Talk:Wario

Creation

The cited webpage claiming that Wario was created by Gunpei Yokoi is dead. It is in the Internet Archive, though. However, is an article telling about Wario's creation and not even mentioning the designer (Hiroji Kiyotake) reliable at all? Also, from the same author came the character biography of Donkey Kong falsely claiming "It would have Donkey Kong capturing a princess"... which makes me question the reliability of it even more. I mean, the creator's name is one of the most important facts about a fictional character, and for this we shouldn't cite an article that looks like to come from a fansite. There are several unofficial sites (fansites, blogs, wikis, forums) naming Gunpei Yokoi as Wario's creator, but that's it. Any opinions? --Grandy02 (talk) 18:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I made a small change in the first paragraph concerning the following sentences. "Although Spike bears a slight resemblance, Wario was not to receive his true debut until 1992. The first named appearance of the character occurred in the 1992 game Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins where he was designed by game artist Hiroji Kiyotake, who was also responsible for designing Samus Aran of Metroid.[2]" I removes "the 1992 game" from before Super Mario Land 2 since it was stated in the previous sentence that the character made his first appearance in 1992. Having the reference to 1992 in the second sentence is thus redundant. Hobbes543 (talk) 22:48, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

In Universe descriptions

Read the descriptions of Warioware and felt it was very much "in universe". At a minimum I think it would be far better to say *first* that the cartridge included gyro/tilt sensor and then after that if it is really relevant or notable to detail the in game story it but I'm asking here should the in game story really be included at all? -- Horkana (talk) 18:17, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Appearences

I think you should be able to reference most of that section with the references in List of Wario video games. It would greatly improve this article. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 17:34, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

In the Wario Land subsection, the part about Wario Land 4 seems poorly worded and the tenses change. The current sentence is "The following year, the sequel Wario Land 4 debuted on the Game Boy Advance, incorporating Wario's ability to become burnt or flattened, but reintroducing the ability to become damaged from standard attacks.[9]" I think the sentence should be reworded as "The following year, the sequel Wario Land 4 debuted on the Game Boy Advance, which incorporated Wario's ability to become burnt or flattened and reintroduced the ability to become damaged by standard attacks.[9]" Hobbes543 (talk) 23:22, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

brothers?

I read somewhere, ages ago, that Mario, Luigi and Wario are brothers, all three of them, is there any proof about this? Luke Farrelly-Spain (talk) 20:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I am a Mario fan, and I know that as a kid, Mario bullied Wario and Wario wanted revenge. I know that they are not brothers, but I am unsure whether Waluigi is Wario's brother. MarioFyreFlower (talk) 20:49, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Uhh...new voice actor???

Okay, so someone posted here, as well as at Waluigi, that Mike Judge has replaced Charles Martinet as Wario's voice actor...so I googled this and came up with nothing...is this someone's idea of a joke? Black Yoshi (talk) 20:49, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Wario & Dedede's similar role

There's many ways about the two characters is that Wario serves as the King Dedede to Mario's Kirby —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.56.139 (talk) 17:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

ANd this is relevant how?--109.153.42.90 (talk) 20:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Wario/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 16:50, 11 August 2011 (UTC) On hold.

Review summary

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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OVERALL: I am aware of the rough history this article has had with GAR and FAC and that the article has improved in the past years. However, the prose has too many issues remaining: vague sentences and improper grammar. MOS is not met either. Reference formatting must be done better. I believe I found an error in almost every sentence in the main body of the article.

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   Comments below for improvements.

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

   MOS:WTW, MOS:FICTION

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   Dead links + other. See below.

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   Possible omitted information.

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

   Possible use of informal terminology.

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   A final decision will be raised within a week (maximum). Until then, you are to fix all issues below. Feel free to ask questions.

Review comments

Lead

• "Wario (ワリオ) is a fictional character in Nintendo's Mario series. Designed by Hiroji Kiyotake, he is voiced by Charles Martinet, who also voices many other characters in the series." – That should only need one sentence.
• "W in his name being" – Don't use noun+ing on Wikipedia. It's discouraged.
• "Since the time he first appeared" → "Since his debut"

Concept and creation

• "he was not to receive his true debut until 1992" – This is confusing. I don't know if you're talking about the other character or are you talking about Mario. You have to re-word that.
• "where he was designed by Hiroji Kiyotake" – Who is Kiyotake? A game designer? Be specific.
• "for designing Samus Aran, another popular Nintendo character." – What series is Aran from?
• Link Super Mario Land
• "The name "Wario"" – In such cases, don't quote Wario, italicize instead. Then, to avoid confusion, you may use quotes.
• Again, you have to introduce Charles Martinet, like Kiyotake.
• "for Wario around 1993" Around 1993? If it was that year exactly, just say "in"; don't be vague.
• "which could either be good or evil." I don't understand this part. Are you saying you can interpret him as both?
• "think of anyone better" Re-word this to make it sound more neutral.
• Being stupid is a habit? Do you mean acting stupid at certain times, or are you trying to say something else (like his reputation)?
  • NUpdate: "particularly for frequently acting stupidly" That is really annoyign to read, there are three "-ly"s.

Wario Land series

• The majority of the games you talk about here don't specify when they were released.
• "Wario makes his first appearance" – You have to be consistent with the verb tense. You used past tense in the lead and Concept and creation sections when you spoke about his debut, but now you are using present tense.
• "first appearance as a villain" → "villainous debut"
• "Japan-only Mario & Wario" → "Japan-only puzzle title Mario & Wario"
• "Captain Syrup and her Brown Sugar Pirates." – Can you just briefly describe these characters in that sentence?
• "plays similarly, titled Virtual Boy Wario Land. It incorporates the ability" → "plays similarly, titled Virtual Boy Wario Land, incorporating the ability"
• "with the character Captain Syrup" → "in which Captain Syrup" – No need to introduce him as I ask you to do that earlier on and using "with" to join ideas is not a good practice.
• "The most recent release" – As of when?
• "It used a hand-drawn animation style, which required the artists to design many frames of animation for the characters" – Use present tense.
• "including more than 2,000 for Wario alone." → "including more than 2,000 frames required to design, for Wario alone."
  • NUpdate: "with Wario's design alone requiring" Noun+ing. Also, using "with" to connect ideas is discouraged.

WarioWare series

• "In 2003, the franchise" → "In 2003, the Wario franchise"
• "which featured the same microgames" → "featuring the same microgames"
• The sentence has no source.
• "involved Wario becoming" – Again, avoid noun+ing.
• "A sequel called WarioWare: Twisted! was released" – Put in some commas.
• "a tilt sensor that allowed" – Present tense.
• "A Nintendo DS sequel was later released titled WarioWare: Touched!" → "A Nintendo DS sequel, titled WarioWare: Touched!, was later released"
• "A Wii game was released titled WarioWare: Smooth Moves" – Again, move the "titled WarioWare: Smooth Moves" after "game".
• "which used the" – Present tense

Other appearences

• Avoid beginning multiple consecutive sentences with the same word. You do that with "He".
• "In Wario's Woods, Wario appears as the main antagonist who wanted to take over the woods." – When was it released? Please use present tense for fiction.
• "However he was soon defeated and chased out of the area by Toad." MOS:FICTION. First of all, this is being told in the wrong grammar tense. Second, it's being told in an in-universe perspective and should be told from the real-world perspective.
• "also featured in the video game" – What year?
• "Japanese original including" – Noun+ing.
• "appeared in almost every Mario sports game" – Vague sentence. How many out of how many games has he appeared in.
• "appeared in most installments" – Same here.
• "of the Mario Party series.^{[9][18][19][20]}" WP:CITEKILL. Combine the last three refs into one footnote. You know how to do that right?
• "including a story of Wario's past and his relationship with Mario, explaining Wario's rivalry with Mario." → "including a story of Wario's past and his rivalry with Mario."

Promotion and reception

• Expand the first and extremely short paragraph. Paragraphs should not have only one sentence.
• "Since his appearance in Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3, his first starring role, Wario has become a well-established mascot for Nintendo." – Cut as specified. You already said this in a previous section.
• "Nintendo Power listed Wario" – Nintendo Power should be written in italics. Describe what it is too; a magazine?
• If the word "wierdos" is taken from the magazine article, it should be quoted. Otherwise, don't use the word in an encyclopedic context.
• There's an accent in "doppelgänger".
• "and his farts" – "Farts" is an informal word and not appropriate for encyclopedic text unless it is from a quote. Use the proper term, if needed.
• "However, they state that they cannot help but like him. They also listed him as having one of the best mustaches."– Combine the two sentences.
• Best mustaches from the series or in general?
• "as opposed to Waluigi, who has received mostly negative reception." Explain the relevance of this addition or remove it.
• "Wario ranked 10th" → "Wario ranked tenth"
• "IGN ranked Wario 31st in its list of the "Top 100 Videogame Villains"." Also, put a quote after "list".
• "top 10 ugliest game characters" – Should this be capitalized/quoted? If not, then "top 10 ugliest game characters list" → "list of the ten ugliest game characters".
• "he is actually a "cool dude""
• ""A Parent's Guide to Nintendo Games: A Comprehensive Look at the Systems and the Games"" – Books are italicized, not quoted.
• ""Icons of Horror and the Supernatural: An Encyclopedia of Our Worst Nightmares, Volume 1"" – Same here.

References

• Ref [2]: Link IGN.
• Ref [3]: Redirects to Wario Land: Shake It!
  • N There are a few issues with this one. First of all, the title isn't "History of Wario". Second, how is the link relevant and how do you get the info from it?
• Ref [4]: The publisher is IGN. Do not link.
• Ref [10], [11], [13]–[17]: Wrong date format.
• Ref [13]–[16], [20]: Unlink GameSpot.
• Ref [19]: Link AceGamez
• Ref [26]–[27]: "Toyrc.com" → "ToyRC.com"
• Ref [28]: The publisher is IGN. Do not link.
• Ref [32]: Unlink GameDaily
• Ref [34]: The publisher is IGN. Do not link.
• Ref [35]–[36]: Page number?
• Many problematic links. Checklinks.

Another user fixed almost everything except the references. I'll run a checklinks and try and fix the references. --Nathan2055^{talk - review} 19:30, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll go talk to that user about some of the errors s/he hasn't addressed yet. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 20:37, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I cleaned up most of the prose issues listed above... what is left? And pointing out every sports game Wario appears is necessary? (it can get either crufty or hard to reference!) igordebraga ≠ 03:19, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

I am talking about the number of games, not actually listing the titles. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 14:08, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, the checklinks brings back five dead links. Worse, there is no Wayback Machine backup for any of those links. I think we will have to remove them. --Nathan2055^{talk - review} 20:25, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

...and remove the information from the article that cites those links. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 21:15, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Removed the dead GameDaily articles, added another in its place. igordebraga ≠ 03:02, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Checklinks reveals five and nine are also dead. Both link to Kombo.com. --Nathan2055^{talk - review} 03:05, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

You guys have to find archives or replacements or else the info will have to be removed. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 03:15, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

The Kombo "History of Wario" articles can be found at "Features" page. — 13:50, 24 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.35.209.129 (talk)

One was already archived, fixed the other one. igordebraga ≠ 13:50, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I'll go through everything to make sure this article is ready for GA. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 13:51, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I fixed a few of the minor grammatical errors that weren't addressed. Just hoping the article gets GA! Sephiroth⁸⁷⁸ | Talk 20:01, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I removed the final challenged content in "Promotion and reception". I think it's ready for a final review. --Nathan2055^{talk - review} 23:47, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

did you run checklinks by chance? Sephiroth⁸⁷⁸ | Talk 00:42, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

• support Btw of the removal of that very short paragraph :D Sephiroth⁸⁷⁸ | Talk 00:45, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Promoted. All issues have been fixed. Better late then never, but then again, I can't wait for the article to become FA and for Wikipedia to get the donation that was promised. Good work guys (gender-neutral). —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 02:41, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for your help and support! Let's get FA on this one, Wikimedia could use another fifty bucks! --Nathan2055^{talk - review} 02:59, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

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Shirtless? Really?

Is the whole bit about him being shirtless in the Promotion section a joke or what? It really looks like some kid just adding info for shizz and giggles. Is the consensus that this belongs or should it be removed? Not trying to start an edit war so figured take it to TALK.Gamekeeper7 (talk) 15:22, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

"Hiroji Kiyotake" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Hiroji Kiyotake. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Nohomersryan (talk) 02:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Request to semi-protect this page.

Not only are there a much greater amount of Wario memes that some people might use to vandalize this page, but since all the other major Mario characters got their pages semi-protected, I think it'd also be more consistent to add Wario to that list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.43.209.25 (talk) 04:02, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

I agree, this page needs to be semi-protected. Justanot (talk) 15:34, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

What is wario’s purpose?

This needs much more info on his purpose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B11C:323B:456C:EC4E:756F:78B0 (talk) 12:45, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Popular culture section

Is SNL really the only notable reference to Wario in popular culture? I'd assume he's been significantly referenced in other notable creations. See the Wario Fandom Wiki for some examples, particularly South Park and MAD. TheGEICOgecko (talk) 23:39, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

I went ahead and added the information I asked about above. Critique as you see fit.TheGEICOgecko (talk) 02:14, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism

When looking at the revisions, I've seen a bit of vandalism. Thoughts? Justanot (talk) 15:28, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

The Onion in Further reading?

I noticed that one of the pieces in Further reading comes from The Onion. While the inclusion of The Onion in Wario's article is so... Wario, I'm not sure if it belongs on Wikipedia, though one may argue that the inclusion of a satire website is fine for a Further reading section. Thoughts? LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contribs)} 04:40, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Upcoming GAR

@Nathan2055 @Cukie Gherkin @Glades12 @Igordebraga pinging top 4 authors. GAR will start soon. Given the popularity of this character, there are a lot of issues. Concept and design section contains failed verification/OR, since most of it were badly sourced and should be expanded more sicne there are still plenty of sources that wasn't used yet. There are also several unsourced claims at the Appearances section, and lastly the Reception section needs to be rewritten a bit (especially the listicles at last paragraph about Smash Bros.) and should be expanded more with existing sources after searching it on google. Thank you! GreenishPickle! (🔔) 01:54, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for doing this first. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:56, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

I have expanded and resolved most of the issues, thus avoiding GAR. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 12:33, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Kevin Afghani

Kevin Afghani is listed as a voice actor for Wario on this page. Is there a source for Kevin Afghani voicing Wario? 2600:387:F:7114:0:0:0:4 (talk) 17:58, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

No source; the press releases about Afghani mention Mario and Luigi only. I will remove. Jip Orlando (talk) 18:14, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

"Evil Mario" listed at Redirects for discussion

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