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Dyslexic[edit]

I have read a few times now that she is dyslexic. Is there any plans on this? Is it an urban legend? I have done some reading on it, but the only thing I can find are those Celebrity Fact Sheet pages, and they aren't exactly reliable.

If we can find enough supporting information to add it, we might also want to add her name to the dyslexic page, under Famous dyslexics.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.181.132.116 (talk) 09:42, 23 November 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Heritage[edit]

Question: What is Salma´s father in origin? I heard that her father´s Religion is Maronit-Orthodox that is a christian Religion. The most christian Lebanes are Aramean(Syriacs). Can anybody help me with the truth?

PS. Syriacs are not the inhabitants of the land Syrian, Syriacs means the Arameans.

Answer: her father is maronite, maronites have nothing to do with the orthodox sect. They are Catholics.

Correction: Maronites used to be Orthodox(as in Eastern Orthodox Christians) before the Maronite Church entered into Communion with the Catholic one. They are descended from Central Syria and only later migrated to Lebanon, unlike the Muslims and Orthodox Christians that were always there.Sufitul (talk) 10:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Her grandparents are Maronite Assyrians (otherwise known as Syriacs, Arameans, Chaldeans see Assyrian naming dispute) who lived in Greater Syria (which is now infact Lebanon today for simplicity's sake) which makes her father of Assyrian-Lebanese descent. ILLeSt 14:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, there some answers, but no sources, hava anybody serious sources? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.34.34.127 (talk) 00:59, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.zindamagazine.com/html/archives/1997/zn031097.html ILLeSt (talk) 15:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I actually met her once and yes she is Assyrian Maronite by mouth. I also read several articles not just from Zinda Magazine. In other sites it also says she is Assyrian Maronite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.0.168.241 (talk) 20:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral?[edit]

The glowing description of 'Frida' is a bit flowery. Not inaccurate per se, but a little overdone, maybe.

I agree adding a section on her dyslexia (she is dyslexic) would be a good touch

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ka1iban (talk • contribs) 02:38, 26 February 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Matthew Perry a foreign star?[edit]

matthew perry was born in massachussetts and holds duel us/canadian citizenship

Foreign-ness is all relative. He is foreign to me, since I'm Australian. --Thexeber 17:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hayek[edit]

Is Hayek her real last name? Its a German name not Mexican or Lebanese so I assume it isn't. Does anyone know her true name?

It is her real last name. It's not German, it's Lebanese. Her father's parents were Lebanese. --Vizcarra 23:23, 14 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually a Levantine-Assyrian surname popular with the Syriacs in Lebanon —Preceding unsigned comment added by ILLeSt (talk • contribs) 15:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What about Friedrich von Hayek?
I suggest you read this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria-Germany_connection :) ILLeSt (talk) 13:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yep.. Hayek (????) is an Arabic word and a common name especially in Lebanon.
It's a coincidence that happens a lot between arabic and German, in Arabic Hayek means someone who sews, other examples of words that have the same sound in arabic and german but never the same meaning would include (Viel, Herr, Bis, Kalb, Loch, Kuss, ... etc)

Actually Hayek is a Czech surname, at least the one used in germanic countries, it comes from Czech Jews (Hájek is Czech mutation of [xa'jen]) not Arabs. Jewish name Selma also exists. The correct transliteration of arabic weaver is Hayik. There are not more than 3 million Lebanese in Americas while there are at least 60 million former Austrian empire descendants (where we lived before reinstating a sovereign state). From what I know she stated she is a Lebanese in one interview only - and the reporter thought she said she is a lesbian. I somehow don't believe he misheard. About her darker skin tone - mestizo are usually that way. By the way F. Hayek's ancestors were Viennese Czechs (an extremely large group even today). The Assyrian-German connection is a complete nonsense at least if we look at names since surnames didn't exist before 1300s in central Europe to begin with. Hope I was of some help. -JZ (86.49.78.125) 17:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

This is really crazy: Almost whatever page I have a look at these days (see, for example, Teri Hatcher), the PD images or fair use screenshots have been replaced by "better" (ha) images, and immediately someone else comes along and tags them {{unverified}}. Haven't we got better things to do than working against each other?

I'm wondering if someone has an idea how to handle this problem in the future. If we don't do anything about it, it will rise exponentially. For the time being, I'm going to use the old Salma Hayek image again here, ignoring both Image:Salma_hayek.jpg and Image:Salma.jpg. My guess is that it'll take about two hours until it is removed again. <KF> 00:23, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but when you put images up that are copyright violations, you are the one working against the project. Removing the illegal images is not working against each other, it's doind what needs to be done. You can't ignore the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/law">law</a> just because you want a prettier picture. DreamGuy 03:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Wake up, DreamGuy, and read again what I have written. <KF> 20:27, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
PS And also have a look at the following talk pages:
-Okay, so can someone find a nice picture of Hayek that's usable? ASAP? Heh.

Cleanup[edit]

I've tried to clean up the language to a more professional standard of English, and removed some of the more "fannish" turns of phrase in favour of neutral language. Mhacdebhandia 03:37, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

-Made several corrections in grammar, spelling. gspawn 16:56, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Relation to FA?[edit]

This question will probably have a "no" for an answer but is Salma Hayek at all related to the famous nobel laureate economist Friedrich Hayek, AKA F.A. Hayek? --Atlastawake 19:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Does she look like she would be related to anyone from an old prominent German/Austrian family? (unsigned by 24.141.217.93
Yes, she does. --Vizcarra 06:21, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You never know....it might be a second cousin or something.--Atlastawake 01:18, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Picture bis[edit]

er... does one of the most beautiful women there is hava to have such an awful picture on her article? Jules.LT 23:48, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, that picture is terrible! Where does one fine GFDL compatible pictures of actors/actresses? Gflores Talk 23:07, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
That's exactly the problem. See Talk:Salma Hayek#Images above. We've come full circle now. <KF> 23:17, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So-called nuns and expulsion from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/search.php?q=school">school</a>[edit]

Hayek supposedly “terrified” so-called nuns. (Non-cloistered religious women should be called Sisters.) I guess readers are supposed to laugh at that loaded word "terrified" when it happens to religious Sisters. That word “terrified” is repeated in the vast majority of other Hayek bios on the Internet, and it’s unfortunately <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/present">present</a> here. (Who copied whom?)

Some sites specify the reason for Hayek’s expulsion: she pulled pranks on the so-called nuns such as setting their clocks back after entering their convent. This all sounds apocryphal to me and cries out for verification before such a story is ever entered into Wiki’s Hayek bio. What’s the name of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/search.php?q=school">school</a> in Louisiana? Which city? Was she formally expelled, or did her parents decide to remove Hayek? What year? Why did her parents decide to send her to the U.S. for schooling? Has even one Sister been asked to verify this whole story? Not a single site I found answers any of these questions. One should be extremely skeptical about what even Hayek claims, since celebrities (or should I say humans) are notorious for twisting the truth for their benefit. Hayek could have devised this supposedly cute story simply as a cover for her aversion to studying at the time. Or maybe it's entirely true (although I strongly doubt it). Perhaps someone writing an in-depth article or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/book">book</a> on Hayek has done or will do the necessary legwork and verification.

Why am I annoyed by this passage? I suspect it’s the typical sexist drivel aimed at college-educated women, a number of them with masters and doctorate degrees.

woah, that last paragraph kinda came out of nowhere :) Sexist? Why don't you stick with unverifiable :) Oreo man 16:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I went to school there and she was in my class for those two years. She, like most of the spanish speaking boarding school students, only planned to stay two years to learn and improve English skills. To the best of my knowledge, her exit was planned, not forced. Sally, A.S.H. Class of 84, 04:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

2005 Oscars[edit]

The line "At the 2005 Oscars, Ms. Hayek was easily the most beautiful on the red <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/carpet">carpet</a>." was removed due to bias.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by The Dead Flag Blues (talk • contribs) 19:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic and Portuguese fluency?[edit]

Where did this claim come from? She's obviously fluent in Spanish and English, but I hadn't heard of her speaking Arabic or Portuguese. I tried to find some more information online, but couldn't find a good source. f(x)=ax2+bx+c 06:19, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think she speaks Arabic, I have seen an interview with here made by an Arabic channel and she spoke in English.

Lebanon Inmigrants were coming to Mexico in the early 30's. They're very well known in Mexico City as custom made tailors and clothes/textil traders. Her Grand parents came from Lebanon. Is it that too hard to understand?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.164.169.39 (talk) 23:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Religion/Ramtha?[edit]

There have been many rumors about Salma's invlovement in RSE, or the Ramtha <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/search.php?q=school">School</a> of Enlightenment. These rumors are very well founded, as she calls Yelm, Washington her <a href="http://www.hrena.com/search.php?q=home">home</a> for at least a month out of each year. That is a rumor as well, but it is reasonable because I personally have helped her find landscaping ideas at my <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?page=job">job</a> in Yelm. One of my co-workers lives two doors down from her. I don't know how much internet digging will do, as I'm not sure she wants this information publicly avilable, but the wiki entry isn't necessarily complete.

http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060716/NEWS/607160343 http://www.ramtha.com/createyourday/

"devoutly Catholic family". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maronite_Church - 217.21.53.237 22:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fansite[edit]

Regarding the "one fansite if necessary" rule of thumb, as I said, I was aware of this; however, I did not necessarily think that the existing one was better just by virtue of its already being on the page. Upon examining them both a bit, the new one which was added seems to contain more information, as well as having been online since October 2004, while the other has only been online since July 25, 2006. This in itself obviously doesn't make it inferior, but may speak to the depth of the contents. I did not research either site in-depth; any other opinions on which to keep? Shannernanner 05:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem with that site replacing the other, I just didn't want to have multiple sites listed. As to which one should be listed, I can't say I looked into the matter too deeply either. I thought the one that was already listed looked nicer, but both seemed to be fairly well updated. If the one you replaced it with does indeed have more depth, then it's probably best to leave it there. f(x)=ax2+bx+c 07:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'Most important actress'[edit]

I find this sentence 'She is arguably the most important Mexican star in Hollywood today.' very strange. What does does make an actress 'important'? She might be the biggest or highly paid actress, but important is subjective, therefor: not NPOV.--Soetermans 19:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. I wouldn't call it NPOV, but definitely weasel words. Cburnett 05:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Measurements[edit]

Her measurements are missing. Many sites list it as 36C-25-37 with source as Celebrity Sleuths Magazine. Is there a verifiable source? InTeGeR13 18:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure the Encyclopædia Britannica has documented proof of Ms. Hayek's breast and backside measurements...you could start there. While we're at it, the articles of Katie Couric, Diane Keaton, and Condoleeza Rice are missing breast and backside measurements as well. Sigh. I think I'm going to stop reading these talk pages for a while........

Well, I dunno much about her measurements, but what I know well is that she's 157cm tall! Hope this bit of info will be useful for you... ;) Damn, she's so attractive! Asharidu

36C ??? Ha, ha. Now there is one woman who is without a doubt bigger than a 'C'. Let's at least go with a 'D'. Admittedly, her small stature could make that look even bigger. 205.170.134.65 (talk) 21:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First paragraph very awkward[edit]

The first paragraph is difficult to read. It should be simplified to the awards she has won and let the nominated ones fill in elsewhere. Morenooso 20:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

February 13 2007 edit concerning Ramtha[edit]

Where in the citations does it read she is/was a member of Ramtha? I can find no reference. Ronbo76 05:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reference #6 doesn't mention Hayek AFAICT. Xiner (talk, email) 16:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

::It is also referenced by #5 which is to the general page on Ramtha. If no valid citation exists, this comment should be removed as it becomes POV. Ronbo76 16:43, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fiance[edit]

Link under personal life changed to François-Henri Pinault, who is her fiance. Previously linked to his father, François Pinault, who is married.--Harropc 22:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

American citizen[edit]

did you know she recently became an american citizen? it is not included in the artcile.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.240.40.51 (talk) 15:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edits regarding nationality[edit]

Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Opening paragraph. It states:

Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability.

In Hayek's case, she is very notable for being a Mexican actor who has taken the international stage through her varied accomplishments. Ronbo76 01:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please note that despite the notation in the edit summary left by the user, I do not endorse the edit's made by Armyranger. Furthermore, Mexican is a nationality, not an ethnicity, and should be included per #3 in the MOSBIO referenced above. --After Midnight 0001 04:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Concur. Ronbo76 10:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

did you know she got us ciizenship? read the vdare article

Despite limited fluency in English, Hayek moved to Los Angeles, California, in 1991 to study acting under Stella Adler, hoping for a career in Hollywood. Robert Rodriguez and his producer wife Elizabeth Avellan soon gave Hayek the break she needed, a starring role opposite Antonio Banderas in 1995's Desperado. The movie caught Hollywood's attention, as moviegoers proved to be as dazzled by Hayek as Rodriguez had been. Due to Salma's loyalty to the director she would later decline playing the role Catherine Zeta-Jones eventually took in The Mask of Zorro after Rodriguez abandoned the project.

It is a fact that she is a US Citizen, however, the mexican laws about dual citizenship with the US have been so far ambiguous over the years, it is unclearly if she is still mexican citizen... but soemthing is for sure, she herself doesn't considers mexican so therefore I'm removing the mexican actress at the beggining of the article just for leave the american one. I could cite my source, but if I'm removing the mexican part I don't know where to do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.131.113.75 (talk) 19:13, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Should the first sentence say Mexican-American, as she is from Mexico but now an American citizen? Best name (talk) 23:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:El callejon de los milagros scene.PNG[edit]

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Fair use rationale for Image:Frida ashlejudd.jpg[edit]

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Academy Awards[edit]

The article said she was one of only three mexican actresses to have been nominated for an oscar.Hayek is the first and only mexican to be nominated for an oscar and the second hispanic female to be nominated for one.

First Mexican Actress to be nominated for an Oscar was Katy Jurado (died in 2006). The second one scapes from my mind this moment. Salma was the Third. And this is a true Fact. But she was the first nominated for a LEading Female Role. That's Different.

Salma Hayek is the second of three Mexican actresses nominated. The first was Katy Jurado and the third was Adriana Barraza. The article previously mentioned Hayek as one of four Hispanic actresses nominated to an Oscar. The truth is closer to one of eight to ten. Other than Hayek, Jurado and Barraza other Hispanic actress nominees include Rita Moreno (Puerto Rican), Norma Aleandro (Argentine), Rosie Perez (of Puerto Rican descent), Catalina Sandino Moreno (Colombian) and Penelope Cruz (Spanish). There is also winner Mercedes Ruehl (partly of Cuban descent) and Fernanda Montenegro (as a Portugese speaking Brazilian not technically Hispanic but a Latina indeed).Light Bulb 08:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i've changed it from latin-american to Hispanic actress as not EVERY hispanic is from south-american as Penelope Cruz proves :) also latina-Hispanic IS NOT a race —Preceding unsigned comment added by Veggiegirl (talk • contribs) 15:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Powerful?[edit]

"She is considered as the most powerful mexican in the United States." By who? What does that even mean? She's an entertainer. Could she have me killed? --Howdybob 03:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is the ability to distribute violence your only definition of "powerful"? How sad. Influence is power, and people as solitary and gentle as Henry David Thoreau have exerted a huge influence on our culture. Likewise, someone who owns all access to a form of mass media (think having all cable news channels owned by the same person) would have tremendous power, even if they'd never handled a gun. 205.170.134.65 (talk) 21:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Influece is not the same as power; June Callwood made that clear. BrainyBabe (talk) 11:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Broken link[edit]

Source #23 is not working, i.e. the link does not work.

Tetty2 21:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

I have put new images up of Salma Hayek.C6758 03:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not use copyrighted material in violation of policy, thanks. Videmus Omnia Talk 04:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He, sorry for the inconvenients I made of cause. I'm much appreciative for the time you have taken overseen this article. As an individual I can understand the necessity for standards and as such I will do my very best to follow all conventions and reguletions set foot by Wikipedia. However, it seems it has became the norm withing this article to remove images. I hope all edits of this aricle ramain imparcial. As for the images in question, no longer will they be depicted within the article itself. In addition I will be greatefull if you can give me additional information on how I can better use copyrighted material and images as I will continu to edit this article. C6758 06:07, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New picture[edit]

Fine a picture that shows how nice Salma Hayek looks. I this the current image is not faltering purposely.--Margrave1206 (talk) 21:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the current picture a little inappropriate?

NagamiTwo (talk) 11:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First sentence[edit]

I find that the first sentence is way too bloated. Anyone agree?

Snydar (talk) 07:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Salma Hayek kidnapped[edit]

I see there are a couple of references to Salma Hayek being kidnapped while in college, the most mainstream reference I saw is People who write 'Salma Hayek is an accomplished gymnast who once had aspirations of becoming an Olympic competitor.' Should this be included?: http://www.people.com/people/salma_hayek

SebRovera (talk) 00:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to see a more in-depth reference to kidnapping than a one or two sentence mention in a list of fun facts. The gymnast content is already included. Wildhartlivie (talk) 11:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fernanda Montenegro --> Not a Latina?[edit]

According to her own Wikipedia page, Montenegro is Brazilian, but this article calls her "Latin American." Brazil is nowhere near Latin America, and its people are not Hispanics, they speak Portuguese. I think calling her a "Latin American actress" is inaccurate.

Brazilians are latins, portuguese is a language that descend from Latin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.185.232 (talk) 05:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Smoking[edit]

Citation needed for the claim in the Personal life section that while preparing for her role in Frida Hayek "became a smoker and is currently trying to kick the habit." LaksPad (talk) 18:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trivial and removed per WP:BLP. Rodhullandemu 18:56, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name change to 'Salma Hayek Pinault'[edit]

In her June 2010 interview with InStyle, Salma announced that she now goes by the name 'Salma Hayek Pinault'. Please see the article here: http://news.instyle.com/2010/05/18/our-june-cover-girl-is-salma-hayek-pinault/

The necessary changes should be made to the article, however, I am not an editor of the Salma article nor do I know much about her or name changes, so I thought I'd just bring it to the attention of those who do :) Starswept (talk) 15:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)starswept[reply]

We generally do not make such changes unless it effects the name under which she works. I think if the name change is formalized regarding work, then it can be changed. Right now, she's known professionally as Salma Hayek. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree; leave it where it as that's what she's know as. If she's credited w/Pinault in a few films and people and the media adopt it, then revisit the question. I created the redirect. Jack Merridew 02:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OMG. Twice in one day on agreement. Hmm. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:06, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
WooHoo, I like seeing this, good for both of you. Keep up the good work. --CrohnieGalTalk 10:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ramtha's School of Enlightenment[edit]

I make no judgement over the organization, but I would point out that the only reference or documentation of this is the link to a the organization's website. There is no other citation. Seems like that is an uncertifiable claim since the only citation is the organization itself. Just wondering if it goes against Wikipedia policies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.58.160.237 (talk) 10:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC) Sorry I forgot to sign that. M. Anders[reply]

Indigenous peoples in Mexico[edit]

To suggest that Mexicans are originally from another Spanish country discounts Indigenous peoples in Mexico who were present prior to European visits. Please use direct citations that show a direct lineage for Hayek. ----moreno oso (talk) 16:41, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Let me write what you wrote "To suggest that Americans are originally from another English country discounts Indigenous peoples in the United States who were present prior to European visits"--Anen87 (talk) 20:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In her interview on Inside the Actors Studio, Hayek explicitly stated that her mother's background is "Spanish". It can be viewed here, starting at the 4:20 mark. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 19:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's sad and true that in Mexico celebs would be embarrassed to admit their indigenous blood. So unless a DNA test is taken I guess we will never know. I wish to see her on the show Who do you think you are but I doubt she would ever agree to be on it. I want to know if her mother is fully Spanish. Also I want to point out that her father's surnames (paternal & then maternal) is Hayek Domninguez! Are the Dominguez on her father's side Mexican? If so, then the indigenous blood could actually come from her father's side!--76.213.231.4 (talk) 02:52, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from USCLaw2285, 16 December 2010[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} 

Please change X: Mexican American to Y: Mexican

((Salma Hayek is not American, she was born and raised in Veracruz, Mexico.))

Please change X: Lebanese descent to Y: daughter to Mexican business man of Lebanese descent. (( because her father was born in Mexico (Sami Hayek Dominguez) a famous politician and Business man))

please change X: Daughter of opera singer Diana Jimenez Medina to Y: Daughter of Mexican opera singer Diana Jimenez Medina

(( because her mother is not of Lebanese descent which is a well known fact in Latin American (Spanish related media.) hence the Spanish last names))

--Reliable Sources-- http://www.superiorpics.com/salma_hayek/ http://historico.portalmix.com/cine/bios/shayek.shtml

USCLaw2285 (talk) 10:53, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: {{edit semi-protected}} is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. →♠GƒoleyFour♠← 05:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Naturalization[edit]

"Hayek is a naturalized United States citizen". Doesn't that make her a "mexican-american actress"? She's already mentioned in this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_american Fremdschaemen (talk) 14:13, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One parent is Mexican, the other Lebanese. What's the right appellation? There's been some dueling edits with no discussion over this point:
In my own opinion, Mexican-Lebanese seems correct, in terms of heritage, while Mexican-American seems correct, in term of nationality. Is there a WP policy or guideline indicating what's most correct for the article?
JoeSperrazza (talk) 19:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's a general problem on wiki. There are so many different ways of how people are described. I think it's right to say at the begining of the article that she's mexican-american because that's her current nationality. But if she is also from lebanese ancestry that should be additionally mentioned in her bio (its already mentioned under "Early life"). I think that should be the general agreement. The nationality is what counts. Of course it's interessting where her parents are from, but you don't call Conan O'Brien an irish-american just because his family is of irish ancestry. Or Babe Ruth a german-american because his parents immigrated from there. They are american because that's their nationality. Fremdschaemen (talk) 13:10, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yup. MOS:BIO clearly states that we should not emphasize on ethnicity in the lead. Nymf hideliho! 15:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the short-form modifiers need to go, for the most part, and be replaced by a genealogical and life-travels summary (a brief, but not too brief one); but, while they are here when there is a dispute with a logical basis for different points of view on terminology, the different points of view should be represented equally. You might have something like a seperate box for such things, and someone like Tiger Woods who came up with his own self-description 'Cablinasian' as a child would have that equal description in his box along with the usual 'racist' (and etymologically poor) description African-American that says something more about where exactly he lives than who he is. The roles a performer takes actually somewhat define the person. This is far from a simple matter. My vote in general for ethnicity of an actor/actress is to skip it in the lead and talk directly about the roles the person has been chosen for and accepted as a way to define the person (ethnically, nationally, racially, in terms of view on gender relationships, and other things). The reader can then continue to the biographical aspects later in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.15.152.77 (talk) 00:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In the Info Box, I changed "nationality" to American because of her naturalization as a United States citizen and added a line "ethnicity" to reflect her Mexican / Lebanese ethnic heritage. I did this on the model of the Wiki article for Carlos Slim, who is of a similar ethnic background. AlanSiegrist (talk) 15:02, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In the Info Box, I also added the proper links to Americans, Mexican people and Lebanese people, respectively. AlanSiegrist (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
On the "Mexican actress" or "Mexican-American actress" issue, I think it is indisputable that she is a Mexican actress, having been born in Mexico and acted in Mexican films. But she has also acted in Hollywood films and is now an American citizen, so she certainly may also be called an American actress. I don't know if she self-identifies as being "Mexican-American." Would "Mexican and American actress" be a reasonable compromise? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlanSiegrist (talk • contribs) 16:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

dual citizenship ?[edit]

article does not say. i believe many americans are also mexican citizens. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.95.229 (talk) 23:45, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

People like her can easily obtain many citizenships around the world.--Nasir Ghobar (talk) 00:19, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


mistake?[edit]

I noticed that you removed the "Breasts" section; was this an accident? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.35.10.178 (talk) 02:32, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If nobody's responding, I'm going to assume that this was a mistake, and revert the change. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.35.10.178 (talk) 03:54, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Leave her breasts alone I love her — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.253.200 (talk) 20:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Full name[edit]

A recent edit removed the name "Valgarma" from Hayek's full name. I could not find any source at all documenting Hayek's full name, so I am forced to allow this edit to stand for lack of evidence to the contrary. Elizium23 (talk) 18:26, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have also had a look but not found anything (one article mentions her "first given name" as if there may be others). Any reversion would need a reliable source to support it, as does basically any personal information about a living person, so I would say we are "required to welcome" this edit rather than being "forced to accept" it. More generally, all information on Wikipedia must be readily verifiable, whether or not there is an inline reference. The exchange over several edits illustrates the importance of providing a good edit summary. --Mirokado (talk) 19:39, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looking through the history, I found the edit where this name was introduced; it was from an anon IP editor with only that single edit, and no talk page. Not sure what to make of that one way or another. But it would be interesting to hear if Emilyk922 (talk · contribs) who removed the name today has any source at all to support her assertion. Elizium23 (talk) 20:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There are lots of web pages using that full name, but mostly imdb, youtube, facebook or junk database sites which for all we know could be following the unsourced and uncontrollably diffused information which has been in Wikipedia since 2009-02-01 06:37:08 (see diff above). The earliest mention I find from a Google news search is Salma Hayek hat ihren Milliardär geheiratet! from Moviepilot.de, 16.02.2009, 16:23 (two weeks after the Wikipedia update) and I am not sure that would count as a reliable source anyway. The Library of Congress catalog entry does not include the extra name. We need a reliable source that predates the unsourced update to Wikipedia, which is one good reason for removing such unsourced material immediately: it poisons the well. If a normally-reliable source is published later, we have to ask: where did they get the information from? I guess an interview where she says "my full name is ..." would be fine... --Mirokado (talk) 01:41, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Let's not encourage Citogenesis :-) Elizium23 (talk) 01:58, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What is her preferred full name at this time? This morning's Oscars press-release refers to her as "Salma Hayek Pinault" on first reference, and "Hayek Pinault" on subsequent references (e.g. as if with a nonbreaking space). This Wikipedia article doesn't suggest she uses that name though. One imagines these Academy press-releases are well-vetted by publicists so they have some credence, but I suppose I don't really know. jhawkinson (talk) 17:00, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just FYI she's Not half Lebanese[edit]

I know people quote the same old she's the "daughter of a Spanish mother and Lebanese father" reference which makes one believe her parents are fully those ethnicities. But as Mexicans that's highly doubtful. Her parents are from Veracruz, which is where my mom says the "negritos" are from. Salma is technically 1/4 Lebanese, her father is 1/2 lebanese 1/2 mexican, see the pic he's the shortest one among the other 3 mexican men pictured here according to the article his father met and marry his mom in Agua Dulce, Veracruz, meaning she was a Mexican. As for Salma's "Spanish" mother who's from Veracruz she could most likely be another Sinforosa Amador. So don't be surprise if a DNA test says she has Indigenous_Amerindian_genetics#mtDNA or black see Veracruz#Demographics.--76.213.224.222 (talk) 20:31, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

More on dual citizenship[edit]

Contrary to popular belief, it is possible for a person to become a naturalized United States citizen and yet not lose the nationality or citizenship status with the country of birth -- the citizenship that the individual had immediately before the naturalization. U.S. law does require that the individual take an oath to renounce all allegiance to any foreign state, etc., but this in and of itself does not necessarily remove the "prior" citizenship status.

From the U.S. State Department:

A U.S. national may acquire foreign nationality by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. national may not lose the nationality of the country of birth. U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another nationality does not risk losing U.S. nationality. However, a person who acquires a foreign nationality by applying for it may lose U.S. nationality. In order to lose U.S. nationality, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign nationality voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. nationality.

--from Bureau of Consular Affairs, U.S. State Dep't, at [1] (bolding added).

The question is: Does the article currently address her citizenship status adequately? Famspear (talk) 01:50, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the oath that an individual must take to become a naturalized U.S. citizen:

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

--(bolding added).

This oath is required by law. Reading the words in bold print, one would tend to assume that the effect of taking this oath and becoming a U.S. citizen would be to remove all citizenship that the individual had with any foreign country before that oath was taken. It seems like a common sense assumption.

If one made that assumption, one would be wrong.

Whether the legal effect of taking that oath would be to remove the "older" citizenship status is generally a function of the law of the country in which the older status is held. Famspear (talk) 02:00, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2015[edit]

This wiki ignores the fact that Salma Hayek is Lebanese. Her last name is Lebanese too. For Reference: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/27/us-lebanon-film-hayek-idUSKBN0NI17O20150427 http://www.latintimes.com/salma-hayek-heritage-actress-says-shes-not-mexican-311972 96.22.179.19 (talk) 02:17, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done She says her grandfather is Lebanese, not that she herself has Lebanese nationality or citizenship. The infobox and article intro report her nationality, not ancestry. The references support Mexican and American only. The fact that her grandfather is Lebanese is sufficiently covered in the article as it stands now. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:13, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2015[edit]

Under the "Early Life" section, it states that her name Salma is an Arabic word for "peace" or "calm". That is NOT true. Salma means "safe", derived from Arabic (salima) "to be safe". 2605:A000:C105:6F00:3528:44BC:7F65:B86F (talk) 23:02, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done source currently cited looks a bit iffy to me, so if anyone finds anything better, feel free to change further Cannolis (talk) 05:57, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Citizen of Lebanon?[edit]

There has been a recent rash of edits claiming that she holds Lebanese citizenship. Is there any source that supports that contention? Does Lebanon impose citizenship on the grand-children of its emigrants, her grandfather in this case? Need references for all that, if true. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:31, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This edit added Lebanese citizenship with a reference and this edit removed the info as not being from a reliable source. From my reading of the reference it looks like the citizenship granted was honorary only as the article itself stated that the legal requirements had not been met. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:55, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ADHD, Dyslexia and learning English[edit]

So, I followed the cites given, and they didn't support a claim for ADHD at all. They seem to point at a diagnosis of dyslexia in high school, but its not clear what that means (dyslexia used loosely and sometimes wrongly). There's two sources, one from WebMD interview and one from O Magazine interview. Strangely, they have different takes on the impact of dyslexia on her. The O interview suggests that dyslexia made it hard for her to learn English, but the WebMD gives the impression it was no issue. Generally speaking, dyslexia is not a barrier to learning a second language. The wiki article did give the impression that dyslexia was the reason she didn't learn English earlier. I've reworded to make it more objectively supported by the sources. There is some ambiguity in the sources, so I'll leave them here in case a keener mind might be able to make sense. http://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/salma-hayek-mom-on-a-mission?page=4 http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/Oprah-Interviews-Actress-and-Producer-Salma-Hayek There's also a Harper's Bazaar UK interview (can't find the original) that's been quoted online as her saying "I have an accent, am dyslexic, short and chubby", so it seems that she happily identifies herself as dyslexic. 60.240.207.146 (talk) 07:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@60.240.207.146: I just fleshed out the WebMD citation with the quotation. I've also removed the ADHD/Ritalin claim completely, because I couldn't find any sources either, except passing mentions in lists on the web that show no sources of their own (and that bare listing in the cited book, which also had no apparent source). --Closeapple (talk) 03:33, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The meaning of nationality[edit]

A new editor seems to be confused about what the term "nationality" means.

A person who is born in Mexico who later becomes a citizen of the United States of America (USA) through the legal process of naturalization has the status of nationality with respect to the USA. The fact that the person was born in Mexico does make her "not have" USA nationality. Here is the definition:

nationality (noun): "the status of belonging to a particular nation by birth or naturalization ". Webster’s New World Dictionary of the American Language, p. 946, World Publishing Co., Inc. (2nd Coll. Ed. 1978).

If Salma Hayek has become a citizen of the United States of America, then her nationality is properly described as being of the United States of America, whether she was born in Mexico or not. Famspear (talk) 20:16, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

PS: The law in the United States of America on obtaining nationality through the process of naturalization is entitled "Nationality Through Naturalization" and is found at title 8, United States Code, chapter 12, subchapter III, part II, sections 1421 though 1458. Yours, Famspear (talk) 20:29, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 7 December 2016[edit]

Please remove "and ADHD" from the sentence "In school, she was diagnosed with dyslexia and ADHD." because it is poorly sourced (mentioned in passing). User Pol9 has already been informed, that he may only insert such kind of claims with "ironclad sourcing". Perhaps someone could adress this matter again on his TP too. --212.95.7.106 (talk) 14:45, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Reliable source supports claim. -- Dane talk 04:42, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Done I removed it.[2] See BLP noticeboard discussion (now archived). —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 07:11, 9 December 2016 (UTC) (updated 06:50, 12 December 2016 (UTC))[reply]

Readded. No reason to remove it as it is properly sourced as already argued BLP noticeboard. Diakfan (talk) 12:04, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it. Claim of medical diagnosis is not verifiable in source (mention in passing). --212.95.7.11 (talk) 13:26, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Dane, who has rollback rights on Wikipedia, confirmed the source is reliable. Please do not use this argument again. Also, no one found BLP issues about this on the noticeboard. Diakfan (talk) 13:28, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Diakfan (talk · contribs): I don't know what noticeboard you're talking about, but Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive248#Selma Hayek seems at least evenly divided, and resulted in removal of the ADHD claim. User:Dane's argument on the noticeboard was not quite accurate about ADDitude Magazine or Latina.com: Both of those sources start out at the top by lumping ADD, ADHD, and dyslexia into the same category of "learning disability" and then citing Salma Hayek as having dyslexia, not ADD or ADHD. --Closeapple (talk) 16:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This came up originally at #ADHD, Dyslexia and learning English above. There are multiple problems:

  • WP:CONTEXTMATTERS. Sources that are generally reliable can be not reliable enough depending on the context and information. The Irish Times may usually be reliable, but may not be in this case: Particularly personal details of a person's life need particularly good sourcing, and it's unclear how or if the Irish Times verified this information, or whether it's gossip added as background filler later from sources that say it in passing because some other source said it in passing or put it in a listicle without sources.
  • One of the biggest indications that she doesn't have ADHD is her own omission in interviews. There are lots of sources for Salma Hayek saying openly that she has dyslexia, and listing what she felt were her negative attributes she overcame; yet she doesn't say ADHD in any of them. If she believes she has ADHD in addition to dyslexia, why didn't she mention it in all those times she mentioned dyslexia, or at any other time? Take this quote from the WebMD source in the article: "I’m really a fast learner. I always was, which is maybe why in high school they didn’t realize I had dyslexia. I skipped years without studying too much" ... "[The dyslexia] doesn’t bother me now. Some people read really fast, but you’ll ask them questions about the script and they’ll forget. I take a long time to read a script, but I read it only once." Does that sound like someone with ADHD or even someone who thinks they have ADHD?
  • Even if it were true, it's also an WP:UNDUE issue, particularly when the subject doesn't consider it even worth mentioning; Wikipedia is not for digging up affinity groups to list so that someone else can feel they have a connection with a celebrity.

This is a WP:BLP issue: It's a psychological claim about a living person that can't be traced back to the person or anyone else who is reliable for declaring a specific person to have ADHD. There should be more than one verifiable, reliable source for a medical claim. When there's substantial reasonable doubt about whether it's verifiable or reliable, it should not be in the article; this is particularly true with living people. --Closeapple (talk) 16:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1st argument : Irish time and other sources of this caliber very facts. Mentions in passing have prefixes. For instance, they would say "who apparently has ADHD" if it wasn't verified. They specify a diagnosis without any prefix, and it is a reliable source,so it is clearly verified. 2nd argument : Pure fallacy. This is your interpretation of a quote without context. Many people with ADHD have good memories. 3rd argument : Not more undue than her dyslexia in this paragraph.

Diakfan (talk) 22:06, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  1. This is by no means an established fact. Medical claims need strong sources.
  2. Closeapple allowed a closer examination by asking some questions.
  3. Hayek made her dyslexia public by herself, but there is no interview about her allegedly ADHD. --46.125.250.114 (talk) 14:00, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear Phrasing[edit]

Under Director, producer and actress: Hayek played the wife of Adam Sandler's character in the buddy comedy Grown Ups, which also co-starred Chris Rock and Kevin James.[34] At his insistence, Hayek co-starred with Antonio Banderas in the Shrek spin-off film Puss in Boots as the voice of the character Kitty Softpaws, who serves as Puss's female counterpart and love interest.[35]

Link [35] is a link straight to the IMBD page without saying who pressured her to join the film Puss in Boots. Tibbs runner (talk) 22:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Link citing music video[edit]

Correct title: Link for video fandango.com/movie-news/cine-latino-jada-pinkett-smith-gets-naked-for-salma-hayek-rosario-dawsons-sin-city-news-and-more-722592 Thatwasreal (talk) 15:14, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Video[edit]

Would someone set up a poll? The video in question is three words and capitalized. Flight Time is disputing that even though the link (number 41) is furnished. Thatwasreal (talk) 15:31, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:FOREIGNTITLE applies here. It is a modern work so should follow capitalization rules for Spanish titles. If it were historic we would use common English usage. The references are English and use English capitalization rules. Is there a source for the title in a Spanish publication? Should be wrapped in a {{Lang}} tag to emphasize it is a Spanish language title if that is what is being used. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:47, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's a cut and dried topic here. Links are easily found with all three words capitalized. Not everything needs to be consensus or settled by polls. I did this because of the intransigent nature of the user.Thatwasreal (talk) 15:50, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
According to the searches I made, the original version is correct, not your changes. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:52, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For additional context this indicates that common usage for this in Spanish is initial caps on all words. See Nada Se Compara Contigo as an example. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:53, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for pointing that out. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All anyone has to do is look at your editing history. You bring up this sort of thing fairly often. I posted a link, did you read it? I can list other links. FYI Se is translated as It's. Grammatically the filmmakers should not have even used the word It's. It is a pretty certain bet that they did it for effect. Will you admit you were incorrect when you fail to win at this little thing you have going now?Thatwasreal (talk) 15:57, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Do you read anything ? I just did, calm the hell down. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:04, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No need for the personal attacks. The issue is more complex than using what English language sources say. It appears all caps follows Spanish usage in this case too. That should be sufficient here. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:06, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality context in lead sentence[edit]

Hayek had a significant and notable acting career while living and residing in Mexico. Hayek also has a significant and notable acting career while living and residing in the US. She is naturalized as a US citizen and retains her Mexican citizenship by birth. There is a conflict on how to summarize that in the intro sentence of the article. Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography § Opening paragraph and § Context we list nationality or location where the subject became notable and don't list ethnicity or previous nationalities if not related to why notable. If Hayek were just born in Mexico and moved to and became notable while in the US we would just list her as an American actress and not mention Mexico at all in the intro sentence. However, she was notable as a Mexican actress so that needs to be mentioned in the intro along with being a notable American actress per the MOS.

The conflict is on how to describe that. Saying she is a Mexican and American actress (or equally an American and Mexican actress) makes it unambiguously clear that she is both a Mexican actress and and an American actress. Both being equally important to her notability. Saying she is a Mexican-American actress masks the importance of her Mexican acting career by describing her as just an American actress with Mexican ancestry or birth. Mexican-American, as the article at the link makes clear, basically means an American with any sort of ancestry link to Mexico either by birth or ancestral lineage. It includes dual-nationals. It doesn't make clear what that link it - it is ambiguous. Describing her as a Mexican-American actress, while it is a true statement, is also misleading to the readers as it fails to call out the importance of her Mexican acting career. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:58, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Are there any reliable sources that use "Mexican and American"? All the ones I can find, inside and outside the US, refer to her as "Mexican-American": Reuters, Britannica, BBC, ABC Australia, Irish Times, Newsweek, Fox, Chicago Tribune (One of the best known Mexican-Americans, actress Salma Hayek, was born in Mexico, pursued a career in Hollywood and became a U.S. citizen. But her ethnic identity is more complex: Her father was a Lebanese immigrant, and the name Salma is Arabic for "peaceful" or "safe." in an article titled "Mexican-Americans"). We wouldn't say "Lebanese-Mexican and American", would we? :-) Leviv ich 16:56, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We are talking about Wikipedia MOS not how other publications' MOS choose to describe her or what those publications think is important about her. Other sources see her Mexican career as unimportant and only see a Mexican-American actress who only did notable things after moving to the US. We have well-referenced content in this article showing that she did do notable activities in Mexico and we point them out. She has no notable activities in Lebanon and no indication she has citizenship there so would not be described as a Lebanese actress. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:12, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For a similar situation for a dual-national notable in both see Charlize Theron and the related RfC discussion in the archives. Using and is grammatically correct particularly when other formulations are ambiguous. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

After watching a movie, I noticed that one of the main characters name's was Salma Hayek. Both of which are Arabic names, interested in what her nationality is, I researched it on Wikipedia. To my astonishment, there was no mention of her having any Arabic origins. After looking further into it, she mentions in an interview that she's Lebanese. The fact that she views herself as being Lebanese, and the fact that her father is Lebanese and she visits the country often, along with the fact that her names both first and last are of Arabic origin, suggest that the articles on her wikipage should reflect this information, or at least make some mention of it. It's mind boggling how this information has been completely omitted despite there being less important information about Salma Hayeks professional and personal life. This could've been added in a section that states her parents names and nationalities, or in the section about her personal life. I request that changes be made to this page in order to have this information inserted. Failure to do so, would be a disservice to wiki users and Salma Hayek. Moeboutari (talk) 14:00, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you read the article you will find it is appropriately covered in the article in the early Life section. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:08, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The 'See also' tab within the article should be removed[edit]

In my opinion, the 'See also' tab within the article should be removed as in my opinion it is pointless having a tab with no links in it. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 14:31, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Moved portalbar to external links section and deleted empty section. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

“Her breakthrough role...”[edit]

The article begins “Her breakthrough role was...” Frida (2002). Not true. Her “breakthrough role was in Desperado (1995). By the time 2002 came around Selma was a house hold name. The role of “Frida” may have won her acclaim and accolades but that doesn’t make it “breakthrough”. “Breakthrough” implies more of becoming a known entity. By 2002, she was in Desperado, From Dusk Till Dawn, Fools Rush In, Dogma, etc. etc. Selma was well broken in by the time 2002’s “Frida” came along. McGrupp10799 (talk) 06:43, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

isnt she lebanese also???[edit]

I couldve sworn she was lebanese, if so someone please add this! thanks! Georgie628 (talk) 00:36, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is no indication or sources used in the article that she picked up Lebanese citizenship from her father. She was born in Mexico, naturalized as a US citizen. We can support dual national, not three nationalities. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can I just say Salma is 55?[edit]

I knew that she is 55. Whoever created this, can someone edit this please and tell she is 55? Temperance Cook (talk) 14:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Temperance Cook: Do you have a reference that her birthdate of September 2, 1966 as listed in the article is wrong? Does that reference show another date? Otherwise the calculated age based on her listed birth date shown in this article will be updated to 55 on September 2 of this year. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:33, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2021[edit]

Salma has very ticklish feet, she mentioned it in a tv interview. Aronchen92 (talk) 19:48, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:03, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mexican and American.. ?[edit]

What is going on with the lede here, a Mexican and American actress? ChicagoWikiEditor (talk) 00:52, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2021[edit]

Change first word, second paragraph of intro from "Hayek's" to "Hayek." TillerSandy (talk) 16:48, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 17:12, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2022[edit]

Salma confirmed that her feet are very ticklish 92.40.172.234 (talk) 00:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:19, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hayek Jiménez[edit]

Why was her second family name Jiménez deleted? Ca. 2023-02-02. There's dtill a footnote explaining the customary Spanish dual surname, but the second family name is no longer there. 172.58.223.159 (talk) 04:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note should be at the top of the page, not inline. Trillfendi (talk) 09:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I came here after noticing that the article for Puss in Boots: The Last Wish consistently references her as "Salma Hayek Pinault". It's what the credits for the film also list her as. Is that a recent choice she made, to add her husband's name? They've been married for 15 years and she always used Salma Hayek professionally. All the primary sources about the film omit the Pinault surname. This article too doesn't seem to have been updated in that regard. Kumagoro-42 (talk) 21:40, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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