Talk:Sir John Ellerman, 1st Baronet

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Thomas Wilson Sons & Co.[edit]

I think this is not an entirley fair statement, the compnay was still a very successful outfit, especially as a family business, when Ellerman bought it. It was heading for harder times, but if not for the personnel troubles it probabaly would not have been sold to Ellerman anyway. A link to Sowald Sanderson may be worthwhile as well, as his relationship with Ellerman is indicitive of the sort of person Ellerman was and how he ran his business. The current O.S. article is very small but is in progress for exapansion. El Scorcho 14:09, 27 July 2006 (UST)

I think the point in the source is the family was at dispute with itself, a common fate of family companies by the third generation, not that it was in financial difficulties, and you have misinterpreted my precis of this. However, as this matter is peripheral to Ellerman's biography, I have removed both sides of the coin. The fate of the company should be discussed in its own article. Hawkestone 11:27, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/humberside/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8207000/8207903.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.41.91 (talk) 12:01, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Author's Point Of View & Referencing[edit]

The opening statement of this article is a classic example of multiple POV.
An article of this length and importance needs many more inline references.
Some references do not contain relevant material.
With these issues it cannot possibly be rated a 'B' class article.--Kudpung (talk) 10:41, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]