Talk:Serious Sam: Next Encounter
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Serious Sam: Next Encounter has been listed as one of the Video games good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. Review: November 11, 2020. (Reviewed version). |
A fact from Serious Sam: Next Encounter appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 December 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Reviewer: Alexandra IDV (talk · contribs) 00:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
I'll review this one as well - I hope to have it done within a day or two.--AlexandraIDV 00:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Alexandra IDV, thanks in advance for this. One quick note: The printed Game Informer source is not in the Internet Archive but Climax produced a 1:1 text copy here. I also have a scan of the page that I can send you if you need it. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 12:01, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Infobox
- Seems fine. I wonder what's up with the lead designer bit, but if there isn't any source covering that I guess there isn't much we can do.
Lead
- If you want to keep the "positive atmosphere" bit in the lead, make sure that the opinion is attributed to Barlow and not presented as an objective fact in Wikipedia's voice
Gameplay
Next Encounter contains twelve weapons, among them ten ranged weapons and a chainsaw for melee.
So what is the twelfth weapon?amouns
"amounts".- Unless multiplayer modes feature characters other than Sam, I would suggest just saying "Sam" rather than "the player character" after he's been introduced; if they on the other hand do feature other characters, I would be explicit about that and consistently use "the player character"
Plot
when the scientist suddenly announces
- "suddenly" is a filler word that rarely adds anything. If you mean to say that it takes someone by surprise, and that that is important, say so instead.- Link Cicero
- It feels like overlinking to link "spanking"
- Sirian/Sirians are not explained
- The plot summary seems to end a bit abruptly. I'm assuming this is something like a sequel hook (in which case that's fine), but wanted to check.
- Does the minion have a name?
Development and release
Employees help up morale through playtesting
- seems like an issue with tense and/or missing words
Reception
- Would recommend cutting the scores from the prose, as there isn't a massive score difference between the two versions that we would want to illustrate, and we already have a review table
Jeff Shirley of Nintendo World Report said that the textures were enhanced through bump mapping.
- I think we should be clearer that NWR appreciates the bump mapping and texture work - just saying that the textures are enhanced with bump maps almost comes off as factually describing how the game was developed.
References
- Seems fine
External links
- The official website does not load for me - I only see copyright information and links to the websites for the developer, the ESRB, Nintendo, and PlayStation. Unless you can find a working replacement, it might be worth considering removing the link.
Images
- Images and fair use rationales seem fine
- Would recommend taking the opportunity to use the cover art to visually identify Sam with a caption
Looks good! I will put this on hold for the standard seven days - @ me when you have addressed the above, or if you have any questions. Thank you, --AlexandraIDV 22:10, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Alexandra IDV: Thanks again. I did some fixes and left two questions above. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 08:50, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Did you know nomination[edit]
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:36, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- ... that the video game Serious Sam: Next Encounter was inspired by GoldenEye 007, Perfect Dark, Smash TV, and Ikari Warriors? Source: The Making of ... Serious Sam (corresponds to ref #2)
- ALT1:... that the "Super Combo" system in Serious Sam: Next Encounter was introduced late in development and "completely changed the game"? Source: same as ALT0
- ALT2:... that the developers of the video game Serious Sam: Next Encounter kept up morale by sharing their highscores via internal message boards? Source: same as ALT0
Improved to Good Article status by IceWelder (talk). Self-nominated at 20:52, 11 November 2020 (UTC).
- Recently promoted to GA status (neutral, no copyright issues), QPQ done, hooks are good and are cited. I prefer for ALT2, as it appeals to a broader audience. Le Panini Talk 14:18, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Le Panini: if you want ALT2, you have to make sure it has an inline cite in the article per WP:DYK#Cited hook. Yoninah (talk) 18:54, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yoninah, the in-line source is ref #2. It appears after a couple of sentences that all pertain to the same source, since its repeated use on subsequent sentences is unnecessary. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 19:03, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- @IceWelder: well, I've gotta follow the rules. Could you point out the sentence in the source that verifies ALT2? I'm having trouble locating it. Yoninah (talk) 19:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yoninah, of the source sentence, "Employees kept up morale through playtesting" from page 108:
The Next Encounter team was around 20-strong, and the atmosphere was pretty good [...]," recalls Barlow. "That's the advantage of making a game like [Serious] Sam - if we hadn't have had the option to take a five-minute break and shoot a few hundred mutants in the head, it would have been a different story."
- "... and frequently shared high scores on internal message boards." from page 110:
"It completely changed the game," he remembers. "People stopped playing the game like GoldenEye and started playing it like Serious Sam - running and gunning, trying to kill as much as possible as quickly as possible, posting up best times and scores on the office message boards. It was really cool to see that working pretty much as planned the second it went in."
- Regards, IceWelder [✉] 19:28, 21 November 2020 (UTC)