, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Favonian#Radamel_Falcao --Hydao (talk) 18:04, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nominator. Reasonable request. - Darwinek (talk) 13:09, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Edited the reference [6] to 'First person to win consecutive Europa League/Uefa Cup titles with two different teams.' Initially said 'European Seasonal titles'. However, both Marcel Desailly, Samuel Eto and others have done that in the European cup. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.189.93.244 (talk) 06:09, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

High levels of vandalism during European Super Cup game[edit]

Might I suggest locking this page temporarily, and reverting to the most recent version prior to the ongoing match? Mcjamieuk (talk) 20:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

why is guardiolas name in the front[edit]

this is FALCAO"S article.. no need for a retired persons comment. everyone knows he is a world class striker.. dont try to put the clown guardiolas name in front there... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.237.211.140 (talk) 20:09, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hyperbole and exaggeration[edit]

While I have no doubt in my mind that Falcao is indeed one of the best footballers in the world, there is way, way too much hyperbole in the opening paragraph. It is very easy to find a reference/source somewhere on the internet describing a footballer as such and such. The opening paragraph should consist only of achievements, awards, and FACTS. If not, we're open to any sort of exaggeration from Youtube fanboys. The same principle applies to the pages of Messi, Rooney, Ibrahimovic, Totti... whoever. --Tomsega (talk) 10:19, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 41 - Incorrect Title at Bottom of Page[edit]

Its title indicates that he was transferred to Chelsea when he actually moved to Atlético Madrid, and the Guardian article it links to says the same — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.124.52 (talk) 05:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Praise" section[edit]

Just removed a welter of peacock/PR language fr/ the article. I know Falcao is a great player, and it's likely that some of what I removed can be referenced. But it read like something written by his agent or some fan. So it's gone. Tapered (talk) 20:08, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong udpated and vandalism[edit]

some body is currently upadting this page as falcao were playing on Chelsea and it is not correct please provide the current information falco is not a chelsea player this page should be protected. Millertheinc (talk) 18:35, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've now cleaned this page, and I believe that all of the vandalism is gone. Will also keep an extra eye on the article in the next days. Mentoz86 (talk) 23:42, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lanceros Boyaca + Millionarios Bogota[edit]

Radamel Falcao played for Millionarios professionally, but in the artical it says he was only trialed, then uses an artical refering to a friendly exhibition between Athletico and Millionarios when he plays for Athletico, and he was allowed to chose to play as Millionarios for the friendly, but he said no. However this does not say he did not previously play for Millionarios as a professional because he did and also as youth. [[ Atban3000 (talk) 13:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC) (User)[reply]

Also he never played for Lanceros as this was only a rumour. Atban3000 (talk) 13:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC) (User)[reply]

Of course he played for Lanceros on second division, that info is everywhere. Stop adding that nonsense millonarios part — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.82.253.85 (talk) 04:03, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2[edit]

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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 16:49, 19 April 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Radamel Falcao García → Radamel Falcao – This article was moved to the current title in October 2011 but the move was made without taking into account any wikipedia policy. I propose move this article to the WP:COMMONNAME as per a multitude of reliable sources. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] Zarcadia (talk) 20:50, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Sorry, but García is his family name, even if in some sources he's casually referred to as Radamel Falcao thinking Falcao is the surname we don't want to duplicate that in a BLP title. It isn't WP:COMMONNAME it's a mistake. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:18, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That makes absolutely no sense at all. – Michael (talk) 08:30, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. – Michael (talk) 21:36, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:COMMONNAME. No one ever refers to him using his actual last name. – PeeJay 00:32, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - I have only ever heard him being called 'Radamel Falcao' - never García. Clear case of COMMONNAME. GiantSnowman 10:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Height[edit]

His height needs to be changed to 1.78m which is 5'10" flat. From the screen he looks this tall and there are several sources who back up this height.

Official Atletico Madrid Profile http://en.clubatleticodemadrid.com/jugadores/radamel-falcao-garcia-falcao-2

ESPN Profile http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/87706/radamel-zarate-falcao-garcia?cc=4716

TransferMarkt Profile http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/falcao/profil/spieler_39152.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.170.60.254 (talk) 00:20, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Individual honours[edit]

How exactly is Falcao the "first player in history to win 2 consecutive European tournament titles with two different teams"?

For a start, Samuel Eto'o did that with Barcelona and Inter in 2009 and 2010 and I'm sure there are others down the years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.30.14 (talk) 01:30, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Club List[edit]

"Falcao made his debut for Lanceros Boyacá in the Colombian Categoría Primera B (second tier) on 28 August 1999 at the age of 13 years and 199 days, thus becoming the youngest debutant at that level of Colombian professional football." Given this statement, why is the Primera B club not among those listed in his career stats? Kenallen (talk) 17:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. Added — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.200.2.126 (talk) 09:55, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 1 June 2013[edit]

Page states that Falcao is the "First player in history to win 2 consecutive European tournament titles with two different teams". This is false, portuguese player Paulo Sousa won two consecutive Champions Leagues for different clubs. He won them in 1995/1996 with Juventus and in 1996/1997 with Borussia Dortmund. Marcel Desailly and Samuel E'too have also done it. 89.180.35.98 (talk) 03:45, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BryanG (talk) 04:52, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 27 July 2013[edit]

Please change in radamel Falcao: "Age concern In July 2013, it came to light that Falcao's former school, Colegio San Pedro Claver de Bucaramanga, held a registration document that indicates he was born in 1984 whilst his place of birth is actually the Colombian capital of Bogotá." to "A debate over the true age of Colombia star Radamel Falcao was ended as local press published a copy of the striker's official birth certificate from the Santa Marta municipality where he was born on February 10, 1986, proving once and for all that he is indeed 27." There is no need to create an age concern section in his personal life part of the biography. Sources: http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/224943.html http://sports.ndtv.com/football/news/211402-radamel-falcao-birth-certificate-published-to-end-age-row http://www.sportyou.es/blog/futbol/2013/07/26/falcao-tiene-27-anos-segun-el-certificado-de-nacimiento-466584.html http://deportes.terra.com.pe/futbol/internacional/francia/liga-francesa/acta-de-nacimiento-le-da-la-razon-a-falcao-sobre-su-edad,42d25842ca710410VgnVCM4000009bcceb0aRCRD.html http://www.maspormas.com/noticias/deportes/radamel-falcao-si-nacio-en-1986 Pipemarin (talk) 02:10, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: This page is no longer protected. Subject to consensus, you should be able to edit it yourself. --SamX‧☎‧✎‧S 15:52, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Falcao at 2006 Copa Sudamericana[edit]

It says in the article that Falcao participated in the 2006 Copa Sudamericana in river's match against Atlético Paranaense, but in the Club Career statistics section, there isn't any appearance of him in the 2006-2007 season under the continental/other columns אדם מה (talk) 09:52, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2014[edit]

1)please change the current club from Monaco to Real Madrid because he just got transferred to Real Madrid 2) Also change the Front line . Falcao is the Colombian Footballer who plays for Real Madrid

220.225.142.21 (talk) 19:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done Do you have any reliable source? Nothing has officially been confirmed. QED237 (talk) 19:35, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever said that is an idiot. Falcao is on the plane heading to Manchester United today to complete loan deal. ~Ongoing transfer~ not officially confirmed yet but will be confirmed by the end of today (1st September 2014) http://metro.co.uk/2014/09/01/manchester-united-agree-51million-deal-to-sign-monaco-striker-radamel-falcao-4852490/, https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-falcao-will-sign-manchester-united-080339662--sow.html, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2739246/Transfer-News-DEADLINE-DAY-LIVE-Follow-deals-rumours-drama-unfolds.html, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2739544/Radamel-Falcao-signs-Manchester-United-loan-12m.html, http://talksport.com/football/manchester-united-agree-loan-deal-monaco-striker-radamel-falcao-140901111199 151.225.217.187 (talk) 09:22, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2014[edit]

As he transfer Manchester United was confirmed please change the below line | years5 = 2013– | clubs5 = Monaco | caps5 = 20 | goals5 = 11 to | years5 = 2013–2014 | clubs5 = Monaco | caps5 = 20 | goals5 = 11 | years6 = 2014– | clubs6 = Manchester United | caps6 = 0 | goals6 = 0 Rpganesshkumar (talk) 12:25, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide a reliable source for your edit request.--Param Mudgal (talk) 12:51, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed by Manchester United http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Sep/radamel-falcao-signs-for-manchester-united-on-loan.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.83.240.133 (talk) 00:33, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2014[edit]

Please change the old profile picture to a recent one. he plays for manchester united currently. This might be a possible picture.. (https://www.google.mu/search?biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=falcao+man+utd&btnG=#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=WeiZSRUg2CEMoM%253A%3B4jEdBjW7RX2O8M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fe1.365dm.com%252F14%252F09%252F768x576%252Ffootball-old-trafford-radomel-falcao-manchester-united_3202806.jpg%253F20140911174440%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.sportinglife.com%252Ffootball%252Fnews%252Farticle%252F330%252F9466486%252Fsun-prem%3B768%3B576) Manutd17d (talk) 11:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done That clearly states it is copyright by Sporting Life - you need to take the picture yourself or find one that you can prove is not copyright - Arjayay (talk) 12:07, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There`s no Falcao 2014 statics with Colombia national football team — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.106.173.75 (talk) 15:30, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Chances of updating the main picture[edit]

What are the chances that we can update the main picture? I mean, that picture is super old. He now has a different look! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndresDashie (talk • contribs) 01:40, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you have an image of him that we are legally allowed to use for free, by all means upload it. Otherwise there's nothing we can do. – PeeJay 10:10, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge tag[edit]

Two weeks since the tag was added, no consensus to merge the goals article into the list. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:17, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Crzycheetah added a merge template to the List of international goals scored by Radamel Falcao‎ list article, yet did not add any discussion here as to why that should take place. I will initiate the discussion, as is proper, here on their behalf. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:58, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose the standalone list of his international goals is just fine, it's got some analysis that doesn't appear in the main article, which is in excess of 40KB readable prose. Looking at WP:SPLIT, the best advice I could give Crzycheetah (other than to stop disrupting Wikipedia to prove a point) is that if they find the list lacking in some way, "why not fix it by adding more info?" A similar list (List of international goals scored by Romelu Lukaku) is forked off a smaller main article and has consensus that it's good enough to be a featured list. This is a list of goals scored by Colombia's top ever scorer, who continues to score goals despite his age (he scored a couple of days ago against Venezuela), and a list of 31 items is quite obviously just fine as far as standalone lists goes. The David Healy list has just a handful more goals (36 I think) but is a featured list. We had an AFD session on these lists a while back, and the consensus was that top scorers for countries could manage an independent list of their goals as long as forking them out wasn't too silly. Some of Crzycheetah's hyperbole at the FLC: "By this tendency, we are going to have lists with 10 goals or even less next time." (this list has 31 and counting), "I will not even be surprised to see a page where it states "this player may score a goal one day because he shot on goal 10 times"" (just illogical hyperbole), "We even have a candidate with 1 item for three weeks now and none of the FLC directors/delegates quick-failed it yet." (not even pertinent to the list in question). I'm not sure I understand this sudden full tilt against certain FLCs, but since Crzycheetah unliterally redirected the list back the main article and then tagged the list without raising any kind of merge discussion, we are now pointedly forced here. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:58, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the merge. Found this while reviewing the FLC. No comment regarding the actions taken or the things said. In my opinion, this is a suitable fork and stand-alone list. I think the point that Falcao is the leading scorer for his country solidifies this of sorts. I don't see this as a slippery slope (hypothetical 10 goals scored list), and would prefer to assess articles one at a time, instead of setting an arbitrary number of goals scored before a list can be forked. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:15, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Falcao has 30+ goals, that's perfectly suitable for a spin-off article because he's the nation's top scorer. It's when there's separate articles on top scorers for Gibraltar (2) or Sao Tome (3) that it goes too far, and hopefully we're smart enough not to do that Harambe Walks (talk) 11:44, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment given that Crzycheetah added the tag as to prove some kind of point, without any justification, perhaps we can speedy close this and move on? The Rambling Man (talk) 22:58, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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