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Changes[edit]

RE: this: "In November, they released I'm Your Man which went straight to #1 in the UK charts.". It didn't - it had a week at No.2 before it went to No.1 if I remember rightly. Please change this if you like. Jim Mason.

Young Guns was the first hit single and Wham Rap the second single. I will change the text. You can do it now. If you don't do it, I will do it sooner or later. Crimson 19:29, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization[edit]

Throughout the article, the name is shown capitalied, as WHAM!, but the article is at Wham!. Should it be moved? (I'll move it myself if no one objects). Dylan 15:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is the band's name even capitalized in such a fashion? I've always known it to be "Wham!". --Matharvest 07:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A similar discussion made with the German group Neu!, while it was often written in capitals as NEU!, it's use was a symbol. But it was really Neu! I agree that it should be changed back. Chadwholovedme 13:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Referring to artists[edit]

The artists should be referred to as "Ridgeley" and "Michael" not as "Andrew" and "George." Lmr5069 18:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

Is Wham! gay?

Only George Michael.

Did George Michael fancy Andrew Ridgely? --Timtak 05:35, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is the Pope! a Catholic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.225.65.157 (talk) 17:52, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources/references[edit]

There seems to be a lot of unsourced material and speculation in lines like:

"George's father had just fired his son from the family's restaurant believing he overloaded the dinner plates" or "the contribution of Ridgeley as the group's image specialist and spokesman was crucial to the band's initial success"

Whoever added some of this more anecdotal info needs to source it, or it shouldn't be here. - AKeen 16:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to add sources (and that wasn't me who wrote it either) but I know that the second comment can be sourced to the George Michael documentary that came out in England two years ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.183.100.99 (talk • contribs)

The source http://www.jango.com/music/Wham+Holiday+/_full_bio?l=0 is used, but that page explicitly says that it's sourced from Wikipedia, so it seems to be a completely invalid (circular) source. 74.89.25.196 (talk) 00:05, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please write from a historical perspective[edit]

These pages are not intended to be the George Michael announcements service, and the tone of the last two sentences is approaching user confrontion, which I'm all for if placed on THIS page and not in the article itself. Please try to keep in mind that you're writing for the ages here (or hopefully you are intending to...). As such, notices with short-term intent do not serve the article itself and are perhaps mistreating the usage of the Wiki as intended by its creators. Thank you to all who respect others contributions and especially to those who constantly clean up after me, I appreciate it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.183.100.99 (talk) 06:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

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Question[edit]

'The record was not playlisted by BBC Radio 1 in the UK, partly because of the profanity in the Anti-Social Mix. Subsequently the reissued UK release replaced the controversial lines in the first verse "B1, B2, make a claim sign your name’s all you have to do" and the opening two phrases of the second verse citing "Mr. Average".'

why is the B1, B2 line controversial? 81.96.247.50 (talk) 23:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move request[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:22, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wham! → Wham – Stylisation of artist name, similar to Kesha or Korn, thus should be removed. --The Evil IP address (talk) 20:49, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The difference to Ke$ha or KoЯn is that the exclamation symbol (!) is mentioned as it is to express that, exclamation. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 04:12, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understood your point correctly. Would you mind explaining it more detailed? --The Evil IP address (talk) 15:41, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That the exclamation is supposed to be mentioned. Furthermore, there are many articles that have this format (and do not use your OSE arguments) such as Up! (1976 film) or Woo!. MOS:TM has nothing to do with symbols like ".", "," "¿?" or "¡!". Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 17:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The articles you cite are different in that they are articles about published works, which is a different thing than artist names. Furthermore, I'd be interested why punctuation doesn't apply to this guideline. In fact, I've seen supports here to remove trailing punctuation from such article titles (the article was moved to something different in the end, but still...) --The Evil IP address (talk) 16:55, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can answer that only from my perspective. The ya in "KoЯn" is a stylized r as User:Tbhotch notes below and is not normally used in English sources. Punctuation such as trailing periods/fullstops in melody. or moe. is easy enough to use but can confuse readers expecting a trailing period to end a sentence. (Will.i.am does not cause this problem but does have capitalization issues.) Use of a trailing exclamation mark, though unusual in running text, is not likely to cause a problem since exclamation marks are rarely used as punctuation in an encyclopedia (N.B. Yahoo!). If you are looking for absolute consistency derived from slavish adherence to stylistic orthodoxy, I can't offer that. I try to weigh each case by the standards of both fidelity to the name of the entity and to the needs of a reader of a general reference work. — AjaxSmack 02:12, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Everyone gives this subject as "Wham!" See Amazon, New York Times, Worldcat, and The Independent. Kauffner (talk) 13:34, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The same argumentation was opposed recently at Talk:Kesha#Move request. --The Evil IP address (talk) 15:41, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - And the diference is that you don't say "Kedollar signha" or "Koyan". Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 17:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- allmusic also gives "Kesha" and "Wham!". (Compare the first line of running text.) Although "Ke$ha" is official, it is such an odd spelling that most readers assume it is a stylization and look for her as "Kesha".[1] We don't have to resolve all the borderline cases. This subject is simply "Wham!" and is given that way by the RS across the board. Kauffner (talk) 02:56, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose (see comment above). — AjaxSmack 02:12, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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More Citation Neededs Needed[edit]

This article has nowhere near enough "citation needed" tags. Some of the sentences are still virtually readable; in fact one or two entire sentences have no "citation needed" punctuation at all. This is clearly unaccepatable. Please add more. For example "Wham were [citation needed] a popular[citation needed] beat combo[citation needed] in the early[early according to whom? discuss] 1980s[citation needed]". That kind of thing.82.71.30.178 (talk) 20:40, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

'Stand by Me: AIDS Day Benefit' concert, 1987[edit]

hi. in the 'Post-Wham! and George Michael's death' section, it should be mentioned that ridgeley performed w/michael on stage at this concert. here's a video of their doing 'everything she wants' there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGomJ02oWg&t=2m29s

and the imdb page for the televised event: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209348/

63.142.146.194 (talk) 20:53, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Incomplete sentence removal[edit]

The sentence on Michael's issue with the Wake Me Up video was incomplete. I've copied the fragment below. Hopefully the original editor - or someone else with knowledge on the original intent - could revisit this and add the info intended.

"although he said in an interview with UK TV host Jonathan^[1]"THX1136 (talk) 17:09, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Artist Profile - Wham! (Holiday) - Bio". Jango Radio. Retrieved 11 December 2015.

Genre[edit]

Wham! is considered a New Wave, as well as a Post-Disco and Dance-Pop band, I would like if someone could change this. FueledByMusic05. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FueledByMusic05 (talk • contribs) 21:02, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To add or change genres, you will need a reliable source for the change. - SummerPhD^v2.0 17:03, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semiprotected - change request[edit]

This article should have a reference to Whamageddon, but the article is semiprotected so I cannot add it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whamageddon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:999:1:C16C:E56F:DBCF:302A:6E36 (talk) 19:30, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Artist Profile - Wham! (Holiday) - Bio". Jango Radio. Retrieved 11 December 2015.

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